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cannabis_flower

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81. The right thing to do...
Tue Jan 5, 2016, 10:11 AM
Jan 2016

is to estimate your bill and either put the cash on the table (under a plate if you are worried about someone taking it) or leave and immediately call the restaurant and say, "I left your restaurant because I didn't feel safe with people carrying guns in the restaurant. I am calling to pay my bill. I will not be coming back to your restaurant until you post a sign saying you don't allow guns" I doubt under this circumstance you could be charged with anything. I actually think the latter is better because it tells the restaurant owner how you feel. If enough people do this the owner will get the message.

Not paying is theft. Also, sometimes the server has to pay for a walked check (that may not be legal but it happens and sometimes the server doesn't know it is illegal). It's not the server's fault. It's bad enough not getting a tip, but also having to pay for a walked ticket is even worse.

Sounds very reasonable. I hope it catches on. GoneFishin Jan 2016 #1
I hope it catches on. AlbertCat Jan 2016 #86
VIDEO yuiyoshida Jan 2016 #130
I've always been against concealed carry. postulater Jan 2016 #2
Opposite for me. Open carry is for suckers. 7962 Jan 2016 #30
Agreed. Lizzie Poppet Jan 2016 #119
Fuck both kinds of "carry." hunter Jan 2016 #104
AMEN!!!! etherealtruth Jan 2016 #145
I talked to a police officer about that. leftyladyfrommo Jan 2016 #149
Read the comments from the gunhumpers. Typical BS/crazy. CurtEastPoint Jan 2016 #3
So his plan is to steal from restaurant owners and servers to make a political point Lee-Lee Jan 2016 #4
Private businesses can decide whether to allow guns jberryhill Jan 2016 #5
it depends if it is a threat Duckhunter935 Jan 2016 #6
Cops get away with killing people by saying "I felt my life was threatened." Binkie The Clown Jan 2016 #179
Depends if you reasonably feel its a threat. JoePhilly Jan 2016 #245
well if it were my business Duckhunter935 Jan 2016 #248
Call the police then. JoePhilly Jan 2016 #249
Someone open carrying a firearm is not an unsafe condition Indydem Jan 2016 #9
I'm not waiting around to find out jberryhill Jan 2016 #10
Then stay at home. Indydem Jan 2016 #13
No, I'm going to go out & let you know I don't like seeing someone with a gun. Demit Jan 2016 #17
Gun Nut? Indydem Jan 2016 #20
You can ridicule me all you like. I don't care. Demit Jan 2016 #48
Post removed Post removed Jan 2016 #50
Obviously, the person carrying the firearm into a family restaurant is afraid of the world. Fuddnik Jan 2016 #68
"Loaded Security Blanket" kracer20 Jan 2016 #90
Right? That's living in fear 24/7. But being afraid of the gun is irrational???? arcane1 Jan 2016 #253
Lol... says the guy who can't go outside without a weapon jberryhill Jan 2016 #70
Exactly what I was gonna say randys1 Jan 2016 #151
hey. retrowire Jan 2016 #76
You are afraid of the world. AlbertCat Jan 2016 #89
Gun nuts are the ones afraid of the world, pal. People who don't want to be around guns are... ChisolmTrailDem Jan 2016 #121
You have a right to leave... TipTok Jan 2016 #128
THe lawyer says it isnt stealing, maybe you should read what he said. randys1 Jan 2016 #152
The lawyer is incorrect... TipTok Jan 2016 #156
No, the lawyer is correct and you are wrong. But that wasnt hard to figure out. randys1 Jan 2016 #159
Are you suggesting that there is no reasonableness standard... TipTok Jan 2016 #161
Talk to the lawyer. If I wanna know what a rash is, I dont ask an auto mechanic. randys1 Jan 2016 #162
I just read what he said... TipTok Jan 2016 #169
I'm a litigation attorney. branford Jan 2016 #172
Civil court is what this discussion is about. So when you say randys1 Jan 2016 #194
I most certainly do not agree, branford Jan 2016 #196
You are arguing with the other lawyer, not me randys1 Jan 2016 #199
