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164. Look. I AM ANGRY. There's a horrible tragedy in a community I care deeply about and what happens?

Fri Jun 17, 2016, 01:09 PM

Jun 2016

All the gun fucks think it's a fine time to post their gun porn and their masturbatory fantasies about shooting the imaginary bad guys that rattle around in their empty little heads.

Piss on guns. Piss on gun fuckery. Piss on the NRA. Piss on all their allies and enablers. Piss on the second amendment, it's an ugly relic of the 18th century, just as slavery was.

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Remington does in fact sell, quite literally "military-issue weapons of war" to civilians. (GUN PIC) [View all] sir pball Jun 2016 OP

This is going to be a semi-drive-by.. sir pball Jun 2016 #1

Congrats, chef! aikoaiko Jun 2016 #8

Congratulations!!! Odin2005 Jun 2016 #52

Congratulations. Buddy of mine was a sous chef at a big oe in Baton Rouge... Eleanors38 Jun 2016 #57

Thanks guys! sir pball Jun 2016 #133

People who spend $11,000 on a rifle don't usually shoot up schools with them. dilby Jun 2016 #2

So why the persistent calls for bans on .50s? sir pball Jun 2016 #5

Probably because the bullet from one can travel over four miles jmowreader Jun 2016 #6

Ballistically, yeah. sir pball Jun 2016 #7

I shot a bullet into the air... malthaussen Jun 2016 #155

A .338 RUM is my Alaskan rifle Drahthaardogs Jun 2016 #13

Outshoot, not outperform. sir pball Jun 2016 #131

Contollers are compelled to control...nt jonno99 Jun 2016 #45

I have no issue with .50 cal rifle, they weigh 30 lbs and cost an insane amount of money. dilby Jun 2016 #90

This message was self-deleted by its author Mosby Jun 2016 #47

I would guess he paid with a credit card! The_Casual_Observer Jun 2016 #83

Quite possibly. Lord Magus Jun 2016 #125

Still a fraction of the price on a rifle that is not designed for mass casualties. dilby Jun 2016 #91

a song to guns: aint no corpse pile high enough to keep me from getting to you (sorry Diana) nt msongs Jun 2016 #3

For the record, I love me some guns but they're power and demand great responsibility. sir pball Jun 2016 #4

+1 Odin2005 Jun 2016 #16

I get nothing but positive responses for this... fleabiscuit Jun 2016 #86

Um...well, how about German gun laws instead? sir pball Jun 2016 #132

When ever you say never to high technology it comes back to haunt you. ~ Dean Kamen fleabiscuit Jun 2016 #175

Aaaaaaaaaand there it is. linuxman Jun 2016 #9

The problem is that a lot of urban liberals don't know much about guns. Odin2005 Jun 2016 #20

Speaking of ignorant: jonno99 Jun 2016 #29

Wow DashOneBravo Jun 2016 #38

Wow, what an insult to vets, rape survivors, and others with actual PTSD. Odin2005 Jun 2016 #50

Strange. I fired an AK-47 several times. Hardly any kick. Complete destruction... Eleanors38 Jun 2016 #63

That's what I call good, clean fun. jonno99 Jun 2016 #78

The can stood right there, thought I had missed. Hit it 4 times. Eleanors38 Jun 2016 #87

I understand the kick is more brutal on full rock and roll. malthaussen Jun 2016 #156

I only fired semi, but it was nicely set up and it fit me well. Not bad Eleanors38 Jun 2016 #176

Shooting a Lone Star can seems just ... wrong. JustABozoOnThisBus Jun 2016 #174

Agree on the bottles, but when on a deer hunt, and charged with clean-up... Eleanors38 Jun 2016 #177

Understood, cans are easier to pick up than broken glass... JustABozoOnThisBus Jun 2016 #178

I learned to put about 90% of shots on a man sized target at 500 meters with iron sights Fumesucker Jun 2016 #30

