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whereisjustice

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Sat Nov 28, 2015, 01:53 PM Nov 2015

I hope people understand that there is a real possibility of another civil war in America [View all]

There's a power vacuum created by the lack of any challenge to the right wing political direction in this country. Even Democrats are encouraged to embrace conservative ideologies regarding crime, war, corporations, etc.

While these policies are wholeheartedly embraced by Republicans, to a somewhat lesser extent they are also embraced by Democrats, thanks to the pragmatic system of letting Wall Street money write our legislative policy.

No one is willing to aggressively challenge the right wing policies creating huge pockets of poverty and disparity of justice. Not Bill, not Hillary, not Obama.

As a result, conservatives have become emboldened. They have no fear of serious counter attack. They own the narrative. That's because strong individuals who are willing to call out the corruption and fraud holding our Government captive will never pass the Wall Street audition. So we settle for more of the same.

Severe tension is building in America. Rich versus non-rich. Religious versus non-religious.

With some help from the violent power of our local police force, Democrats and Republicans have been helping the rich defeat the non-rich. Every single motion our Congress makes, is made to the benefit of the rich, to the punishment of the non-rich.

Making things worse for the non-rich, the mainstream political class has taken away our voice and ridiculed us for demonstrating against the injustice. Whisteblowers are punished. Our most corrupt institutions NSA, FBI, CIA, DOJ, FDA, etc have been turned into bunkers against accountability.

All the well-know toxic ingredients for disparity and extremism are being dumped into a giant cauldron. Just how long do you think it can stay this way?

Is Wall Street going to rush in at the last minute and save us?

No. They'll happily sell weapons and chaos to both sides of the fight.

