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13. Gun nut rationalization

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Sun Oct 4, 2015, 04:15 PM

Oct 2015

Fucking sickening.

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is there a difference between a campus shooting and a hospital bombing? [View all] reddread Oct 2015 OP

Really? You are having a "tough time" telling the difference between a targeted assault by MADem Oct 2015 #1

the shooter hit the wrong targets reddread Oct 2015 #3

I don't even know what you mean. I don't think death is something to snark about, but that's me. nt MADem Oct 2015 #5

So you're trolling melman Oct 2015 #37

What shooter do you mean? uppityperson Oct 2015 #74

It was not a mistake. FuzzyRabbit Oct 2015 #8

OK, what does "call the military" even mean, here? MADem Oct 2015 #10

Hanlon's razor branford Oct 2015 #14

That's where I'm at, right now. I'm open to hearing evidence to the contrary. MADem Oct 2015 #19

maybe the next Chelsea Manning will have something for you reddread Oct 2015 #21

That wouldn't be you, plainly. nt MADem Oct 2015 #41

Is there a specific diagnosis of his acute mental disorder? HereSince1628 Oct 2015 #31

Apparently, there was--according to his mother. MADem Oct 2015 #43

Yes I had seen that, it;s too nebulous to relate to a specific dx HereSince1628 Oct 2015 #45

It sounds to me as though his condition was chronic. Not a one-off, not a problem of brief duration MADem Oct 2015 #46

The problem he had in HS may not be the problem HereSince1628 Oct 2015 #48

Certainly, that's always possible. MADem Oct 2015 #59

I'd say there's a good probability based on a single known occurrence HereSince1628 Oct 2015 #62

He's probably had at least (conservatively) three psych evals. MADem Oct 2015 #63

Yes, but mental illness isn't' necessarily permanent HereSince1628 Oct 2015 #64

Bipolar disorder pretty much is, and it's more difficult to MADem Oct 2015 #69

All the 'dramatic' personality disorders are chronic/long lasting HereSince1628 Oct 2015 #71

It's speculation, certainly--but I'd put a few bucks down on being close, if not MADem Oct 2015 #72

I think the hospital bombing was intentional. alarimer Oct 2015 #65

I am afraid I don't agree with you. nt MADem Oct 2015 #66

Post removed Post removed Oct 2015 #80

If the latter happened here, we'd lose multiple Constitutional rights to prevent recurrence . . . Journeyman Oct 2015 #2

Ethically and morally... no. demmiblue Oct 2015 #4

Are you saying that the hospital was targeted? nt MADem Oct 2015 #6

Yes. n/t demmiblue Oct 2015 #7

I'd need to see some evidence of that. nt MADem Oct 2015 #11

That will never happen!!! atreides1 Oct 2015 #38

I do not know. There's much that hasn't been revealed. MADem Oct 2015 #47

There is no news reporting that substantiates your assertion. procon Oct 2015 #42

i read a post that Obama himself knew it was going on and told them to keep bombing.... spanone Oct 2015 #53

And does that sound even remotely logical anywhere other than a wingnut forum? nt procon Oct 2015 #56

Yes, absolutely it was targeted on purpose. FuzzyRabbit Oct 2015 #9

When you find proof of that, please post it. nt MADem Oct 2015 #12

I know how the our modern bombs work. FuzzyRabbit Oct 2015 #15

You are making a vast number of assumptions without offering any proof. MADem Oct 2015 #18

i think you are reddread Oct 2015 #20

The idea that the coordinates are programmed into the bomb is not always operative. MADem Oct 2015 #27

killing journalists, bombing al jazeera, striking hospitals, its all good. reddread Oct 2015 #28

If you think target error went away with GPS... EX500rider Oct 2015 #23

"very precisely hit" reddread Oct 2015 #25

"very precisely hit" How exactly is that determined? EX500rider Oct 2015 #77

Thank you for that elucidation. MADem Oct 2015 #39

War crimes are business as usual for the USA. roody Oct 2015 #68

Why would I encourage your thread derailment? MADem Oct 2015 #70

Gun nut rationalization trumad Oct 2015 #13

This. (nt) Control-Z Oct 2015 #16

not at all reddread Oct 2015 #17

Nailed it... SidDithers Oct 2015 #22

Well said! hrmjustin Oct 2015 #24

Your jury decision Generic Other Oct 2015 #30

+1. N/t obnoxiousdrunk Oct 2015 #73

+1 uponit7771 Oct 2015 #78

Depending on the culprit, motive, location, method & number hurt, the accountability is different. ancianita Oct 2015 #26

In a campus shooting, the shooters are called terrorists. rug Oct 2015 #29

Who is calling the doctors, nurses and patients terrorists? Its MSF, for goodness sake. MADem Oct 2015 #40

Not me. I didn't have a need for a DoD investigation before condemning it. rug Oct 2015 #49

Well, I don't think ANYONE is happy about this--that pilot is probably suicidal. nt MADem Oct 2015 #51

No, condlences were expressed, but not condemnations. rug Oct 2015 #52

Investigations are par for the course. If you have any sort of "incident" in flight, there's an MADem Oct 2015 #55

Mass murder is mass murder. cwydro Oct 2015 #32

Precisely FlatBaroque Oct 2015 #33

and paid for by the taxpayers and victims reddread Oct 2015 #34

The hospital bombers get medals. WinkyDink Oct 2015 #35

Really? If you have to ask, your problems are deeper than you've mentioned. procon Oct 2015 #36

From a black and white... deathrind Oct 2015 #44

They're both accountable but not necessarily deliberate lunatica Oct 2015 #50

Yeah. If the campus shooter had lived and been captured he'd have been prosecuted. Tierra_y_Libertad Oct 2015 #54

the corpses are not likely interested in the fine points of the discussion nt msongs Oct 2015 #57

There won't be closure of any kind with the hospital mass-murder. cpwm17 Oct 2015 #58

The latter begets the former. CanadaexPat Oct 2015 #60

Sure, one goes BOOM and the other goes POW POW POW! Guess which is which. Rex Oct 2015 #61

A similarity. They both came from our violent culture. roody Oct 2015 #67

The biggest difference is that no one is outraged by the hospital bombing. Nt Logical Oct 2015 #75

I'll try. The number of people and factors involved, and the intention. uppityperson Oct 2015 #76

Is there any difference between a car accident and genocide? Democat Oct 2015 #79

With a campus shooting Flying Squirrel Oct 2015 #81

Not to the dead, there isn't. Lizzie Poppet Oct 2015 #82

Kick demmiblue Oct 2015 #83