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hfojvt

(37,573 posts)
32. maybe that explains why I am not
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 12:47 PM
Mar 2016

My own hourly wages

1993 - $5.10
1995 - $5.4 (until I was laid off on my March birthday, happy 33rd to me)
1996 - $5.5
1998 - $7.15
1999 - $7.25
2000 - $8.5
2002 - $10.69
2016 - $14.96

Adjusted for inflation (and throw in benefits)

1993 - $8.37 (one week of vacation, paid holidays)
1995 - $8.40 (same)
1996 - $8.31 (none)
1998 - $10.40 (still none)
1999 - $10.32 (none)
2000 - $11.70 (one week paid vacation, paid holidays - both of which I lost when company switched temp services)
2002 - $14.09 (paid holidays, 2 weeks vacation, sick leave, pension)
2016 - $14.96 (all of the above plus health insurance)

granted not much growth since 2002, but not losing ground either. Getting the moderately good job I did in 2002 (although it paid a little less than the job I was fired from) made for an instant 7% growth rate from 1993 to 2002

There are other factors too, From 1993-95 I was full time (plus self employed full time (but making almost NO money at my bookstore). In 1995 until March 1996 my only paid job was shoveling snow, so I made almost nothing (but the store continued to cover my residence expenses). For most of 1998-2001 I was full time temp. From 2002-May 2004 I was part time. 2004-Oct 2006 was full time, and getting health insurance free. 2006-Oct 2011 part time, 2011-Aug 2014 full time (and slightly higher wage).

The periods of full time work allowed me to put away some money, paid off my house in October 2005, so living expenses went down about $9,000 a year at that time (they could have been lower, but I paid that much to pay off the house.) That helps too.

Things could have been better. That factory where I was a temp could (should) have hired me in 2000 or 2001 and I would not have moved (and lost a bunch of money in real estate and had to buy a new house) but they could have been worse too.

Helped along by establishments politics. Insanity. eom zalinda Mar 2016 #1
Indeed. Very few understand how money comes into the system... TampaAnimusVortex Mar 2016 #41
Let me add a few... JHB Mar 2016 #2
As a younger voter I really get it astrophuss42 Mar 2016 #3
You just want free stuff and fluffy unicorns. (sarcasm icon here) n/t sarge43 Mar 2016 #4
Hillary never got any free stuff. snort Mar 2016 #27
Not to worry ... KPN Mar 2016 #5
Ha! SammyWinstonJack Mar 2016 #9
If by fix you mean.... daleanime Mar 2016 #17
Nailed it. highoverheadspace Mar 2016 #6
Oh... SoapBox Mar 2016 #7
Very well said. zentrum Mar 2016 #14
Wow. Perfect! virgista Mar 2016 #16
agreed!!! ellennelle Mar 2016 #25
Perfect response. eom Duval Mar 2016 #36
K & R . . . explained here . . . . HughBeaumont Mar 2016 #8
Ben Carson. snort Mar 2016 #30
Precisely! JDPriestly Mar 2016 #55
That is the basics and a political system that is bought and jwirr Mar 2016 #10
Another problem is both gentry GOPers and gentry Dem look down upon workers LettuceSea Mar 2016 #11
squeezing more out of use for less money. nt Javaman Mar 2016 #12
There it is Iwillnevergiveup Mar 2016 #13
People are slow to get over treestar Mar 2016 #15
Guilt is not the reason our wages have been stagnant for 35 years, that is called Blaming The Victim Dont call me Shirley Mar 2016 #18
not the whole time. "with the exception of a period of strong across-the-board wage growth" Amimnoch Mar 2016 #19
My family's wages did not go up during that time. Some wages went up, many did NOT! Many Dont call me Shirley Mar 2016 #21
So you are saying the article as cited is false? Amimnoch Mar 2016 #23
No, I'm saying my wages nor my spouses wages have gone up since the 1980s, blue collar. Dont call me Shirley Mar 2016 #51
That does seem to be the only period since 1980 when real wages for manufacturing workers increased. pampango Mar 2016 #24
Not so much who was president as what was happening. JoeyT Mar 2016 #69
When Greenspan ran the Fed ... aggiesal Mar 2016 #28
+1,000,000 HughBeaumont Mar 2016 #38
^^^ marions ghost Mar 2016 #46
Not sure I agree because you talk to most people treestar Mar 2016 #50
OMG my husband does more in one day than all the workers in his shop, then he comes home and Dont call me Shirley Mar 2016 #52
This right here^. malokvale77 Mar 2016 #54
No I do not, geez I was merely commenting on why average mass of Americans treestar Mar 2016 #58
I don't just claim my husband works hard, I avow that he works his ass off. Discussing American Dont call me Shirley Mar 2016 #60
Stop accusing me of victim blaming treestar Mar 2016 #71
"58. No I do not, geez I was merely commenting on why average mass of Americans allows this Dont call me Shirley Mar 2016 #74
It appears Bernie supporters are just wiser to the long con going on than Hillary sheeple, like you! FighttheFuture Mar 2016 #62
but then how are you going to get votes from all us inferior people? treestar Mar 2016 #70
I present information like anyone else here. Keep in mind the real decline in the last 35 FighttheFuture Mar 2016 #73
Yet the basis of productivity has shifted whatthehey Mar 2016 #20
Bernie Is The Only Antidote cantbeserious Mar 2016 #22
when the people below them are hurting marions ghost Mar 2016 #26
There seems to be a direct correlation Cryptoad Mar 2016 #29
I don't really know what Hillary's plan is to fix this. Loudestlib Mar 2016 #43
my name is not Hillary,,,,,, Cryptoad Mar 2016 #48
Ahhhh I see Loudestlib Mar 2016 #49
You are so right. This place is going to be as boring and useless as anything once we JDPriestly Mar 2016 #56
Thomas Frank puts this into words Cassidy Mar 2016 #31
maybe that explains why I am not hfojvt Mar 2016 #32
In 1990 I started at job xloadiex Mar 2016 #33
actually it is a big decrease hfojvt Mar 2016 #39
Lower 90% are not represented in government. chknltl Mar 2016 #34
I've heard the goal of Republicans is to lower the minimum wage to $3.50 an hour. Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2016 #35
That's an awesome idea if one's an asshat who cares nothing about an economic future. HughBeaumont Mar 2016 #42
I'm more of this camp.... Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2016 #45
Me like ^this^. chwaliszewski Mar 2016 #66
Meanwhile in Rural America Ducksworthy Mar 2016 #37
We will get our representation, somehow, some day. Smart folks in the Dem Party should take notice. highprincipleswork Mar 2016 #40
Keep acting like this started in 1979. Indydem Mar 2016 #44
A coincidence? creatives4innovation Mar 2016 #59
Remember when they claimed the Alaska Pipeline would eliminate Middle East oil dependency? Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2016 #67
Payback for the New Deal.. freebrew Mar 2016 #72
The super rich do not create US jobs. Brother_Love Mar 2016 #47
K & R MoreGOPoop Mar 2016 #53
when bringing this up to republican friends PatrynXX Mar 2016 #57
Kick and R BeanMusical Mar 2016 #61
finally I see what trickled down! Wages! CarrieLynne Mar 2016 #63
WHY REAGAN KILLED THE UNIONS FOR CRAPITALISM. off shoring is a GOOD THING FOR pansypoo53219 Mar 2016 #64
Democratic Leadership is hell bent on sending as many jobs to India and China and Mexico as possible whereisjustice Mar 2016 #65
We The People are becoming serfs again nikto Mar 2016 #68
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