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Know Thy Enemy - Oligarchs, Corporations, Banks And Their Media Minions And MIC Henchmen cantbeserious Nov 2015 #1
Very good point and for the most part we do not know who jwirr Nov 2015 #22
Start With The Wealthiest - Work Down The List - Sooner Or Later - The 1% Evil Will End cantbeserious Nov 2015 #34
LOL Thanks. I will be there with you. jwirr Nov 2015 #35
Then add the collapse of Empire, when Climate Change kicks in even more villager Nov 2015 #2
I have the same expectation: a Soviet-style breakup. Lizzie Poppet Nov 2015 #6
Pretty much agree on all points, Lizzie Poppet... villager Nov 2015 #18
Retrotopia - A Fictionalized And Serialized - Future America - After The Civil Wars cantbeserious Nov 2015 #38
I always read the AR and am really enjoying this story. I wish I could live Nay Nov 2015 #56
Thank you for posting these Doremus Nov 2015 #58
Always Welcome - Enjoy The Read - Enjoy The Reflection cantbeserious Nov 2015 #59
Could be right. My concern is some big natural disaster where factions fight for control. Hoyt Nov 2015 #3
This: CrispyQ Nov 2015 #4
I don't think conservatives have become emboldened. lovemydog Nov 2015 #122
Agreed. And as Villager points out... Lizzie Poppet Nov 2015 #5
We had a collective morality on the side of justice during first CW, this time whereisjustice Nov 2015 #13
A friend posted an image on FB of people fighting over TVs in some store. CrispyQ Nov 2015 #17
...unless they keep puttting Prosac in the French Fries at Mc Donalds. bvar22 Dec 2015 #164
I was just thinking about that after the crazy guy tried to blow up the PP building. Rex Nov 2015 #7
I don't believe there will be a civil war at all. Maybe some riots in some large Cities but no State Waldorf Nov 2015 #8
Texas would fight a war gainst the Union. So would most of South. whereisjustice Nov 2015 #14
I don't know about DC but I would be very willing to let them jwirr Nov 2015 #25
Washington D.C. is a fabulous city. lovemydog Nov 2015 #116
Texas would fight a war....so would the South??? bvar22 Nov 2015 #33
Oh, I don't know... With these, maybe? ChisolmTrailDem Nov 2015 #60
You DO know that ovr 1/2 the Personnel stationed at those bases... bvar22 Nov 2015 #98
This entire topic is patiently absurd CajunBlazer Nov 2015 #101
Then you know very little about Texas or Texans. bvar22 Nov 2015 #152
Wait a minute. bvar22 Nov 2015 #153
The people stationed at those places lovemydog Nov 2015 #117
...but would they attack the United States from inside Texas? bvar22 Dec 2015 #165
Considering how Jade Helm was viewed by many Texans you'd know I am close to the truth whereisjustice Nov 2015 #83
Pure fntasy. bvar22 Nov 2015 #92
Exactly. rjsquirrel Nov 2015 #151
North East and Eastern Texas could feed itself, bvar22 Nov 2015 #156
Do you really believe that all those Bases you listed are Full to the Brim with Secessionists ? whereisjustice Dec 2015 #170
I agree with you on this one. Americans are too complacent, fat, and lazy to fight a civil war. cherokeeprogressive Nov 2015 #62
You think taking up arms against citizens of another State is better???? Waldorf Nov 2015 #64
I wasn't aware I proposed or supported any such thing. cherokeeprogressive Nov 2015 #66
Personally, I am working on my emigration plan. PowerToThePeople Nov 2015 #9
In 2006, my wife & I considered leaving the country, but immigration is difficult at our age. bvar22 Nov 2015 #36
I worked with American ex pats in Latin America COLGATE4 Nov 2015 #121
I had to see it to believe it. bvar22 Nov 2015 #159
I know the fer de lance. In Colombia COLGATE4 Dec 2015 #161
The Tweets will fly fast and furious. NobodyHere Nov 2015 #10
Until a bunch of people with guns start shooting up the place. whereisjustice Nov 2015 #15
They seem to be doing a bang up job of that already. We had another shooting here in Colorado Autumn Nov 2015 #20
Slaves Vs. Slaves 99th_Monkey Nov 2015 #11
I've been saying that since Bush's second term. Initech Nov 2015 #12
yes. n/t chervilant Nov 2015 #44
I am not sure 'civil war' is the completely correct term here. PatrickforO Nov 2015 #16
Thanks for this, well said. I see a difference though - the disparity in Germany was between whereisjustice Nov 2015 #21
Your reply has truly grim implications. PatrickforO Nov 2015 #29
Yep, we who don't fit either side will be targets zeemike Nov 2015 #51
Heh. Bohemians don't fare all that well in civil war. Eleanors38 Nov 2015 #94
Everything rotten that we see today has a single root cause - capitalism. hifiguy Nov 2015 #50
I agree with you. PatrickforO Nov 2015 #55
Capitalism is better than Feudalism or Slavery - nt KingCharlemagne Nov 2015 #137
Hmm. PatrickforO Nov 2015 #160
I'm a Democratic Socialist (a real one and not Sanders social democracy masquerading as such). No KingCharlemagne Dec 2015 #163
It's truly bizarre that intelligent, educated people slavishly embrace it ronnie624 Nov 2015 #82
Lenin also said the capitalists will sell us the rope with KingCharlemagne Nov 2015 #136
Um, no. lovemydog Nov 2015 #124
I agree with most, exceot the inevitability of successions. bvar22 Dec 2015 #166
There won't be LittleBlue Nov 2015 #19
Anyone, can drum thier fingers on a table reallygosh Nov 2015 #79
Oh good gawd! leftofcool Nov 2015 #23
Run for the hills! lovemydog Nov 2015 #125
Does the FACT that 80% of the world's population live within 1 km of KingCharlemagne Nov 2015 #139
No. lovemydog Nov 2015 #158
No one on our side is that interested in fighting back Doctor_J Nov 2015 #24
We've pushed millions of fighters away from the Democratic Party, all Dem Leadership wants is whereisjustice Nov 2015 #27
Most younger people lovemydog Nov 2015 #126
It'd be short. Octafish Nov 2015 #26
I stopped pointing this out a while ago nadinbrzezinski Nov 2015 #28
I agree matt819 Nov 2015 #30
Hopefully Alaska will join Canada, Blue_In_AK Nov 2015 #31
I think Maine would work well as a part of Canada too. Zing Zing Zingbah Nov 2015 #130
I really doubt anything will happen lunatica Nov 2015 #32
That is why Bernie's political revolution is needed to stop the need for a full fledge revolution. Live and Learn Nov 2015 #37
