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dumbcat

(2,120 posts)
Fri Oct 2, 2015, 05:00 PM Oct 2015

There is only one solution to these young, crazy shooters [View all]

Most of these non-terrorist, crazy mass shooters are fairly young, and after the fact are always described as loners, misfits, depressed, anti-social, etc. Yet they haven't done anything yet that would prohibit them from legally obtaining a gun. But, there were "warning signs" if only someone had noticed and "done something" about it.

So how about every year, starting in Jr high school, there is a survey of all the students where they have to rank all their classmates on a social acceptance scale? Yes, it would be something like a popularity contest. Each student would have to rate each of their classmates in several categories and rank them on a scale. Students would be able to comment on who is "weird, a loner, a misfit, creepy, anti-social," etc. After all, who would observe and recognize the "warning signs" better than their peers? School authorities would turn these survey results over to qualified psychiatric panels who would evaluate and identify students that "bear watching." If someone is consistently ranked "weird" or "creepy" by their peers they would get further scrutiny. Finally, at the end of high school, where most people are legally eligible to legally buy weapons, the authorities could put the ones that consistently ranked as loners, misfits, and losers in a Federal database that would prohibit them from ever passing a background check and obtaining a weapon from an FFL. If the UBCs are expanded to all sales, including private sales, it would preclude many of these mass shooters from obtaining a firearm.

That is a way to identify and do something about all these young misfits that turn into mass killers even though they haven't done anything criminal yet. At least it is a way to do something that could pass constitutional muster and every elected representative should be OK with it.

What do you think?

