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lunatica

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3. It will be as few jobs as is possible after computers do most of the work
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 11:15 PM
Nov 2015

That sounds crazy, but it's exactly what's happening. I work in UC Berkeley which isn't supposed to be a corporation. It's one of the most famous institutions of higher learning. But it's rapidly being turned over to an administration that is cut back to the barest of bones, all jobs being done online and believe it or not almost off shored. There are hundreds of us who in the past were part of each department doing the administrative work keeping each department viable. Then along came the concept of what Mitt Romney's Bain company did.

The Chancellor et al, because our state budget had been cut back for a few years in a row so badly that the university had to come up with something to stay afloat hired contractors, advisers to study and come up with ideas. They spent 3 million dollars doing this. To make a long story short they eventually decided to make the contractors into a department that would save the university millions (!!!!), yes, millions (!!!!) of dollars in just a mere half dozen years.

They created a thing, a kind of monstrous entity that took every person from each department that did the same things and ripped them out from the departments and housed them in a type of warehouse far from the campus to do these jobs. These were the jobs that were the very heartbeat of each department. Reimbursing research travel and entertainment (millions of dollars worth), hiring the important graduate students who actually do the teaching and the research, running the financial and budgetary issues and doing all the purchasing of scientific research essentials, and they basically off-shored them dozens of blocks away from the campus and departments.

and now, because they actually haven't saved any money and their debts are coming due, they have told us, the very people described above that there will be hundreds of layoff. Most of us find it quite questionable whether they can do this and succeed in any way. There are things about universities that don't lend themselves to the corporate way of doing business, and those of us in the trenches know this. Corporations are in the business of making a profit. Research universities like UC Berkeley are in the business of spending money in the pursuit of the betterment of humanity. But just like all this didn't matter or even cross the mind of Mitt Romney's Bain corporation because the whole point was for the company, and in this case the university is to fail.

I weep for my job which will probably be gone soon, but I also weep for the entire concept of the UC Berkeley education and research in whose students have to pay outrageous tuitions for a more mediocre education, limited by the loss of institutional memory and heart.

Thank you. Kath1 Nov 2015 #1
I wrote something very similar just under your post lunatica Nov 2015 #6
actually, given the number of guns in this country, there will be revolution before that roguevalley Nov 2015 #67
The US is turning into just another shit corporation for many people, definitely RKP5637 Nov 2015 #2
Reich and others have been warning of this for some time. When will people believe it, appalachiablue Nov 2015 #26
It doesn't matter if we believe it or not. Most people can't save a million Nay Nov 2015 #59
Tell me something I don't already realize, the wrath is also unnecessary. appalachiablue Nov 2015 #62
Exactly n/t easttexaslefty Nov 2015 #63
It will be as few jobs as is possible after computers do most of the work lunatica Nov 2015 #3
So pathetic, and it is future USA. n/t RKP5637 Nov 2015 #5
Absolutely right. Kath1 Nov 2015 #17
That's rotten LiberalEsto Nov 2015 #35
We had the same thing happen greymattermom Nov 2015 #37
That would make a nice OP in the California group KamaAina Nov 2015 #51
People performing low-skill, repetitive tasks, for little or no pay? Nye Bevan Nov 2015 #4
Wait, wut? By Jove... Xipe Totec Nov 2015 #9
Thanks for making me spew my Diet Pespi onto my keyboard n/t SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2015 #10
ROFL Definitely a DUzy. Live and Learn Nov 2015 #21
I look forward to the time robots become our overlords and give us a merciful death. nt Xipe Totec Nov 2015 #7
Naw lunatica Nov 2015 #8
If robot labor is cheaper, then it follows that maintenance robots are cheaper than humans. Xipe Totec Nov 2015 #12
Well unless we all just die they gotta find something for us to do lunatica Nov 2015 #13
That's a question for our silicon based replacements. Carbon is so Cenozoic nt Xipe Totec Nov 2015 #14
The large scale die-off has been on the drawing board hifiguy Nov 2015 #49
In essence, in a warped way, humans are robots now. n/t RKP5637 Nov 2015 #33
Obsolete robots. nt Xipe Totec Nov 2015 #40
Definitely, quite true! n/t RKP5637 Nov 2015 #44
Obsoletely Fabulous! Xipe Totec Nov 2015 #52
... RKP5637 Nov 2015 #53
Leela: "Oh lord, he's made out of wood." hifiguy Nov 2015 #56
This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Nov 2015 #16
A love song! nt Xipe Totec Nov 2015 #18
Gogol Bordello Supertheory of Supereverything Xipe Totec Nov 2015 #20
You'll get as much cake as you like MowCowWhoHow III Nov 2015 #30
I'm looking forward to the Robotic Union riots... Javaman Nov 2015 #42
It Is Why Lower Unemployment Rates Ate Misleading colsohlibgal Nov 2015 #11
Except median pay is increasing and uninsured numbers plumetting whatthehey Nov 2015 #15
:facepalm: jeff47 Nov 2015 #19
+1000 nt Live and Learn Nov 2015 #22
It in large part depends on when you are measuring from mythology Nov 2015 #28
How much has the cost of public education increased? How are pensions doing comparatively? JonLeibowitz Nov 2015 #31
That's because the ever-wealthier 1% are skewing the median numbers LiberalEsto Nov 2015 #36
And if we go back to 5000 BCE, median income has increased massively!!! jeff47 Nov 2015 #41
K & R !!! WillyT Nov 2015 #23
To be followed by complaints that Americans "aren't spending enough!" hatrack Nov 2015 #24
I saw a report on the local news tonight bitching about that very thing DebbieCDC Nov 2015 #25
^^^ This ^^^ cantbeserious Nov 2015 #27
Exactly!!! Just keeping up buying food is outrageous. Crap way over priced. n/t RKP5637 Nov 2015 #34
and need to cut up their credit cards, the greedy little things! MisterP Nov 2015 #45
Robotics and automation aside Populist_Prole Nov 2015 #29
What does it have to do with Reagan and the 1980's? The2ndWheel Nov 2015 #32
Dip Shit Reagan Proposed A "Service Economy". It Was Code For Eventual "Task Rabbit" Jobs. TheMastersNemesis Nov 2015 #38
Robert is a prophet. kentuck Nov 2015 #39
He got fed up with Clinton's duplicitous horseshit. hifiguy Nov 2015 #48
Fewer workers, fewer benefits, fewer pensions = higher profit % for investors. But hey---Didn't WinkyDink Nov 2015 #43
No society can bear that kind of systemic insecurity. hifiguy Nov 2015 #46
No kidding - TBF Nov 2015 #47
The source of the majority of the world's problems is capitalism. hifiguy Nov 2015 #50
Yep, and I would also add to that religion. n/t RKP5637 Nov 2015 #54
Without question. hifiguy Nov 2015 #55
Should have outgrown by now? The2ndWheel Nov 2015 #57
Science was perking along rather nicely hifiguy Nov 2015 #58
Civilization is a resource concentration mechanism The2ndWheel Nov 2015 #60
Rational people would have discarded hifiguy Nov 2015 #61
Well said! mdbl Nov 2015 #65
There you go with the should's again The2ndWheel Dec 2015 #69
Oh, the Horse Collar, Horse Shoe, Hay were NOT major discoveries? or they just helped the poor... happyslug Nov 2015 #66
Roll back the Reagan De-Revolution. Dont call me Shirley Nov 2015 #64
Not slaves. Octafish Nov 2015 #68
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