Same, only it was an m16. linuxman Jun 2016 #32

You are asking the wrong question. Aerows Jun 2016 #60

I'd rather nobody take a shot at me, personally. linuxman Jun 2016 #70

Again, you aren't asking the right question. n/t Aerows Jun 2016 #71

Which is what, this time? linuxman Jun 2016 #74

It's clearly pointless Aerows Jun 2016 #75

Irony, thy name is aerows. linuxman Jun 2016 #80

And, once again ... Aerows Jun 2016 #81

Should cops be allowed to have these? A HERETIC I AM Jun 2016 #10

Ask Orlando. jmg257 Jun 2016 #12

I'm asking the OP A HERETIC I AM Jun 2016 #14

Out of curiosity metalbot Jun 2016 #21

I think it's a rifle equipped to kill people from a long distance A HERETIC I AM Jun 2016 #22

That makes it clearer metalbot Jun 2016 #25

Nonsense A HERETIC I AM Jun 2016 #33

I have to agree to this but would like to add... Matt_R Jun 2016 #119

To kill citizens in case the cops lost the upper hand? FuzzyRabbit Jun 2016 #129

Many police departments have sniper teams Matrosov Jun 2016 #34

"What the ever living fuck does a police department need with such a weapon?" EX500rider Jun 2016 #76

What -- ARs? Or tripods? Or scopes? Straw Man Jun 2016 #124

Bolt action with 5 rounds? Not a big deal. When 30 round mags come out, then worry. nt jmg257 Jun 2016 #11

This is what I don't get about the gun debate... Odin2005 Jun 2016 #15

There's a greater irony about the concern over civilian weapons being military grade metalbot Jun 2016 #27

IIRC one of the "robber barons" purposefully sold the Union army shoddy guns... Odin2005 Jun 2016 #49

During the Civil War the (limited) adoption of repeaters was because Lincoln overrode the Army. Lord Magus Jun 2016 #128

The Model 700 is designed for killing game animals. Paladin Jun 2016 #17

They're functionally the same gun. Odin2005 Jun 2016 #18

The fantasies attached to each style of firearm are markedly different. Paladin Jun 2016 #24

hopefully not literally in the closet, you should store them securely Amishman Jun 2016 #26

I'm not getting your point DashOneBravo Jun 2016 #37

The vast majority of people are capable of differentiating fantasy from reality. Odin2005 Jun 2016 #51

So products should be banned based on the fantasies they inspire? n/t lumberjack_jeff Jun 2016 #53

I guess we should ban Call of Duty and Grand Theft Auto, too, based on that logic. Odin2005 Jun 2016 #54

Or place an $11,000 price tag on it to make it even more of a public threat. n/t lumberjack_jeff Jun 2016 #61

If you are talking about THIS Model 2010 for hunting deer... Ghost in the Machine Jun 2016 #41

Has anyone advocated for more then 5 rounds when hunting? I get your concern, jmg257 Jun 2016 #42

No, I was just pointing out that the statement that you could deer hunt with this gun was wrong, at Ghost in the Machine Jun 2016 #48

So few places have that shotgun-only restriction ManiacJoe Jun 2016 #136

In some States, the "Shotgun Only" restriction wouldn't work, either... Ghost in the Machine Jun 2016 #166

You missed my point, all I was saying was that both are at their core the same gun. Odin2005 Jun 2016 #55

I get the point about the cosmetics, I made a similar post on facebook earlier this week comparing a Ghost in the Machine Jun 2016 #165

Huh? Straw Man Jun 2016 #130

No, I don't have a link. going by what the Game Warden said, and what the Hunter's Safety Instructor Ghost in the Machine Jun 2016 #168

OK, thanks. Straw Man Jun 2016 #169

Yes, I think it's an NWTF rule on the 3 rounds. I downloaded and looked through the .pdf link, and a Ghost in the Machine Jun 2016 #172

Yeah, instructors might not be keeping up ... Straw Man Jun 2016 #173

Both the Remington M700 and the Winchester M70 were used as sniper rifle by the military. oneshooter Jun 2016 #97

Not just functionally, but legally. sir pball Jun 2016 #135

Both the Army and the Marines adopted the Model 700 as their standard sniper rifles hack89 Jun 2016 #19

"Appropriate fantasies accompany each model of rifle." Psychic are we? lol EX500rider Jun 2016 #77

Better a neighbor who has both, than one who believes guns have mind control properties Marengo Jun 2016 #88

