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Indydem

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28. Not changing the subject.

Tue Jan 5, 2016, 09:19 AM

Jan 2016

You are not going to be killed in a mass shooting.

The odds are ridiculously low.

You have an unfounded an irrational fear of human beings.

Go cower at home.

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Professor Has Simple Way To Deal With Open Carry Activists(VIDEO at Link) [View all] Tripper11 Jan 2016 OP

Sounds very reasonable. I hope it catches on. GoneFishin Jan 2016 #1

I hope it catches on. AlbertCat Jan 2016 #86

VIDEO yuiyoshida Jan 2016 #130

I've always been against concealed carry. postulater Jan 2016 #2

Opposite for me. Open carry is for suckers. 7962 Jan 2016 #30

Agreed. Lizzie Poppet Jan 2016 #119

Fuck both kinds of "carry." hunter Jan 2016 #104

AMEN!!!! etherealtruth Jan 2016 #145

I talked to a police officer about that. leftyladyfrommo Jan 2016 #149

Read the comments from the gunhumpers. Typical BS/crazy. CurtEastPoint Jan 2016 #3

So his plan is to steal from restaurant owners and servers to make a political point Lee-Lee Jan 2016 #4

Private businesses can decide whether to allow guns jberryhill Jan 2016 #5

it depends if it is a threat Duckhunter935 Jan 2016 #6

Cops get away with killing people by saying "I felt my life was threatened." Binkie The Clown Jan 2016 #179

Depends if you reasonably feel its a threat. JoePhilly Jan 2016 #245

well if it were my business Duckhunter935 Jan 2016 #248

Call the police then. JoePhilly Jan 2016 #249

Someone open carrying a firearm is not an unsafe condition Indydem Jan 2016 #9

I'm not waiting around to find out jberryhill Jan 2016 #10

Then stay at home. Indydem Jan 2016 #13

No, I'm going to go out & let you know I don't like seeing someone with a gun. Demit Jan 2016 #17

Gun Nut? Indydem Jan 2016 #20

You can ridicule me all you like. I don't care. Demit Jan 2016 #48

Post removed Post removed Jan 2016 #50

Obviously, the person carrying the firearm into a family restaurant is afraid of the world. Fuddnik Jan 2016 #68

"Loaded Security Blanket" kracer20 Jan 2016 #90

Right? That's living in fear 24/7. But being afraid of the gun is irrational???? arcane1 Jan 2016 #253

Lol... says the guy who can't go outside without a weapon jberryhill Jan 2016 #70

Exactly what I was gonna say randys1 Jan 2016 #151

hey. retrowire Jan 2016 #76

You are afraid of the world. AlbertCat Jan 2016 #89

Gun nuts are the ones afraid of the world, pal. People who don't want to be around guns are... ChisolmTrailDem Jan 2016 #121

You have a right to leave... TipTok Jan 2016 #128

THe lawyer says it isnt stealing, maybe you should read what he said. randys1 Jan 2016 #152

The lawyer is incorrect... TipTok Jan 2016 #156

No, the lawyer is correct and you are wrong. But that wasnt hard to figure out. randys1 Jan 2016 #159

Are you suggesting that there is no reasonableness standard... TipTok Jan 2016 #161

Talk to the lawyer. If I wanna know what a rash is, I dont ask an auto mechanic. randys1 Jan 2016 #162

I just read what he said... TipTok Jan 2016 #169

I'm a litigation attorney. branford Jan 2016 #172

Civil court is what this discussion is about. So when you say randys1 Jan 2016 #194

I most certainly do not agree, branford Jan 2016 #196

You are arguing with the other lawyer, not me randys1 Jan 2016 #199

You claimed you were right because a lawyer arguably agreed with you. branford Jan 2016 #200

What do guns have in common with Black folks? stone space Jan 2016 #186

The common point... TipTok Jan 2016 #187

How are Black folks like guns? stone space Jan 2016 #189

I'm not sure how to make this any simpler.... TipTok Jan 2016 #192

You could make it simpler by not comparing human beings with deadly weapons. stone space Jan 2016 #202