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Big Brother spy on your neighbor. Dont call me Shirley Oct 2015 #1
Wow (nt) Recursion Oct 2015 #2
I can not find the words to convery the pure DISGUST I have for this... Shandris Oct 2015 #3
How to further ostracize the already marginalized, yeah what a great idea. Not. nt Electric Monk Oct 2015 #4
The solution to this is NOT further ostracization of already alienated people YoungDemCA Oct 2015 #5
Horribly bad idea, but at least you're trying to find a solution. PSPS Oct 2015 #6
Your proposal would definitely NOT pass constitutional muster under multiple theories. branford Oct 2015 #7
you have an interesting point olddots Oct 2015 #8
haha... dhill926 Oct 2015 #43
Good one dumbcat Oct 2015 #49
Unrec Erose999 Oct 2015 #9
Maybe the OP should consider another line of thought than providing "solutions". nt PufPuf23 Oct 2015 #10
ROFLMAO. Brickbat Oct 2015 #11
I don't see how THAT would pass constitutional muster"! nt tblue37 Oct 2015 #12
Wow TubbersUK Oct 2015 #13
Never trust anyone under 30 Go Vols Oct 2015 #14
Welcome to my Forever Ignored pile. nt valerief Oct 2015 #15
Repulsive idea. First you all praise anti gay preachers here now this shit? Bluenorthwest Oct 2015 #16
I praised anti-gay preachers? dumbcat Oct 2015 #32
lol of course that poster is going to make it about you treestar Oct 2015 #37
I suspect about half of DU would be put in the "bear watching" category Fumesucker Oct 2015 #17
I think you should delete this. n/t cpwm17 Oct 2015 #18
Boy, they would have pointed at me in high school. Loner, funny looking, etc. Shrike47 Oct 2015 #19
Obvious poster is obvious CreekDog Oct 2015 #20
This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Oct 2015 #21
Wow, you came up with a way to make high school suck even more for awkward kids. Throd Oct 2015 #22
Speaking as a mother who has two children on the autism spectrum... AngryOldDem Oct 2015 #23
Thank you. SheilaT Oct 2015 #78
Should people with autism be allowed to buy guns? Jesus Malverde Oct 2015 #79
Profiling at its worst. Many of the greatest minds in human history were antisocial, misfit loners. Xithras Oct 2015 #24
Welcome to Distopia! WillowTree Oct 2015 #25
I hate to envoke Godwin's Law here... But holy crap. Glassunion Oct 2015 #26
So nobody thinks this is a good idea? dumbcat Oct 2015 #27
Nope sarisataka Oct 2015 #35
I think your user name was a good idea. eom cwydro Oct 2015 #41
NO!!!!!! nt geek tragedy Oct 2015 #46
Do you like Ichigo Kurosaki Oct 2015 #54
Have teens decide who will be dangerous for their entire lives? Fuck no. uppityperson Oct 2015 #64
This falls more under "people regulation" than gun regulation, Crunchy Frog Oct 2015 #72
Perhaps legit psychological exams freeplessinseattle Oct 2015 #80
You don't want to know what I think. Iggo Oct 2015 #28
I think your proposal is far too modest. These losers and loners--once identified petronius Oct 2015 #29
Thank you! cwydro Oct 2015 #40
You provide the OP with a Swift kick in the pants Generic Other Oct 2015 #55
We have something similar. It is part of a federal mental health block grant I work with these grant upaloopa Oct 2015 #30
My DW wrote their MH grant for her FQHC, it netted 210k/yr for her clinic. ileus Oct 2015 #59
I hope this ends up being a helpful program and that it Mojorabbit Oct 2015 #61
I see a huge difference between teens being part of the treatment process and being diagnosticians. uppityperson Oct 2015 #65
This program trains peers to spot others with upaloopa Oct 2015 #67
That sounds much better than what the OP is proposing. uppityperson Oct 2015 #70
Regulation via popularity contest?! mac56 Oct 2015 #31
Great. Give even more power to bullies. onenote Oct 2015 #33
Are they avoided because they are weird, or weird because they are avoided? Lancero Oct 2015 #34
You've given me an idea treestar Oct 2015 #36
Since the starting age for male members of the militia is 17, branford Oct 2015 #38
Exceptions for the military treestar Oct 2015 #84
Um, no. cwydro Oct 2015 #39
What a great idea! Ms. Yertle Oct 2015 #42
Your abridged post might read: edgineered Oct 2015 #44
Why don't we simply exterminate them all? (sarcasm) LiberalEsto Oct 2015 #45
This may be the most Big Brother thing I've ever read on DU sub.theory Oct 2015 #47
Well, I must say dumbcat Oct 2015 #48
Ah, so only the popular kids could buy guns? MineralMan Oct 2015 #50
just get rid of the guns madokie Oct 2015 #51
I remember in graduate school learning d_r Oct 2015 #52
I'd be on that list vankuria Oct 2015 #53
This is either Jonathon Swift "A Modest Proposal" level satire, OR NutmegYankee Oct 2015 #56
And this strikes you as a better idea than gun control? villager Oct 2015 #57
maybe a better idea KT2000 Oct 2015 #58
Ooooooooh! Co-signers! I like it! Iggo Oct 2015 #60
Asking the blind to lead the blind. Not much validity or reliability to it, on first glance. ancianita Oct 2015 #62
Poor logic is "because most school mass murderers are loners, misfits, misfits and loners are mass uppityperson Oct 2015 #63
As a means of stopping mass shootings while still preserving liberty Crunchy Frog Oct 2015 #66
Giving 13 yr olds the ability to decide who should ever be able to legally own a gun based on popula uppityperson Oct 2015 #69
Are you familiar with "A Modest Proposal" by Jonathan Swift? Crunchy Frog Oct 2015 #71
I've not read that, sorry. There will be people saying all sorts of things on this board, including uppityperson Oct 2015 #73
How bout we help the misfits and loners NobodyHere Oct 2015 #68
And how many "anti-social" "weird" "loners" with autism would be scooped up pnwmom Oct 2015 #74
like all of 'em, essentially. Warren DeMontague Oct 2015 #82
Seems like I remember such a "rating" system way back in the dark ages Grammy23 Oct 2015 #75
OP is taking y'all for a ride. The point is "If you oppose this, you also MUST oppose new gun laws!" alcibiades_mystery Oct 2015 #76
When I think of folks who have really solid decision making skills... TipTok Oct 2015 #77
yes, ostracize anyone perceived as "different". That's a GREAT idea! Warren DeMontague Oct 2015 #81
Most people, after reading these replies, would self delete this post. Just an idea. nt Logical Oct 2015 #83
Most people wouldn't have even come up with freeplessinseattle Oct 2015 #85
I think you are missing the point dumbcat Oct 2015 #86
Nice try! nt Logical Oct 2015 #87
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