You claimed you were right because a lawyer arguably agreed with you. branford Jan 2016 #200
What do guns have in common with Black folks? stone space Jan 2016 #186
The common point... TipTok Jan 2016 #187
How are Black folks like guns? stone space Jan 2016 #189
I'm not sure how to make this any simpler.... TipTok Jan 2016 #192
You could make it simpler by not comparing human beings with deadly weapons. stone space Jan 2016 #202
Ahh.. So you understand the logic... TipTok Jan 2016 #206
Black folks are not deadly weapons. (nt) stone space Jan 2016 #207
No one suggested that they were.. TipTok Jan 2016 #208
People can develop irrational fear or hatred of both Lee-Lee Jan 2016 #235
The comparrison is offensive and racist. (nt) stone space Jan 2016 #236
Not at all Lee-Lee Jan 2016 #237
Guns are designed and engineered to kill people. stone space Jan 2016 #238
And people develop irrational fears of both Lee-Lee Jan 2016 #239
he fails to see the Duckhunter935 Jan 2016 #241
And extremely paranoid. leftyladyfrommo Jan 2016 #147
Lol, I've never been to such an establishment jberryhill Jan 2016 #19
Post removed Post removed Jan 2016 #24
I certainly don't frequent the kinds of places you do jberryhill Jan 2016 #62
Hope yeah never experience this one type of attack EriktheRedder Jan 2016 #173
I'm orders of magnitude more likely to be killed in a car accident on the way to the restaurant jberryhill Jan 2016 #185
You are correct. EriktheRedder Jan 2016 #256
I'm sorry, but you gunners are so fucking weird. It isn't your guns that scare me . . . Ed Suspicious Jan 2016 #73
Imagine me, pushing a rec. button, snort Jan 2016 #105
+1. You nailed it. n/t FSogol Jan 2016 #164
^^ This right here ^^ Scuba Jan 2016 #182
they are weapons of mass projection aren't they....? mikeysnot Jan 2016 #25
what BS azureblue Jan 2016 #102
You got your nerve talking about someone being scared when flamin lib Jan 2016 #108
That does seem to be the only option available to the myopic or small mind LanternWaste Jan 2016 #110
If you feel so unsafe you need to have a gun with you everywhere... joeybee12 Jan 2016 #114
Why? Do we not have a right to leave our homes? stone space Jan 2016 #184
So I assume you are fine with someone open carrying a..... blackspade Jan 2016 #32
Why not? Indydem Jan 2016 #38
Who said anything about Larping? blackspade Jan 2016 #52
Spoiler alert: it isn't. Indydem Jan 2016 #57
Protecting themselves from whom? blackspade Jan 2016 #63
Protecting themselves from whom? AlbertCat Jan 2016 #93
If they are just carrying it an not hurting or threatening anyone I don't care Lee-Lee Jan 2016 #41
Nobody cares. Indydem Jan 2016 #46
Says the open carry advocate.... blackspade Jan 2016 #59
So you agree that civilians who carry a gun around everywhere skepticscott Jan 2016 #115
So as a deputy, you would walk right by me in the blackspade Jan 2016 #55
Need more info before I can say Lee-Lee Jan 2016 #71
So you would need more info.... blackspade Jan 2016 #125
Long gun maybe. Pistol no Lee-Lee Jan 2016 #127
So, this hypothetical person is carrying... Jerry442 Jan 2016 #40
Do you cower Indydem Jan 2016 #45
So, why is he carrying the gun? NT Jerry442 Jan 2016 #65
The real answer is that it isn't any of your business.... TipTok Jan 2016 #129
Then it wouldn't be any of his business... Jerry442 Jan 2016 #140
I look at this situation as a basis........................... turbinetree Jan 2016 #82
to show that a(n) Amendment was factually based on slave patrols in Georgia, Virginia.... AlbertCat Jan 2016 #99
If that amendment were based on slave patrols, why did those same folks go back to their own states- X_Digger Jan 2016 #171
The British are coming.... the British are coming! AlbertCat Jan 2016 #218
So this 'slave patrol' angle is crap. Thanks for agreeing. X_Digger Jan 2016 #219
I'm not compelled to act like these people are normal. There's nothing that will make me do so. DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2016 #91
