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Thu Dec 3, 2015, 03:16 PM Dec 2015

40 years ago I hunted ducks and doves. [View all]

And I ate them after cooking them. I lived in the country and it was a way of life for me. I had a 12 gauge Remington which I had purchased from Sears. I could also hit 100 out of 100 hand thrown skeet.

Then I grew up.

I decided I didn't like killing things. I sold the gun and never owned another.

A few years later, my life took me to manage a Woolworth's which had a sporting goods center where we sold everything except handguns. Mini-14's Old Mauser 8mm's a variety of 30-06's and shotguns. I learned a lot there.

The Mini-14's are .223 cal like the guns used in yesterday's violence. I learned that they weren't that good for hunting deer because the caliber was too small and would often just breeze through the target before bouncing around and destroying organs. They are pretty much designed to kill people. At the time, most of the Ruger Mini 14 customers were cops who would buy large clips and tape a couple together so they could flip it in a moment to increase the fire power. The guns would then reside in the officer's trunk and wait for a riot or something that the cops in Atlanta seemed to be expecting back in the early 70's there.

I also learned about straw buyers and killers when ATF came in tracking guns that were sold there before my arrival.

I guess this walk down my memory lane is cementing the fact that I feel I left guns behind is because "I grew up." Both physically and spiritually in the sense that I wanted to have as little to do as possible with the taking of life. I left Woolworth's after only a couple of years.

I also have to wonder after reading many pro gun posts how the hell I have lived so long without owning or carrying a gun. I have lived in inner cities, sketchy rural areas, even had guns pulled on me a couple of times. All that and never once was shot. None of the people I know or known have ever been shot or had to shoot someone in self defense.

I feel that many of the posts we read here today rallying around the gun and how it's necessary for self defense are pure bullshit. Those sorts of situations are scarce as hen's teeth but I'm sure someone will post articles about a convenience store operator scaring off or killing a robber.

The thing is, I don't want to kill a robber or anyone else. I can only speak from my personal experience in which I have lived without a gun with no repercussions from deciding to live in such a fashion. Chances are most people in America can fare as well.

