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dreamnightwind

(4,775 posts)
8. Wow, where to start...
Sun May 1, 2016, 07:34 PM
May 2016

You say we're in a 2-party system, but the electorate has left them both, because they are owned by the same large corporate donors.

"It's a numbers game. So, either you recognize who your opponent is, work to beat the living shit out of that opponent and make changes while you're in a position to, or you get left behind and whine about it."

I recognize who my opponent is, it's the donors/owners of both major parties. And it's well past time that everyone else recognizes this too. The numbers game supports my argument, not yours, voters who refuse to affiliate are by far larger in numbers than those that belong to either party.

The ideological struggle you speak of is mostly contrived by the powers that be, so we don't notice the Acme, Inc. armored truck being loaded up with all the money of the Treasury, to be shipped offshore to tax havens for the wealthy. We are up against an existential crisis as a species, climate change, are besieged by terrorists who are blowback to the policies of U.S. military "adventurism" and regime change that are done by both parties, globalization and the trade policies that enable it are eroding opportunities for good secure jobs (also pushed by both parties), on and on. I define our ideological struggle differently than you.

Finally, there's a great deal of general harm (your term) that is caused by corporate Democrats, who are using the people-first cred our party cultivated over long years of standing up for the little guy, to pass corporate agendas the people would more fiercely resist if they were being pushed by Republicans.

There are certainly real left-right divisions between Democrats and Republicans. Unfortunately, the far more urgent problems (climate change, endless wars, poverty, exploitation of desperate labor pools, mass incarceration and the police state, an out-of-control financial industry, many others) largely transcend these divisions. The presumptive party nominee is on the wrong side of every one of these issues, as is the party leadership. At this point our party has pretty much succumbed to corporate capture.

Can it be fixed internally, in-party? I certainly hope so. Many of us have watched this primary and seen what our party really stands for, and we're not seeing any sign of reform, the party has instead doubled-down on corporate supremacy. Defining our mission as simply opposing Republicans enables this.

Fuckin' A! longship May 2016 #1
Thanks, I am ready for the GE, what a year of the clown car. Thinkingabout May 2016 #2
The only thing any of Trump's wives felt charming awoke_in_2003 May 2016 #19
Would not be worth waking up just one day with him Thinkingabout May 2016 #21
No doubt. nt awoke_in_2003 May 2016 #23
YES!! Preach. I plan to go hard for my DEM slate - very very hard underthematrix May 2016 #3
+1000 for hard-core Social Conservatives, and Hortensis May 2016 #4
I strongly disagree with this OP dreamnightwind May 2016 #5
Welcome to the Two-Party system, my friend, time to pick a side. MrScorpio May 2016 #7
Wow, where to start... dreamnightwind May 2016 #8
Yesiree Bob! tom_kelly May 2016 #12
Agree dreamnightwind May 2016 #15
And your solution during an election cycle for this problem is doing what? MrScorpio May 2016 #14
The "you have nowhere else to go" argument is not enough dreamnightwind May 2016 #16
Yep, except that our options here in November won't be between a corp D and a non-corp D MrScorpio May 2016 #22
It will be interesting, for sure dreamnightwind May 2016 #25
I fall in the same area of the graph... awoke_in_2003 May 2016 #20
Anarchist Syndicate? Kalidurga May 2016 #27
+1 Paka May 2016 #13
You're quite welcome dreamnightwind May 2016 #17
When there are limited choices, you fight for what is most right Democat May 2016 #28
Awesome rant! wryter2000 May 2016 #6
11 Governors, 13 Senators, 69 Reps, 913 state seats, and left with 26% of the electorate MisterP May 2016 #9
Get Out the Vote. Two to four Supreme Court Justice choices depend on it. Bernardo de La Paz May 2016 #10
I am SOOOOO ready to focus on those assholes, especially one whose name starts with t. MoonRiver May 2016 #11
I'll drink to that awoke_in_2003 May 2016 #18
Works for me, Mr Scorpio. I'll drink Republican Tears like a fine dry wine. Hekate May 2016 #24
Right with you gwheezie May 2016 #26
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