Ahh.. So you understand the logic... TipTok Jan 2016 #206

Black folks are not deadly weapons. (nt) stone space Jan 2016 #207

No one suggested that they were.. TipTok Jan 2016 #208

People can develop irrational fear or hatred of both Lee-Lee Jan 2016 #235

The comparrison is offensive and racist. (nt) stone space Jan 2016 #236

Not at all Lee-Lee Jan 2016 #237

Guns are designed and engineered to kill people. stone space Jan 2016 #238

And people develop irrational fears of both Lee-Lee Jan 2016 #239

he fails to see the Duckhunter935 Jan 2016 #241

And extremely paranoid. leftyladyfrommo Jan 2016 #147

Lol, I've never been to such an establishment jberryhill Jan 2016 #19

Post removed Post removed Jan 2016 #24

I certainly don't frequent the kinds of places you do jberryhill Jan 2016 #62

Hope yeah never experience this one type of attack EriktheRedder Jan 2016 #173

I'm orders of magnitude more likely to be killed in a car accident on the way to the restaurant jberryhill Jan 2016 #185

You are correct. EriktheRedder Jan 2016 #256

I'm sorry, but you gunners are so fucking weird. It isn't your guns that scare me . . . Ed Suspicious Jan 2016 #73

Imagine me, pushing a rec. button, snort Jan 2016 #105

+1. You nailed it. n/t FSogol Jan 2016 #164

^^ This right here ^^ Scuba Jan 2016 #182

they are weapons of mass projection aren't they....? mikeysnot Jan 2016 #25

what BS azureblue Jan 2016 #102

You got your nerve talking about someone being scared when flamin lib Jan 2016 #108

That does seem to be the only option available to the myopic or small mind LanternWaste Jan 2016 #110

If you feel so unsafe you need to have a gun with you everywhere... joeybee12 Jan 2016 #114

Why? Do we not have a right to leave our homes? stone space Jan 2016 #184

So I assume you are fine with someone open carrying a..... blackspade Jan 2016 #32

Why not? Indydem Jan 2016 #38

Who said anything about Larping? blackspade Jan 2016 #52

Spoiler alert: it isn't. Indydem Jan 2016 #57

Protecting themselves from whom? blackspade Jan 2016 #63

Protecting themselves from whom? AlbertCat Jan 2016 #93

If they are just carrying it an not hurting or threatening anyone I don't care Lee-Lee Jan 2016 #41

Nobody cares. Indydem Jan 2016 #46

Says the open carry advocate.... blackspade Jan 2016 #59

So you agree that civilians who carry a gun around everywhere skepticscott Jan 2016 #115

So as a deputy, you would walk right by me in the blackspade Jan 2016 #55

Need more info before I can say Lee-Lee Jan 2016 #71

So you would need more info.... blackspade Jan 2016 #125

Long gun maybe. Pistol no Lee-Lee Jan 2016 #127

So, this hypothetical person is carrying... Jerry442 Jan 2016 #40

Do you cower Indydem Jan 2016 #45

So, why is he carrying the gun? NT Jerry442 Jan 2016 #65

The real answer is that it isn't any of your business.... TipTok Jan 2016 #129

Then it wouldn't be any of his business... Jerry442 Jan 2016 #140

I look at this situation as a basis........................... turbinetree Jan 2016 #82

to show that a(n) Amendment was factually based on slave patrols in Georgia, Virginia.... AlbertCat Jan 2016 #99

If that amendment were based on slave patrols, why did those same folks go back to their own states- X_Digger Jan 2016 #171

The British are coming.... the British are coming! AlbertCat Jan 2016 #218

So this 'slave patrol' angle is crap. Thanks for agreeing. X_Digger Jan 2016 #219

I'm not compelled to act like these people are normal. There's nothing that will make me do so. DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2016 #91

Oh there have been many news stories about open carry workinclasszero Jan 2016 #107

Funny how that works. A cop can shoot any blavck person who "Goesfor a gun" even when there is not Vincardog Jan 2016 #142