Oh there have been many news stories about open carry workinclasszero Jan 2016 #107
Funny how that works. A cop can shoot any blavck person who "Goesfor a gun" even when there is not Vincardog Jan 2016 #142
People who open carry are proclaiming their ability to kill me with one finger. Binkie The Clown Jan 2016 #178
Typical "Blame the Victim". stone space Jan 2016 #183
They aren't a victim unless they have been.... wait for it... TipTok Jan 2016 #193
"a resident saw a man carrying a rifle on her residential block prior to a deadly gun rampage" arcane1 Jan 2016 #252
if they're white.... open carry blacks get murdered uponit7771 Jan 2016 #257
a fire is an unsafe condition and demonstrably so. A firearm in a holster is not such a condition Lee-Lee Jan 2016 #37
Let's see: gun fantasy guy versus practicing attorney. Whose side should I choose? DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2016 #96
I'm a litigation attorney and do not own any firearms. branford Jan 2016 #174
Not when you are fleeing for your life. stone space Jan 2016 #215
Do you actually believe you don't have to pay for your meal branford Jan 2016 #216
I have the right to flee for my life. stone space Jan 2016 #217
Why are you so special that you deem yourself to be above the law? TipTok Jan 2016 #220
he is the one that would let his whole department Duckhunter935 Jan 2016 #225
Reminds me of Kim Davis... TipTok Jan 2016 #231
sadly yes Duckhunter935 Jan 2016 #232
I would call 911 after leaving, but ... stone space Jan 2016 #188
911 is reserved for actual emergencies. branford Jan 2016 #197
I will call 911 on open carry ammosexual assholes. stone space Jan 2016 #201
back to the insults I see Duckhunter935 Jan 2016 #204
Sick of seeing the NRA's internet lawyers trying... stone space Jan 2016 #205
what a lawyer correctly Duckhunter935 Jan 2016 #211
At least he didn't beg DashOneBravo Jan 2016 #221
? Duckhunter935 Jan 2016 #222
Maybe I'm confused DashOneBravo Jan 2016 #223
I posted one apology thread that was not swiveling Duckhunter935 Jan 2016 #224
You can't lecture anyone DashOneBravo Jan 2016 #228
I learned and have not been on another vacation and have 1 Duckhunter935 Jan 2016 #230
Thanks DashOneBravo Jan 2016 #250
no problem Duckhunter935 Jan 2016 #255
"NRA's internet lawyers?" Huh. branford Jan 2016 #210
Anybody can make legal threats over the internet. stone space Jan 2016 #212
not a threat Duckhunter935 Jan 2016 #213
Threats? Are you trolling or just willfully ignorant about the 911 system and basic civics? branford Jan 2016 #214
"a resident saw a man carrying a rifle on her residential block prior to a deadly gun rampage" arcane1 Jan 2016 #254
thank you jberryhill for interjecting example and the law for gunhumpers. nt bonniebgood Jan 2016 #87
thank you Brainstormy Jan 2016 #95
The notion that waiting for a check means you are held hostage to a gun-toter with unknown plans jberryhill Jan 2016 #97
Precisely. n/t ljm2002 Jan 2016 #101
So you want me to risk my life so some wanna be gun slinger can pretend his penis isn't as tiny Augiedog Jan 2016 #7
Open carry has been legal in most of the country for decades Lee-Lee Jan 2016 #29
This MAY be the stupidest thing I have read this week. elias49 Jan 2016 #8
When someone feels threatened it is their right to seek safety. Kingofalldems Jan 2016 #12
No, I understand what is actually a threat and what is not Lee-Lee Jan 2016 #26
It's not a threat to you. But it may be to others Blue_Adept Jan 2016 #39
A persons emotional instability isn't justification for theft. Lee-Lee Jan 2016 #44
The subject is guns being displayed openly. Kingofalldems Jan 2016 #42
not to gun humping racist cowards it isn't Skittles Jan 2016 #163
Did you give them an occular pat-down, Mac? DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2016 #98
You aren't taking into account that a person could be truly scared. Demit Jan 2016 #15
