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SecularMotion

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11. Wrong again

Sun Oct 18, 2015, 10:24 AM

Oct 2015

The ACLU has often been criticized for “ignoring the Second Amendment,” and refusing to fight for an individual’s right to own a gun or other weapons. The ACLU, however, has not ignored this issue. The national ACLU Board of Directors has in fact discussed the civil liberties aspects of the Second Amendment many times. We believe that the constitutional right to bear arms is primarily a collective one, intended mainly to protect the right of the states to maintain militias to assure their own freedom and security against the central government. In today’s world, that idea is somewhat anachronistic and in any case would require weapons much more powerful than handguns or hunting rifles. The ACLU therefore believes that the Second Amendment does not confer an unlimited right upon individuals to own guns or other weapons nor does it prohibit reasonable regulation of gun ownership, such as licensing and registration.

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What's Wrong With Gun Registration? [View all] SecularMotion Oct 2015 OP

What's wrong with voter ID? pipoman Oct 2015 #1

Because you "feel" more safe with a gun only indicates irrationality. LonePirate Oct 2015 #57

The argument is that it will lead to confiscation Recursion Oct 2015 #2

Are you aware of the fact that the ACLU is opposed to registration GGJohn Oct 2015 #5

I am. That's another reason I prefer licensure Recursion Oct 2015 #7

... GGJohn Oct 2015 #8

Yeah, I mentioned IL when I brought it up (nt) Recursion Oct 2015 #9

Yeah, I saw that and had a brain fart. GGJohn Oct 2015 #10

Illinois has had that for decades. Seems to have no effect on reducing crime or violence Lee-Lee Oct 2015 #42

Wrong again SecularMotion Oct 2015 #11

Wrong again. GGJohn Oct 2015 #12

From the ACLU website SecularMotion Oct 2015 #15

Notice you left this part out. GGJohn Oct 2015 #20

...... GGJohn Oct 2015 #3

nothing imo. nt restorefreedom Oct 2015 #4

Don't give them a reason... ileus Oct 2015 #6

I sometimes wonder if you get bored and search for articles written in april. Travis_0004 Oct 2015 #13

It's a good first step mwrguy Oct 2015 #14

The well-regulated militia, i.e., any nutjob off the street, would never hear of it! tabasco Oct 2015 #16

From the OP Kang Colby Oct 2015 #17

Gimme my guns!! Kingofalldems Oct 2015 #18

not a thing is wrong with registration.n/t PowerToThePeople Oct 2015 #19

Why do you think it's ok for the govt to know what weapons one owns? eom. GGJohn Oct 2015 #22

They know what cars I own PowerToThePeople Oct 2015 #23

Owning vehicles isn't an enumerated right, GGJohn Oct 2015 #25

Enumerated Right? -none Oct 2015 #29

Not true. GGJohn Oct 2015 #31

Because the newly formed nation could not afford a standing army and had to rely on State Militias. -none Oct 2015 #32

So they thought that the right to keep and bear arms was pretty important? eom. GGJohn Oct 2015 #34

Ever hear of the militia? -none Oct 2015 #36

Ever hear of Heller v DC? GGJohn Oct 2015 #37

You do not have to register Duckhunter935 Oct 2015 #40

why would it not be okay? Marrah_G Oct 2015 #51

Answer a question with a question? GGJohn Oct 2015 #54

Attempting to link registration with preventing Sandy Hook is bizarre aikoaiko Oct 2015 #21

If only Adam Lanza's guns were registered... Oh wait. Nt hack89 Oct 2015 #24

The same thing that's wrong with free speech zones. CanadaexPat Oct 2015 #26

The founders had all kinds of rules. gwheezie Oct 2015 #27

Here's one I read on DU: Kingofalldems Oct 2015 #28

All of our enumerated rights have limits etherealtruth Oct 2015 #30

I disagree. NutmegYankee Oct 2015 #33

Hmmmm, is it the governments right to know how many cars, boats, CNC machines, presses, farm equip etherealtruth Oct 2015 #35

Personal property is different from household property in taxes NutmegYankee Oct 2015 #38

That is correct ... however, it is still a limitation placed on your property etherealtruth Oct 2015 #41

The Constitutionality of laws on pets is questionable in some cases. NutmegYankee Oct 2015 #44

Unfortunatley, under BSL that is exactly what can happen etherealtruth Oct 2015 #46

The pitbull ban craze is just another classic "moral panic". NutmegYankee Oct 2015 #49

Huh? GGJohn Oct 2015 #39

Does Arrizona have personal property taxes? etherealtruth Oct 2015 #43

Vehicles are taxed as personal property only if they're registered and used on public roads, GGJohn Oct 2015 #45

Here is some info about personal property taxes etherealtruth Oct 2015 #48

Registration would be a huge expense and the money would have better impact used elsewhere Lee-Lee Oct 2015 #47

Fifth Amendment says that the very people barred from owning an item can't be forced to register it Lee-Lee Oct 2015 #50

That's a bad argument Scootaloo Oct 2015 #52

Tell me, then, how the registration will stop any crime? Lee-Lee Oct 2015 #53

No... It would perfectly target straw purchasers. Glassunion Oct 2015 #56

They don't prosecute or go after them now- spending billions on a database Lee-Lee Oct 2015 #59

Because the government cannot be trusted. Glassunion Oct 2015 #55

One thing gun registration would do gwheezie Oct 2015 #58

Locking after unanimous votes from hosts discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2015 #60