People who open carry are proclaiming their ability to kill me with one finger. Binkie The Clown Jan 2016 #178

Typical "Blame the Victim". stone space Jan 2016 #183

They aren't a victim unless they have been.... wait for it... TipTok Jan 2016 #193

"a resident saw a man carrying a rifle on her residential block prior to a deadly gun rampage" arcane1 Jan 2016 #252

if they're white.... open carry blacks get murdered uponit7771 Jan 2016 #257

a fire is an unsafe condition and demonstrably so. A firearm in a holster is not such a condition Lee-Lee Jan 2016 #37

Let's see: gun fantasy guy versus practicing attorney. Whose side should I choose? DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2016 #96

I'm a litigation attorney and do not own any firearms. branford Jan 2016 #174

Not when you are fleeing for your life. stone space Jan 2016 #215

Do you actually believe you don't have to pay for your meal branford Jan 2016 #216

I have the right to flee for my life. stone space Jan 2016 #217

Why are you so special that you deem yourself to be above the law? TipTok Jan 2016 #220

he is the one that would let his whole department Duckhunter935 Jan 2016 #225

Reminds me of Kim Davis... TipTok Jan 2016 #231

sadly yes Duckhunter935 Jan 2016 #232

I would call 911 after leaving, but ... stone space Jan 2016 #188

911 is reserved for actual emergencies. branford Jan 2016 #197

I will call 911 on open carry ammosexual assholes. stone space Jan 2016 #201

back to the insults I see Duckhunter935 Jan 2016 #204

Sick of seeing the NRA's internet lawyers trying... stone space Jan 2016 #205

what a lawyer correctly Duckhunter935 Jan 2016 #211

At least he didn't beg DashOneBravo Jan 2016 #221

? Duckhunter935 Jan 2016 #222

Maybe I'm confused DashOneBravo Jan 2016 #223

I posted one apology thread that was not swiveling Duckhunter935 Jan 2016 #224

You can't lecture anyone DashOneBravo Jan 2016 #228

I learned and have not been on another vacation and have 1 Duckhunter935 Jan 2016 #230

Thanks DashOneBravo Jan 2016 #250

no problem Duckhunter935 Jan 2016 #255

"NRA's internet lawyers?" Huh. branford Jan 2016 #210

Anybody can make legal threats over the internet. stone space Jan 2016 #212

not a threat Duckhunter935 Jan 2016 #213

Threats? Are you trolling or just willfully ignorant about the 911 system and basic civics? branford Jan 2016 #214

"a resident saw a man carrying a rifle on her residential block prior to a deadly gun rampage" arcane1 Jan 2016 #254

thank you jberryhill for interjecting example and the law for gunhumpers. nt bonniebgood Jan 2016 #87

thank you Brainstormy Jan 2016 #95

The notion that waiting for a check means you are held hostage to a gun-toter with unknown plans jberryhill Jan 2016 #97

Precisely. n/t ljm2002 Jan 2016 #101

So you want me to risk my life so some wanna be gun slinger can pretend his penis isn't as tiny Augiedog Jan 2016 #7

Open carry has been legal in most of the country for decades Lee-Lee Jan 2016 #29

This MAY be the stupidest thing I have read this week. elias49 Jan 2016 #8

When someone feels threatened it is their right to seek safety. Kingofalldems Jan 2016 #12

No, I understand what is actually a threat and what is not Lee-Lee Jan 2016 #26

It's not a threat to you. But it may be to others Blue_Adept Jan 2016 #39

A persons emotional instability isn't justification for theft. Lee-Lee Jan 2016 #44

The subject is guns being displayed openly. Kingofalldems Jan 2016 #42

not to gun humping racist cowards it isn't Skittles Jan 2016 #163

Did you give them an occular pat-down, Mac? DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2016 #98

You aren't taking into account that a person could be truly scared. Demit Jan 2016 #15