Well by all means. Indydem Jan 2016 #16
All good points. 7962 Jan 2016 #22
If a clown has a gun---yeah. Kingofalldems Jan 2016 #23
Not changing the subject. Indydem Jan 2016 #28
You made someone mad & sad Lurks Often Jan 2016 #53
I do that often. Indydem Jan 2016 #61
Based on 'emotions'. That's what Limbaugh says about liberals. Kingofalldems Jan 2016 #165
straight out of the rovian handbook hopemountain Jan 2016 #176
the odds are not "ridiculously low". Because besides mass shooting there are 'ACCIDENTAL' shootings. KittyWampus Jan 2016 #69
The odds are in fact "ridiculously low". One only has to look at the numbers Lee-Lee Jan 2016 #77
Accidental shootings don't all end in homicides, they often end in injuries. KittyWampus Jan 2016 #80
Easy now. snort Jan 2016 #112
Not sure there are enough incidents of "armed clown walking into a restaurant" Bradical79 Jan 2016 #146
Clowns and spiders don't have the potential to shoot guns. Demit Jan 2016 #33
Meh. Indydem Jan 2016 #36
Well, isn't that grown-up of them. Just the sort of people who should carry guns. Demit Jan 2016 #54
Glad you are annoyed. Indydem Jan 2016 #58
I'm not telling you how to live your life. I'm living mine the way I want. Demit Jan 2016 #64
What if we gamble on them "just annoying us" and lose? Arugula Latte Jan 2016 #134
You're "unbelievable." Arugula Latte Jan 2016 #133
You can inform the business that you will settle the bill in a safe place outside the establishment Tikki Jan 2016 #79
So his plan is to steal from restaurant owners and servers to make a political point AlbertCat Jan 2016 #88
No, the stupidest thing I've read this week is mountain grammy Jan 2016 #92
So if a fire breaks out at the restaurant Flying Squirrel Jan 2016 #122
Some fucker with a gun walks in, I'm not going to wait around to see what he does. Arugula Latte Jan 2016 #132
Funny thing is in the interaction you describe Lee-Lee Jan 2016 #135
Too bad. Gun = Run Arugula Latte Jan 2016 #157
they don't care about ANYTHING like they do about guns Skittles Jan 2016 #160
LOL Skittles Jan 2016 #158
When I was growing up, I lived for about three years in a rural town where everyone hunted. haele Jan 2016 #138
That's a common-sense town. Demit Jan 2016 #141
I lived for several years in a small town where a lot of poeple would open carry. Binkie The Clown Jan 2016 #180
Same here. Even in small towns, if they didn't know you, you couldn't open carry without challenge. haele Jan 2016 #195
Of course you leave immediately alcibiades_mystery Jan 2016 #11
No you do not. Indydem Jan 2016 #14
I would let the courts decide on thousands of cases of people with families alcibiades_mystery Jan 2016 #27
Post removed Post removed Jan 2016 #35
Thousands of cases? branford Jan 2016 #198
Yeah, open carry into restaurants is a good idea LuvLoogie Jan 2016 #34
Not much of a disguise jberryhill Jan 2016 #66
The presence of a gun may not be a danger, but Binkie The Clown Jan 2016 #181
Lol, no, you are supposed to wait until they start shooting jberryhill Jan 2016 #21
Most places I go already have signs saying "no weapons" 7962 Jan 2016 #18
That would be the simple solution. pintobean Jan 2016 #31
No, it isnt. But that you think so is NO surprise here randys1 Jan 2016 #153
Thank you. pintobean Jan 2016 #167
You presume he is promoting dine and dash - why wouldn't he MillennialDem Jan 2016 #234
I actually read what he said. pintobean Jan 2016 #240
I love the people here tgat advocate Duckhunter935 Jan 2016 #242
He is reinforcing to not pay before you leave. That's more important. He may MillennialDem Jan 2016 #243
You've moved the goalpost. pintobean Jan 2016 #244
According to KC police it's against the law leftyladyfrommo Jan 2016 #47
Precisely. Thats why making "open" legal didnt really mean much 7962 Jan 2016 #123
We don't have open carry. leftyladyfrommo Jan 2016 #126
Depends on how they made it legal. jeff47 Jan 2016 #137
