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pampango

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27. I don't think international law allows limiting refugee status based on gender or marital status.
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 07:06 PM
Feb 2016

Of the 30 people arrested for the Cologne attacks on New Years Eve, 27 were from Morocco, Algeria and Tunisia, 2 were German citizens and 1 was an American. None were from Syria, Iraq or Afghanistan.

Ship the young adult single males - who are the undeniable cause of these outrages - out now. It really doesn't matter where

All of them or just those guilty of the committing the outrages? (If the latter, I agree. If the former, not so much.) Whether they are genuine refugees or asylum seekers of not? That's sounds like something that Mr. Trump or the German far-right could get behind. (Admittedly they would follow that up with deporting the rest of the families, women and children. Maybe that is where liberals draw the line.)

Merkel shit the bed by letting in everyone who showed up.

Perhaps but if Merkel had done nothing the "shit in the bed" would have been in Greece. Out of sight. Out of mind. Some might think that Germany is better to handle the 'shit in the bed' (what a term for war refugees) than Greece is capable of.

And if the left doesn't address the hard right will make more hay than can be imagined from it.

Undoubtedly true. The hard right will make hay from any liberal policy. The more poorly administered the policy, the more hay they will make from it. The hard right has been making hay about Muslim immigrants for many years. This just makes it worse.

In general I prefer that liberal governments act liberally, not out of fear of the reaction of the hard right, but a smart liberal is always aware of how the hard right is likely to react and to govern liberally and effectively.


The German government's first duty is to German citizens ...

Quite true, but not just in a RW law-and-order sense of idea. If liberal German citizens want to welcome refugees, the government has a duty to act accordingly. If 'hard right' carries the day eventually and German citizens want the refugees gone, the government will have a duty to act accordingly.
When the far right cleans up in those leftynyc Feb 2016 #1
In Germany, the right-wing isn't growing. It's merely becoming louder. DetlefK Feb 2016 #3
I guess we'll see after leftynyc Feb 2016 #4
Oh, I misunderstood that. My bad. DetlefK Feb 2016 #5
The author just doesn't get it. Quantess Feb 2016 #2
Hear, hear! smirkymonkey Feb 2016 #6
what are they doing? Fast Walker 52 Feb 2016 #11
I suspect you are trolling. smirkymonkey Feb 2016 #13
I haven't folowed this that much-- I only heard of the New Year's Eve attacks Fast Walker 52 Feb 2016 #16
There are no statistics worth diddly squat Dems to Win Feb 2016 #30
The Guardian and other 'left wing papers' are full of stories on this. It is not "what the migrants pampango Feb 2016 #14
exactly-- this can veer into an ugly direction very easily Fast Walker 52 Feb 2016 #17
WHERE are the liberals standing up for the freedom of movement and safety of German women and girls? Dems to Win Feb 2016 #29
Prepare to be appalled -- Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2016 #31
I suspect the writer was too clever by half in using "Oriental man." Igel Feb 2016 #7
A British friend once told me that people from East Asia hifiguy Feb 2016 #23
Sexual harassment did exist in the West before these migrants came treestar Feb 2016 #8
And is there is single catch-all term for the behaviour at Cologne? DetlefK Feb 2016 #10
clearly the Cologne thing was horrible Fast Walker 52 Feb 2016 #18
Google "Lara Logan Tahrir". DetlefK Feb 2016 #19
Female Egyptian doctoral candidate in Germany says commonplace in Arab culture Dems to Win Feb 2016 #33
Not of this sort. hifiguy Feb 2016 #24
Yeah, but usually it's the RW making excuses for a bad culture. Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2016 #32
stopped reading after "so-called sex attacks"--tells you that the author is a douchenozzle nt geek tragedy Feb 2016 #9
That pissed me off more than anything. smirkymonkey Feb 2016 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author Shandris Feb 2016 #15
I still wish N.O.W. would comment on this. If they have..I haven't seen it. nt clarice Feb 2016 #20
Merkel shit the bed by letting in everyone who showed up. hifiguy Feb 2016 #21
I don't think international law allows limiting refugee status based on gender or marital status. pampango Feb 2016 #27
Just a case of runaway Dudebro-ism... Blue_Tires Feb 2016 #22
Outright fascist Islamophobia on DU, wonderful. Odin2005 Feb 2016 #25
Apparently some rape cultures are more equal than others. Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2016 #34
North Africans ARE Arabs; they speak Arabic! Dems to Win Feb 2016 #26
k&r Dems to Win Feb 2016 #28
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