Well by all means. Indydem Jan 2016 #16

All good points. 7962 Jan 2016 #22

If a clown has a gun---yeah. Kingofalldems Jan 2016 #23

Not changing the subject. Indydem Jan 2016 #28

You made someone mad & sad Lurks Often Jan 2016 #53

I do that often. Indydem Jan 2016 #61

Based on 'emotions'. That's what Limbaugh says about liberals. Kingofalldems Jan 2016 #165

straight out of the rovian handbook hopemountain Jan 2016 #176

the odds are not "ridiculously low". Because besides mass shooting there are 'ACCIDENTAL' shootings. KittyWampus Jan 2016 #69

The odds are in fact "ridiculously low". One only has to look at the numbers Lee-Lee Jan 2016 #77

Accidental shootings don't all end in homicides, they often end in injuries. KittyWampus Jan 2016 #80

Easy now. snort Jan 2016 #112

Not sure there are enough incidents of "armed clown walking into a restaurant" Bradical79 Jan 2016 #146

Clowns and spiders don't have the potential to shoot guns. Demit Jan 2016 #33

Meh. Indydem Jan 2016 #36

Well, isn't that grown-up of them. Just the sort of people who should carry guns. Demit Jan 2016 #54

Glad you are annoyed. Indydem Jan 2016 #58

I'm not telling you how to live your life. I'm living mine the way I want. Demit Jan 2016 #64

What if we gamble on them "just annoying us" and lose? Arugula Latte Jan 2016 #134

You're "unbelievable." Arugula Latte Jan 2016 #133

You can inform the business that you will settle the bill in a safe place outside the establishment Tikki Jan 2016 #79

So his plan is to steal from restaurant owners and servers to make a political point AlbertCat Jan 2016 #88

No, the stupidest thing I've read this week is mountain grammy Jan 2016 #92

So if a fire breaks out at the restaurant Flying Squirrel Jan 2016 #122

Some fucker with a gun walks in, I'm not going to wait around to see what he does. Arugula Latte Jan 2016 #132

Funny thing is in the interaction you describe Lee-Lee Jan 2016 #135

Too bad. Gun = Run Arugula Latte Jan 2016 #157

they don't care about ANYTHING like they do about guns Skittles Jan 2016 #160

LOL Skittles Jan 2016 #158

When I was growing up, I lived for about three years in a rural town where everyone hunted. haele Jan 2016 #138

That's a common-sense town. Demit Jan 2016 #141

I lived for several years in a small town where a lot of poeple would open carry. Binkie The Clown Jan 2016 #180

Same here. Even in small towns, if they didn't know you, you couldn't open carry without challenge. haele Jan 2016 #195

Of course you leave immediately alcibiades_mystery Jan 2016 #11

No you do not. Indydem Jan 2016 #14

I would let the courts decide on thousands of cases of people with families alcibiades_mystery Jan 2016 #27

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Thousands of cases? branford Jan 2016 #198

Yeah, open carry into restaurants is a good idea LuvLoogie Jan 2016 #34

Not much of a disguise jberryhill Jan 2016 #66

The presence of a gun may not be a danger, but Binkie The Clown Jan 2016 #181

Lol, no, you are supposed to wait until they start shooting jberryhill Jan 2016 #21

Most places I go already have signs saying "no weapons" 7962 Jan 2016 #18

That would be the simple solution. pintobean Jan 2016 #31

No, it isnt. But that you think so is NO surprise here randys1 Jan 2016 #153

Thank you. pintobean Jan 2016 #167

You presume he is promoting dine and dash - why wouldn't he MillennialDem Jan 2016 #234

I actually read what he said. pintobean Jan 2016 #240

I love the people here tgat advocate Duckhunter935 Jan 2016 #242

He is reinforcing to not pay before you leave. That's more important. He may MillennialDem Jan 2016 #243

You've moved the goalpost. pintobean Jan 2016 #244

According to KC police it's against the law leftyladyfrommo Jan 2016 #47

Precisely. Thats why making "open" legal didnt really mean much 7962 Jan 2016 #123

We don't have open carry. leftyladyfrommo Jan 2016 #126

Depends on how they made it legal. jeff47 Jan 2016 #137

Do you know where thats the case? 7962 Jan 2016 #143

Not off the top of my head. jeff47 Jan 2016 #168

I believe you might be referring to "public accommodations." branford Jan 2016 #175

