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kpete

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Sun Oct 4, 2015, 11:08 AM Oct 2015

Shooter's Dad: “If Chris hadn’t been able to get ahold of 13 guns, this never would have happened” [View all]

Mercer went on to wonder with regards to his son, “How on earth did he compile 13 guns?”

That’s just the thing. It seems that the guns were legally purchased. This obviously deranged individual had access to guns that he never should have had. In this version of the NRA’s America, these things happen because we live in a culture where people believe that anyone and everyone should be able to get as many guns as they want, as often as they want, whenever they want. To that end, we have the Chris Harper Mercers of the world shooting places up when their already fragile minds finally snap.

Perhaps the most powerful part of the interview you’re about to watch is the fact that it is the shooter’s father calling for gun control. While he makes it clear he does not blame gun laws on what his son did, Ian Mercer did have this to say:

“If Chris hadn’t been able to get ahold of 13 guns, this never would have happened.”

He later added, “You have to ask that question, how was he able to compile that kind of arsenal?”

Exactly that. Chris Harper Mercer never should have had even one gun in his mental state, much less 13 of them.




Video & More:
http://www.addictinginfo.org/2015/10/04/oregon-shooters-father-speaks-how-on-earth-did-he-have-that-many-guns-video/

Thank you, Mr. Mercer, for saying what needs to be said during this difficult time. Hopefully, someone listens.
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I don't think it's quite so simple as that. Turbineguy Oct 2015 #1
A 26 year old person is responsible for his own actions. nt peace13 Oct 2015 #2
Family members should be able to petition for involuntary commitment pipoman Oct 2015 #9
This is not a good idea, lots of anti gay bigot parents already try to do this to their gay kids MillennialDem Oct 2015 #19
Obviously a mental health professional would ultimately have to agree the person pipoman Oct 2015 #43
Getting a family member into the hospital for mental health issues is very difficult. peace13 Oct 2015 #21
+1 nt Live and Learn Oct 2015 #23
I think they shoot up schools because schools are a public space YoungDemCA Oct 2015 #25
Schools are a rough place for people who don't fit into rigid social strata jmowreader Oct 2015 #33
we home schooled for 8 years. never had a conversation w a stranger mopinko Oct 2015 #36
Exactly the point pipoman Oct 2015 #44
This is this so heartbreaking madokie Oct 2015 #68
What do you mean "should" be able to? Is that not an option in Oregon? paparush Oct 2015 #83
The current standard for commitment requires a dead body Thunderbeast Oct 2015 #86
Then why don't we put bank$ter/donors in jail? n/t jtuck004 Oct 2015 #41
I agree. Somehow I'm not so sure dads as naive as he claims yeoman6987 Oct 2015 #3
Exactly. What did he do to try to stop his son pintobean Oct 2015 #7
How was the father to know he had that number of weapons? LiberalArkie Oct 2015 #11
26 years old and living independently in another state - TBF Oct 2015 #13
Yes, and yes. pintobean Oct 2015 #17
Lived with his mom who bragged on Facebook about her open carry. She would know Person 2713 Oct 2015 #91
What precisely should he have then done? LanternWaste Oct 2015 #74
How is he responsible? NutmegYankee Oct 2015 #10
Guilt. He's full of it. elehhhhna Oct 2015 #14
And you're full of sh/it. The father of an independent child is no more guilty than you. erronis Oct 2015 #22
Uh, I think she meant the father has a guilty conscience. louis-t Oct 2015 #54
And if so, I definitely apologize! erronis Oct 2015 #61
Did say his guilt is justified elehhhhna Oct 2015 #65
I've been doing a lot of reading Turbineguy Oct 2015 #30
you think the father is more to blame than the people who sold/gave him the guns? Doctor_J Oct 2015 #16
Precisely what responsibility should "dear old dad" hold?" LanternWaste Oct 2015 #73
Finally a sensible response. librechik Oct 2015 #4
It doesn't take 13 guns, one will do pipoman Oct 2015 #5
But more than one gun is starting to get into the "this gun yahoo has a problem" realm. 13 is way Hoyt Oct 2015 #37
Nonsense...it only takes one...692 in one's possession and only one can be used at a time pipoman Oct 2015 #46