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Basketballs are recreational, I play with them, therefore it is a toy, in a sense. randys1 Dec 2015 #1
Dunno... I'm a gamer and have killed a lot in Mass Effect and Dragon Age Photographer Dec 2015 #4
My grandson turned me on to the new NBA game, PS4, I am addicted. randys1 Dec 2015 #5
I seem to have been addicted to one game or another since the first Doom Photographer Dec 2015 #6
LOL Gamer after my own heart. Aerows Dec 2015 #11
I was really disappointed in Inquisition, Photographer Dec 2015 #18
There is a gaming forum on DU hibbing Dec 2015 #38
No rush..... daleanime Dec 2015 #22
This message was self-deleted by its author darkangel218 Dec 2015 #2
Sorry that ever happened to you. Photographer Dec 2015 #3
You're "sorry for the bloodlust the event seems to have instilled in me"?? darkangel218 Dec 2015 #9
Apologies. I'm a pacifist and a Buddhist Photographer Dec 2015 #13
Then delete the post. darkangel218 Dec 2015 #14
I edited it leaving only that I'm sorry for your experience. Photographer Dec 2015 #16
So you would willingly sacrifice your life without fighting back? philosslayer Dec 2015 #20
I have thought about that a lot. Photographer Dec 2015 #21
Thats your choice. But you shouldn't call people that they "bloodlust" because they want to defend darkangel218 Dec 2015 #33
Ahimsa, the practice of doing no violence to living things, Eleanors38 Dec 2015 #50
. Brickbat Dec 2015 #10
This message was self-deleted by its author darkangel218 Dec 2015 #12
Damn that's terrible DashOneBravo Dec 2015 #15
He read it obviosly, because he replied to me. darkangel218 Dec 2015 #46
I am also a rape survivor. Pacifist Patriot Dec 2015 #7
It's interesting, everyone has their own path and perspective; it can be difficult to see others'. Brickbat Dec 2015 #8
"40 years ago I hunted ducks and doves." retrowire Dec 2015 #17
LOL... I still eat meat on occassion. Photographer Dec 2015 #19
there's a cure for that guilt! retrowire Dec 2015 #44
Great post. jalan48 Dec 2015 #23
No one. Thanks. Photographer Dec 2015 #88
There has been and always will be idiots that own firearms...wait is this something new here? Rex Dec 2015 #24
See Australia. Photographer Dec 2015 #25
The Land Down Under! Rex Dec 2015 #29
But they did do it. Photographer Dec 2015 #32
I don't know, but I think a lot won't comply. Rex Dec 2015 #40
Not at first. After they see arrests made for non-compliance many would change their tune Photographer Dec 2015 #43
Sounds great to me. Rex Dec 2015 #47
"Then I grew up" < i.e. you got other people to do your killing for you. The American Way. n/t jtuck004 Dec 2015 #26
How do you figure that? Photographer Dec 2015 #27
people who enjoy killing animals never admit it Skittles Dec 2015 #30
You can't just pull yourself out of the muck and pretend to be more moral than anyone else. Well, jtuck004 Dec 2015 #52
Thank you and it is called collective quilt. First heard of it jwirr Dec 2015 #63
An injury to one is an injury to all. That was the philosophy behind one big union, the WWW. jtuck004 Dec 2015 #66
So your argument is that because the US is involved in wars, these domestic mass slaughters are Squinch Dec 2015 #83
I am laughing at the self-righteous who think they are better than others while still profiting jtuck004 Dec 2015 #89
Well good for you. So as long as the US is invoved in wars, you find these massacres to be Squinch Dec 2015 #93
agreed Skittles Dec 2015 #28
Trophy hunters not only admit to it, they proudly display their kills on the wall. Rex Dec 2015 #31
but that is the excuse Skittles Dec 2015 #34
Yes, they call it 'sport' because Rex Dec 2015 #41
wouldn't want to think of them as cowards, would we Rex Skittles Dec 2015 #72
I would not mock them if they took on the beasts with their bare hands in a loincloth. Rex Dec 2015 #74
Who are you that you can attest to the fact that herds do not jwirr Dec 2015 #65
EXHIBIT # 29837 Skittles Dec 2015 #71
Well, Skittles, we know how this goes. Of course your statement is correct, but it's the Squinch Dec 2015 #84
I'm afraid you are right. smirkymonkey Dec 2015 #96
He is not here to speak for himself, because...guns ScreamingMeemie Dec 2015 #37
they always have a "reasom" Skittles Dec 2015 #73
No, my husband didn't have a reason. ScreamingMeemie Dec 2015 #80
"scarce as hen's teeth"... maybe in your neck of the woods. ScreamingMeemie Dec 2015 #35
I agree with you. TexasMommaWithAHat Dec 2015 #57
The vast majority of 318 million Americans never need a gun for anything. Agnosticsherbet Dec 2015 #36
Wise post. Thank you. yardwork Dec 2015 #39
One way to get rid of guns in the long run RoccoR5955 Dec 2015 #42
We romanticize guns and violence way too much here in the states. Photographer Dec 2015 #45
Romanticize guns ??? darkangel218 Dec 2015 #60
Quit stalking me. "Invoking RW assholes?" Really? Photographer Dec 2015 #61
Didnt you just post this in the post above?? darkangel218 Dec 2015 #62
The Presidents Security Guards. Munificence Dec 2015 #69
Ah Munificence Dec 2015 #48
Due to the TOS of this site I can't say what I think of your post. Photographer Dec 2015 #49
You had no problem saying how you felt to me darkangel218 Dec 2015 #51
Per your request, I edited that post to delete what you found offensive. Photographer Dec 2015 #56
You merelly edited. darkangel218 Dec 2015 #58
I tried DashOneBravo Dec 2015 #70
If you attack gun-owners in GD, there are few consequences... Eleanors38 Dec 2015 #55
Oh, I'll play: Munificence Dec 2015 #64
"You guys?" Who, Liberals? Photographer Dec 2015 #67
No Munificence Dec 2015 #68
Breathe... and welcome to DU. ScreamingMeemie Dec 2015 #81
Good point. Thx. Photographer Dec 2015 #82
Didn't you read the ENTIRE 2nd Amendment RoccoR5955 Dec 2015 #54
Do think you fucking know me Munificence Dec 2015 #59
That's right RoccoR5955 Dec 2015 #90
On this statement: Munificence Dec 2015 #75
400 posts and active since 2002. You must be a very selective person. Squinch Dec 2015 #85
Post removed Post removed Dec 2015 #97
In case you already have not noticed RoccoR5955 Dec 2015 #92
When our government decides Munificence Dec 2015 #98
Post removed Post removed Dec 2015 #99
Are you seriously saying President Obama should not have armed security? uppityperson Dec 2015 #100
The results on the post below davidpdx Dec 2015 #101
So, you're a vegetarian? TexasMommaWithAHat Dec 2015 #53
Came home after 15 months of in country Vietnam madokie Dec 2015 #76
I can sure see how that happened. Photographer Dec 2015 #77
I had grew up with guns madokie Dec 2015 #78
I did bring home a few squirrels back then Photographer Dec 2015 #79
I see more people getting into guns and hunting then leaving belcffub Dec 2015 #86
I can certainly relate to your post. Photographer Dec 2015 #87
I get out with the camera often belcffub Dec 2015 #91
Great post. My experience is similar to yours. Paladin Dec 2015 #94
Thank you. Photographer Dec 2015 #95
Wait a minute DashOneBravo Dec 2015 #103
I believe you need to back the fuck off. (nt) Paladin Dec 2015 #104
You are too funny P DashOneBravo Dec 2015 #114
You were in the military? Gee I never would have guessed. Paladin Dec 2015 #115
Ooh, I got a sun tan, standing way back here. Good job! n/t X_Digger Dec 2015 #105
You're easily impressed, aren't you? Paladin Dec 2015 #106
Aww, poor Paladin. X_Digger Dec 2015 #109
I gave you credit for knowing better. Big mistake on my part. (nt) Paladin Dec 2015 #111
Oh noes, I'm scared!! X_Digger Dec 2015 #112
Bullshit. Paladin Dec 2015 #113
Having a gun lying around is a bad option, imo BeyondGeography Dec 2015 #102
You are free to make those choices, but I will fight you... aikoaiko Dec 2015 #107
I'll use my votes to try and change laws. That's as close as I would imagine we would fight. Photographer Dec 2015 #108
Good. I vote to change laws for the better, too. aikoaiko Dec 2015 #110
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