That's what I would do. leftyladyfrommo Jan 2016 #43

theft is not a good thing, feel sorry for you Duckhunter935 Jan 2016 #51

I don't go places that allow guns. leftyladyfrommo Jan 2016 #60

it's the concealed ones Duckhunter935 Jan 2016 #67

SHE SAID SHE WOULD MAKE SURE THEY GOT PAID KentuckyWoman Jan 2016 #72

I added that later because I realized I had left that part out. leftyladyfrommo Jan 2016 #83

Great idea! santafe52 Jan 2016 #49

I know quite a few people that own guns, some with many guns. hobbit709 Jan 2016 #56

Exactly what I intend to do. sinkingfeeling Jan 2016 #74

This message was self-deleted by its author sinkingfeeling Jan 2016 #75

Just like I have all the gun humpers on ignore at DU Generic Other Jan 2016 #78

The right thing to do... cannabis_flower Jan 2016 #81

Thank you! Duppers Jan 2016 #150

That's the best idea if you ever see anybody open carrying because you cannot dscern intent. MohRokTah Jan 2016 #84

Better idea: MineralMan Jan 2016 #85

Sound idea, MM. I like it. And no, I'm not being ironic, I simply agree with you on this. nt DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2016 #100

Or you will get arrested for false reports or misuse of 911 Lee-Lee Jan 2016 #103

aw for fuck sakes. just tell the cops the open Solomon Jan 2016 #144

More threats from the NRA's internet lawyers. stone space Jan 2016 #203

"They looked crazy to me." JoePhilly Jan 2016 #247

+1 uponit7771 Jan 2016 #258

In my town open carry is against the law. hunter Jan 2016 #117

I've not seen any open carry in Minnesota, and am not sure MineralMan Jan 2016 #120

Trading one armed nutcase for another... ecstatic Jan 2016 #191

+ 1 JoePhilly Jan 2016 #246

I would leave but I would tell the waitstaff that I will be out in my truck Le Taz Hot Jan 2016 #94

thats exactly what my mom said 2 days ago PatrynXX Jan 2016 #106

But of course. Did people really wait for the good Professor to say this before they got this clue? lonestarnot Jan 2016 #109

I already do that in restaurants. Iggo Jan 2016 #111

I have an idea sweetapogee Jan 2016 #113

That's the only thing that will get their attention. Vinca Jan 2016 #116

If I was dining alone I'd be tempted to throw food at the open carry guy. hunter Jan 2016 #118

And you're, what, 18? Flying Squirrel Jan 2016 #124

And bringing a gun along as a date to a restaurant is mature? hunter Jan 2016 #136

I agree that's also immature. Flying Squirrel Jan 2016 #170

After reading this entire thread, 200+ posts now... hunter Jan 2016 #209

Which is the same most sane people would do if they saw a rattlesnake on the premises. K&R Tierra_y_Libertad Jan 2016 #131

Does anyone on DU ever change their mind from these exchanges ????? steve2470 Jan 2016 #139

Nope. leftyladyfrommo Jan 2016 #148

agreed...nt Jesus Malverde Jan 2016 #229

yes... At first I would just run... now I'd run and then call the police and pay afterwards uponit7771 Jan 2016 #259

What i like about this thread is the gun folks who are NOT participating. Who may randys1 Jan 2016 #154

exactly what I plan to do Skittles Jan 2016 #155

That's exactly what I've said for a long, long time Warpy Jan 2016 #166

If someone walked into a restaurant and loudly proclaimed "I can kill you all with one finger." Binkie The Clown Jan 2016 #177

And the irony is that the armed person might try to play hero and shoot ecstatic Jan 2016 #190

Voting with your feet ... Trajan Jan 2016 #226

Yep. That's exactly what I would do. underthematrix Jan 2016 #227

Open-carry is for men who feel sexually inadequate. The gun is an obvious stand-in for their penis ellenrr Jan 2016 #233

I would probably do that instinctively, without even thinking about it. arcane1 Jan 2016 #251