Sooner or later those gunz will be sold, stolen, given, or distributed to others. Hoyt Oct 2015 #48
So? pipoman Oct 2015 #49
Fact is 13 gunz is symtomatic of psychological issues that Hoyt Oct 2015 #50
And that is a complete lie...in fact making shit up is indicative of mental illness.. pipoman Oct 2015 #51
Well, you said you only need one. So why does some yahoo feel like they need 13? Hoyt Oct 2015 #52
More lies...I said a person can only use one at a time... pipoman Oct 2015 #53
I can tell you as a former mental health worker.. paparush Oct 2015 #84
Could you kindly provide the scholarly studies supporting such a generalized diagnosis, branford Oct 2015 #55
You have any that proves my opinion is wrong. Christ, you are sounding like a typical NRA gun yahoo. Hoyt Oct 2015 #58
You offered a purported statement of fact concerning a highly specialized branford Oct 2015 #59
I'm curious why you use a "z" instead of an "s"? cwydro Oct 2015 #62
That's the hip thing to do on internet, or maybe it's derision. Hoyt Oct 2015 #63
Ok, maybe it is hip because I see it a lot. cwydro Oct 2015 #64
In theory that sounds like a good idea. But reality..... Runningdawg Oct 2015 #45
Better the lunatic shooter than 20 non lunatic innocents imho pipoman Oct 2015 #47
So what his solution Duckhunter935 Oct 2015 #6
Some of the guns in the home were his mom's Nevernose Oct 2015 #8
If some of the guns used were the mother's she should be charged as an accessory. mainstreetonce Oct 2015 #28
Yep. They need to go after gun owners no matter what, or they will continue to be irresponsible. bettyellen Oct 2015 #60
The NRA Should Be Charged! NonMetro Oct 2015 #81
How they got their guns. LiberalArkie Oct 2015 #12
quite a few of them might have been caught with a more efficient system treestar Oct 2015 #18
Would this tragedy have occurred any differently if the shooter only owned one gun? nt branford Oct 2015 #15
It would have happened if he got hold of one gun. JohnnyRingo Oct 2015 #20
Absolutely. You beat me to it. ONE gun would have been enough. nt ancianita Oct 2015 #24
I think you hit the nail on the head. Gun nuts with psychological problems erronis Oct 2015 #26
Where is the mother? SoapBox Oct 2015 #27
She is busy buying all the guns she can get Person 2713 Oct 2015 #92
Wasn't his mother taking him to gun ranges for target practice, even Baitball Blogger Oct 2015 #29
Maybe we need to face the fact that unlike Norway the collective mental health of the US raindaddy Oct 2015 #31
His dear MOTHER took him target shooting, bought him guns Dems to Win Oct 2015 #32
Yep, his Mom was the HOW underpants Oct 2015 #34
Same scenario as the Sandy Hook shooter's mom. SunSeeker Oct 2015 #38
Well isn't he just the simple, naive furrner. Crunchy Frog Oct 2015 #35
What a tool... TipTok Oct 2015 #39
If he had no guns and no access to guns, Darb Oct 2015 #87
His dad was not in his son's life. He lived with his mother who is a nurse and a radical gun owner. rladdi Oct 2015 #40
Its easier to buy deadly weapons than it is to buy beer and cigarettes workinclasszero Oct 2015 #42
No its not. Waldorf Oct 2015 #57
26 years old, but lived with his mother in 2013..... IcyPeas Oct 2015 #56
My question to him is / where were you? LukeFL Oct 2015 #66
The son was 26 AndreaCG Oct 2015 #70
Well the dad pissed off a lot of gun humpers. Rex Oct 2015 #67
It would have still happened. oneshooter Oct 2015 #69
the nra would have killers have hundreds of guns. patsimp Oct 2015 #71
How would keeping guns from mentally ill people work? Elmergantry Oct 2015 #72
What if he'd only got one??? ileus Oct 2015 #75
+13 n/t ejbr Oct 2015 #77
He took 6 to school that day. Darb Oct 2015 #88
The blowhole at VT killed 32: One gun with standard magazines. Eleanors38 Oct 2015 #95
And the Redskins suck and Darb Oct 2015 #89
2 and 2 isn't bad for the skins. ileus Oct 2015 #90
And yet family member of killed 8 yr old in TN says guns are not the problem SIGH randys1 Oct 2015 #76
We should get closer to the full second amendment - OhZone Oct 2015 #78
I don't believe that he didn't know that his son's mother malaise Oct 2015 #79
Neither Can I! NonMetro Oct 2015 #80
Wow --amazing statement marions ghost Oct 2015 #82
So what exactly humbled_opinion Oct 2015 #85
Where's mom hiding out? Ms. "AR-15 as Fashion Accessory?" Why hasn't the NRA trotted her out catbyte Oct 2015 #93
Did he use all 13? Eleanors38 Oct 2015 #94
Thanks a lot MOM... penndragon69 Oct 2015 #96
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