Ouch! nt jonno99 Jun 2016 #154

Thats a nice looking weapon. GOLGO 13 Jun 2016 #23

Sniper rifles are a must. Never know when you need to shoot unarmed fleeing kid at 300 yards in back Hoyt Jun 2016 #28

Which one can't be used to engage a target at 300 yards? Marengo Jun 2016 #31

Actually, Marengo, I'm not much into "engaging" citizens with your beloved gunz. Believe it or not, Hoyt Jun 2016 #39

Another non-answer. Try again, which rifle is not capable of hitting a target at 300 yards? Marengo Jun 2016 #40

Where did you go Hoyt? Why are you avoiding post #40? Marengo Jun 2016 #89

Because it is an ignorant question. When gunners buy a rifle marketed as a "sniper" Hoyt Jun 2016 #93

In other words, you can't answer as that fatally weakens your argument. Marengo Jun 2016 #94

What is the substantial performance difference between the two at 300 yards Hoyt? Marengo Jun 2016 #96

I don't give a darn about the performance. I do care about yahoos who buy a gun marketed as Hoyt Jun 2016 #98

Which one doesn't have a 300 yard range, Hoyt? Marengo Jun 2016 #101

I'm a long range target shooter Hoyt, and the design of the M2010 is appealing... Marengo Jun 2016 #116

Well, you can give up your "hobby" for the good of society. Hoyt Jun 2016 #141

That isn't an answer. I thought you were okay with folks having a couple... Marengo Jun 2016 #142

Do you not know what hunting is? Odin2005 Jun 2016 #56

I'll bet my ass right now, not 15% of the yahoos that covet sniper rifles hunt with the damn things Hoyt Jun 2016 #58

Is this a serious claim? SuperDutyTX Jun 2016 #62

Here's how Barrett advertises their sniper rifles to yahoos. Not a friggin thing about hunting. Hoyt Jun 2016 #65

Right that's how they've chosen to market that, but.. SuperDutyTX Jun 2016 #66

Yeah, you don't have to reload as often when shooting people on the perimeter of one's compound. Hoyt Jun 2016 #67

DC sniper AntiBank Jun 2016 #170

to be fair SuperDutyTX Jun 2016 #171

Here's how Barrett markets a sniper rifles to stateside yahoos, nothing about hunting. Hoyt Jun 2016 #64

So, umm, how many people have been murdered with one? Do let us know... friendly_iconoclast Jun 2016 #73

Well ask police departments, and check out militia groups. Hoyt Jun 2016 #82

Why should I? You are the person implying that they are dangerous friendly_iconoclast Jun 2016 #92

It's been two days, and so far the only harm demonstrated is to your sensibilities friendly_iconoclast Jun 2016 #179

Which one more resembles the rifle most often used by Carlos Hathcock? Marengo Jun 2016 #95

You're flailing. Give it a rest. (nt) Paladin Jun 2016 #99

How about you answer the question? Which one of the two rifles pictured in the OP Marengo Jun 2016 #104

The 700 was closer to what Carlos used. The additional bells and whistles weren't available to him. Paladin Jun 2016 #107

So, other than for bells and whistles, no substantial difference in ballistic performance? Marengo Jun 2016 #110

Does that mean anyone who uses a 700 (or Win 70 as he actually used, or any other... Marengo Jun 2016 #115

I'm posing the same question to you as I did to Hoyt in post #116. Marengo Jun 2016 #118

No, you're doing a frantic technical dance to avoid the really important question: Paladin Jun 2016 #143

That isn't an answer, but I'll take it as acknowledgment that you agree... Marengo Jun 2016 #144

I've answered your questions. Have the courtesy to answer mine. (nt) Paladin Jun 2016 #145

No, you haven't. You either overlooked or avoided my question... Marengo Jun 2016 #146

It appears posts 109, 110, 112, & 115 are pending responses from you. Marengo Jun 2016 #147

I'll take that as a chickenshit cop-out by you. Many thanks. (nt) Paladin Jun 2016 #148

If you had time to type this bail-out, you had time to answer #146... Marengo Jun 2016 #149

They want their aesthetic judgements encoded into law, yet are reluctant... friendly_iconoclast Jun 2016 #181

And, while you're at it, explain the substantial difference in performance between the two platforms Marengo Jun 2016 #106