Agreed. hifiguy Nov 2015 #46
Very true! nt Live and Learn Nov 2015 #49
No, actually there is not "a real possibility of another civil war in America". Nitram Nov 2015 #39
Disagree completely. It's not going to happen. Oneironaut Nov 2015 #40
A civil war between whom and whom? TeddyR Nov 2015 #41
Maybe Texas CajunBlazer Nov 2015 #72
Never going to happen Calista241 Nov 2015 #114
I know.... CajunBlazer Nov 2015 #135
what about our black and Latino brothers and sisters who live there? Should they be allowed free KingCharlemagne Nov 2015 #142
I am sure that can be arranged as a condition..... CajunBlazer Nov 2015 #148
I always reference Hurricane Katrina SadWingsOfDestiny Nov 2015 #42
I've been thinking for some time now that this country can not hifiguy Nov 2015 #43
the problem is the geography grasswire Nov 2015 #106
If Politics fail, war is the result AZ Progressive Nov 2015 #45
agree, politics is failing in this era of history. The upper class is doing well, so they are whereisjustice Nov 2015 #85
Very pithy post that highlights what so many try to sweep under the rug Populist_Prole Nov 2015 #47
It does seem like we are headed toward a crisis of some sort. Chemisse Nov 2015 #48
+1 ScreamingMeemie Nov 2015 #52
Concerned? Hell, I'm wondering what the hell is taking so long!! tabasco Nov 2015 #96
You are assuming that you are going to win a violent revolution 1939 Nov 2015 #119
The French Revolution witnessed the triumph of the bourgeoisie over the aristocracy KingCharlemagne Nov 2015 #145
The French Revolution 1939 Nov 2015 #154
But not beforebthe First and Second Estates of the ancien regime KingCharlemagne Dec 2015 #162
I'm not assuming shit tabasco Dec 2015 #168
Bring it mwrguy Nov 2015 #53
I sometimes feel that way. Lizzie Poppet Nov 2015 #54
Lol DashOneBravo Nov 2015 #87
It's just a matter of time. deathrind Nov 2015 #57
This is laughable. You think there will be a war where liberals and conservatives fight? Township75 Nov 2015 #61
No one loves the.... Fla_Democrat Nov 2015 #65
But they will never vanquish the cowbell circle. On tablet so KingCharlemagne Nov 2015 #146
Civil war LOL. More like a boycott-a-palooza. cherokeeprogressive Nov 2015 #63
That was said before the last civil war. Extreme political figures like Trump, Cruz et al reliably whereisjustice Nov 2015 #67
Yep, can't wait to see far left liberals packing AK-47's. (n/t) CajunBlazer Nov 2015 #73
That was more or less the sentiment before the last civil war. Those elite Quaker yankees whereisjustice Nov 2015 #75
Sure liberals will fight back if attacked... CajunBlazer Nov 2015 #93
Thanks, I'll check out your blog. lovemydog Nov 2015 #127
Nebraska is closing the borders now, bvar22 Dec 2015 #171
+Infinity! - nt KingCharlemagne Nov 2015 #147
Or a war to out Twitter or Comment the opposing side Township75 Nov 2015 #68
+1 JustAnotherGen Nov 2015 #88
I am always highly suspect of people who push fear and doom. Bluenorthwest Nov 2015 #69
Who is pushing fear? You think the path the US is on is sustainable? You want to avoid the whereisjustice Nov 2015 #77
You claim history is on your side.... CajunBlazer Nov 2015 #100
A civil war? Give me a fricking break! CajunBlazer Nov 2015 #70
when you hurl the term "far left" at those who rec'd this, you gave yourself away as just another whereisjustice Nov 2015 #80
Yup nt artislife Nov 2015 #86
Again you make absolutely no sense! CajunBlazer Nov 2015 #91
+1 lovemydog Nov 2015 #129
+2. I've noticed something Populist_Prole Nov 2015 #95
No, Fear mongering is ultra conservative tactic that is best .... CajunBlazer Nov 2015 #99
Sorry, I disagree with your view Populist_Prole Nov 2015 #107
Well writen, but off topic CajunBlazer Nov 2015 #143
I disagree. lovemydog Nov 2015 #131
Bingo!!! CajunBlazer Nov 2015 #138
FWIW... Lizzie Poppet Nov 2015 #97
Agree. lovemydog Nov 2015 #112
Good post Kilgore Nov 2015 #128
Damn, I like your style! CajunBlazer Nov 2015 #144
Another? KamaAina Nov 2015 #71
Very true. Confederate flag is used today as a warning to the North that it never really ended. whereisjustice Nov 2015 #84
Wouldn't there be a little problem the 1st Admendment that ..... CajunBlazer Nov 2015 #102
LOL joshcryer Nov 2015 #74
internet warrior JI7 Nov 2015 #76
insipid remark whereisjustice Nov 2015 #78
Over the top origianal post. CajunBlazer Nov 2015 #103
Lol whut? rjsquirrel Nov 2015 #81
Bullshit of the highest order. Inkfreak Nov 2015 #89
No aliens will not come in peace..... CajunBlazer Nov 2015 #104
Totally disagree, they will come to Serve Man Kilgore Nov 2015 #109
While I agree with your sentiment.. Docreed2003 Nov 2015 #105
Southern Democrats 1939 Nov 2015 #120
Bookmarking so I can check against what happens every two years. Katashi_itto Nov 2015 #90
No way, instead we will..... Kilgore Nov 2015 #108
Agree one hundred percent lovemydog Nov 2015 #110
Why thank you Kilgore Nov 2015 #111
Ah yes, Kilgore Trout. lovemydog Nov 2015 #113
Instead People get distracted by stuff like this Kilgore Nov 2015 #115
Thanks everyone for one of the funniest threads I've ever read lovemydog Nov 2015 #118
At this point the country would probably be better off splitting in two. Vinca Nov 2015 #123
A civil war can happen anywhere. Not sure the point of this. MillennialDem Nov 2015 #132
You fail to appreciate that there is a power vacuum in the GOP, as well. No one is in charge. randome Nov 2015 #133
I've heard this before..."how could a B movie actor become President...?" First Speaker Nov 2015 #155
There's a war going on now. lovemydog Nov 2015 #134
All I really know in one sentence. ananda Nov 2015 #140
Uh huh... brooklynite Nov 2015 #141
Great post. I hope people understand that Vern and Merle Klandude Zorra Nov 2015 #149
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2015 #150
I don't know about "civil war"...but we are facing a supreme political crisis in this country... First Speaker Nov 2015 #157
We're insular, we're content, we're complacent and we're privileged. LanternWaste Dec 2015 #167
My Pacifist U.S.A. and Civil War time ancestors fled. They walked away from troubles, northwest. hunter Dec 2015 #169
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