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In reply to the discussion: 2 months before his murder spree, Mateen signed his house over to his Brother-in-law [View all]oberliner
(58,724 posts)105. What do you mean by that?
Not being a bigot provides you with enough information to assert definitively that nothing about Islam caused the massacre?
President Obama recently said:
"We are still learning all the facts. This is an open investigation. Weve reached no definitive judgment on the precise motivations of the killer."
It seems strange that you have been able to make such a definitive statement when the facts are still being learned and the investigation is still open. Not to mention the fact that, presumably, there is a lot of information about the case that the public does not have access to.
I don't see how anyone can make any sort of definitive statement about what factors led to this shooting, nor what not being a bigot has to do with anything.
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2 months before his murder spree, Mateen signed his house over to his Brother-in-law [View all]
cali
Jun 2016
OP
Of course it was planned - this is to protect the property against civil suits.
Yo_Mama
Jun 2016
#13
His wife and family were in on it. I hope they get life in prison and live to a thousand
4139
Jun 2016
#4
A gun store so rattled by a customer they refuse to sell anything...damn straight!
countryjake
Jun 2016
#77
I've not heard a thing about Mateen's current wife vanishing & I have a tv ...
countryjake
Jun 2016
#80
The family is complicit and DUers have been falling for their bullshit due to anti-gay bias.
Bluenorthwest
Jun 2016
#6
I see it as throwing Gays under the bus to deflect from the fact the Guy was first and foremost a
King_David
Jun 2016
#23
You present his father as some sterling source of information but he was posting anti gay material
Bluenorthwest
Jun 2016
#24
The man you tout said this on Monday morning with 49 funerals being planned:
Bluenorthwest
Jun 2016
#83
You and you alone introduced Mateen's bigoted father into this thread and touted him:
Bluenorthwest
Jun 2016
#109
Heterosexism (aka straight privilege) and homophobia often go hand in had.
Behind the Aegis
Jun 2016
#64
Wife #1 said he was a batterer/control freak. Dollars to holes in donuts, wife #2 ...
Hekate
Jun 2016
#17
This mass murderer is unusal in that his father posted hateful crap about the minority his son
Bluenorthwest
Jun 2016
#26
It's the Islamic ideology that caused the massacre whether the killer was gay or not
Fumesucker
Jun 2016
#40
This is wingerishly bigoted, nothing about Islam caused the massacre... nothing
uponit7771
Jun 2016
#49
Tell it to someone who wouldn't be under a death sentence in some Islamic nations
Fumesucker
Jun 2016
#55
And yet neither you nor the others pitching defense for the family address the father's horrifying
Bluenorthwest
Jun 2016
#81
I also don't live on tv, I have work to do so I didn't see his fathers stupid statements... I've...
uponit7771
Jun 2016
#89
Then why single out Islam and not homogenize the statement? ALL religions have swaths
uponit7771
Jun 2016
#117
There's no middle ground in bigotry, its not progressive at all. The "middle ground" here is the...
uponit7771
Jun 2016
#119
I don't care what bigots and racist make up to justify their bigotry, nothing about Islam cause the
uponit7771
Jun 2016
#100
At least 7 countries execute LGBT, they are all Islamic countries and they say they kill us because
Bluenorthwest
Jun 2016
#111
So does Christianity in its perverted forms, no need to single out Islam. and thanks
uponit7771
Jun 2016
#118
Or, ensuring that the family's finances couldn't be affected after his attack ...
countryjake
Jun 2016
#38
the entire family is fucked up , the son will grow up to learn his parents i did not love him
JI7
Jun 2016
#41
The father is a piece of work, the wife I don't know... sounds like she didn't know shit the way the
uponit7771
Jun 2016
#48
People are looking for a boogyman and going after the wife based off LEO leaks. I don't take them
uponit7771
Jun 2016
#46
Mateen murdered 49 people, there is no 'looking for a boogyman' in that, he was a monster and
Bluenorthwest
Jun 2016
#86
I'm talking about his wife, blaming her for his actions and trying to peg her with anything in ...
uponit7771
Jun 2016
#88
Deed was prepared by an estate attorney as well. He still has his condo, though.
flvegan
Jun 2016
#98
Sure had lots of real estate for a randomly employed 'security guard'. Owned homes, took regular
Bluenorthwest
Jun 2016
#114