Well, the available jerkoff feature on the "sniper" model has its charms....... (nt) Paladin Jun 2016 #108

How about ballistic performance? Marengo Jun 2016 #109

Ergonomic enhancements are "jerkoff" features? Marengo Jun 2016 #112

This one. oneshooter Jun 2016 #100

Hmmmm...sure looks a lot more like a deer rifle than the M2010 Marengo Jun 2016 #105

It is a Winchester M70 with a heavy barrel oneshooter Jun 2016 #111

I know, USMC vet here. Marengo Jun 2016 #114

Ah, so it really is how a rifle looks. sir pball Jun 2016 #134

That appears to be the argument. Appearance determines intent. Performance on the other hand... Marengo Jun 2016 #152

Maybe the argument is "appearence determines appeal." malthaussen Jun 2016 #157

Lets muddy the waters by conflating sniper vs assault rifles. arendt Jun 2016 #35

"Assault rifles are semi-auto, easily converted to full auto." No, no they are not. EX500rider Jun 2016 #79

High Time DustyJoe Jun 2016 #36

The weapon used in the Orlando massacre is used by US special forces. Rex Jun 2016 #43

This message was self-deleted by its author Adrahil Jun 2016 #84

No, it isn't. Straw Man Jun 2016 #137

Yeah, semi-autos don't kill fast enough. Full-auto, or semi-auto, kill plenty quickly. Hoyt Jun 2016 #140

What's your point, Hoyt? Straw Man Jun 2016 #150

Waste of time, those that worship the Death Culture that comes with assault rifles Rex Jun 2016 #162

Wrong it is custom made for special forces, I bet you don't even know what I am talking about. Rex Jun 2016 #161

I know exactly what you're talking about, ... Straw Man Jun 2016 #167

Every gun lover is a potential terrorist, a potential suicide, an accident waiting to happen. hunter Jun 2016 #44

+1. I would like to see bumper stickers -- "PISS ON GUNS." Hoyt Jun 2016 #59

That would be great. Straw Man Jun 2016 #138

I bet I'd get more thumbs up than you guys and your NRA bumper stickers. Hoyt Jun 2016 #139

Ah, yes. Straw Man Jun 2016 #151

Bravo mwrguy Jun 2016 #68

How about people like me that own them but don't love them? Throd Jun 2016 #69

Why would you do that? hunter Jun 2016 #85

So is every driver of a motor vehicle. oneshooter Jun 2016 #102

I loathe automobiles. hunter Jun 2016 #113

Have you communicated your concerns about these potential terrorists to the FBI? Marengo Jun 2016 #120

Oh bother. hunter Jun 2016 #121

Oh, so you don't actually believe it and are spouting shit... Marengo Jun 2016 #122

Piss on guns. hunter Jun 2016 #123

So, yes, you acknowledge it's bullshit. Marengo Jun 2016 #127

Or, maybe you lack the courage of your convictions. What are you waiting for? Marengo Jun 2016 #126

Every drinker is a potential drunk driver!!!! NT Adrahil Jun 2016 #153

This is true. And we can use the same social pressures and legal remedies to reduce gun violence... hunter Jun 2016 #158

By the same token, we don't shame people who enjoy the occasional beer or rum. Adrahil Jun 2016 #159

All twelve of them. hunter Jun 2016 #160

The problem is ALL drunk-drivers are recreational drunks. Adrahil Jun 2016 #163

Look. I AM ANGRY. There's a horrible tragedy in a community I care deeply about and what happens? hunter Jun 2016 #164

This message was self-deleted by its author friendly_iconoclast Jun 2016 #180

Cool, but I'm not a good enough shot to get something like this. NaturalHigh Jun 2016 #46

Thats ok. I ain't much of a wingshot. n/t oneshooter Jun 2016 #103

That Rem 700 is almost exactly like my deer rifle. I like wood, but if Eleanors38 Jun 2016 #72

I'm giving serious consideration to getting the new Ruger Precision Rifle. Just reading posts Jun 2016 #117

Crap, I just noticed you mentioned big ARs. sir pball Jul 2016 #182

The Holy Thunderer (Frank Zappa) 45-70 has a rep for bear hunting. Eleanors38 Jul 2016 #183