Do you know where thats the case? 7962 Jan 2016 #143
Not off the top of my head. jeff47 Jan 2016 #168
I believe you might be referring to "public accommodations." branford Jan 2016 #175
That's what I would do. leftyladyfrommo Jan 2016 #43
theft is not a good thing, feel sorry for you Duckhunter935 Jan 2016 #51
I don't go places that allow guns. leftyladyfrommo Jan 2016 #60
it's the concealed ones Duckhunter935 Jan 2016 #67
SHE SAID SHE WOULD MAKE SURE THEY GOT PAID KentuckyWoman Jan 2016 #72
I added that later because I realized I had left that part out. leftyladyfrommo Jan 2016 #83
Great idea! santafe52 Jan 2016 #49
I know quite a few people that own guns, some with many guns. hobbit709 Jan 2016 #56
Exactly what I intend to do. sinkingfeeling Jan 2016 #74
This message was self-deleted by its author sinkingfeeling Jan 2016 #75
Just like I have all the gun humpers on ignore at DU Generic Other Jan 2016 #78
The right thing to do... cannabis_flower Jan 2016 #81
Thank you! Duppers Jan 2016 #150
That's the best idea if you ever see anybody open carrying because you cannot dscern intent. MohRokTah Jan 2016 #84
Better idea: MineralMan Jan 2016 #85
Sound idea, MM. I like it. And no, I'm not being ironic, I simply agree with you on this. nt DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2016 #100
Or you will get arrested for false reports or misuse of 911 Lee-Lee Jan 2016 #103
aw for fuck sakes. just tell the cops the open Solomon Jan 2016 #144
More threats from the NRA's internet lawyers. stone space Jan 2016 #203
"They looked crazy to me." JoePhilly Jan 2016 #247
+1 uponit7771 Jan 2016 #258
In my town open carry is against the law. hunter Jan 2016 #117
I've not seen any open carry in Minnesota, and am not sure MineralMan Jan 2016 #120
Trading one armed nutcase for another... ecstatic Jan 2016 #191
+ 1 JoePhilly Jan 2016 #246
I would leave but I would tell the waitstaff that I will be out in my truck Le Taz Hot Jan 2016 #94
thats exactly what my mom said 2 days ago PatrynXX Jan 2016 #106
But of course. Did people really wait for the good Professor to say this before they got this clue? lonestarnot Jan 2016 #109
I already do that in restaurants. Iggo Jan 2016 #111
I have an idea sweetapogee Jan 2016 #113
That's the only thing that will get their attention. Vinca Jan 2016 #116
If I was dining alone I'd be tempted to throw food at the open carry guy. hunter Jan 2016 #118
And you're, what, 18? Flying Squirrel Jan 2016 #124
And bringing a gun along as a date to a restaurant is mature? hunter Jan 2016 #136
I agree that's also immature. Flying Squirrel Jan 2016 #170
After reading this entire thread, 200+ posts now... hunter Jan 2016 #209
Which is the same most sane people would do if they saw a rattlesnake on the premises. K&R Tierra_y_Libertad Jan 2016 #131
Does anyone on DU ever change their mind from these exchanges ????? steve2470 Jan 2016 #139
Nope. leftyladyfrommo Jan 2016 #148
agreed...nt Jesus Malverde Jan 2016 #229
yes... At first I would just run... now I'd run and then call the police and pay afterwards uponit7771 Jan 2016 #259
What i like about this thread is the gun folks who are NOT participating. Who may randys1 Jan 2016 #154
exactly what I plan to do Skittles Jan 2016 #155
That's exactly what I've said for a long, long time Warpy Jan 2016 #166
If someone walked into a restaurant and loudly proclaimed "I can kill you all with one finger." Binkie The Clown Jan 2016 #177
And the irony is that the armed person might try to play hero and shoot ecstatic Jan 2016 #190
Voting with your feet ... Trajan Jan 2016 #226
Yep. That's exactly what I would do. underthematrix Jan 2016 #227
Open-carry is for men who feel sexually inadequate. The gun is an obvious stand-in for their penis ellenrr Jan 2016 #233
I would probably do that instinctively, without even thinking about it. arcane1 Jan 2016 #251
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