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MadHound

(34,179 posts)
Wed May 23, 2012, 12:16 PM May 2012

So, who, and how, does the administration decide to kill this week? [View all]

"US officials with firsthand knowledge of how the government determines who gets put on the CIA and Pentagon's lists for 'targeted killing' have confessed concern over the implications and nature of the process. In conversations with the Associated Press, one official involved -- who spoke with assurances of anonymity -- said that some of those carrying out the policy have become leery of "how easy it has become to kill someone," under the rules established under the Obama administration and orchestrated by Obama's top counter-terrorism adviser, John Brennan.
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Needless to say, all of this takes place in total secrecy, with no legal framework and no oversight of any kind. Indeed, even after they had Brennan publicly defend the CIA drone program, the Obama administration continue to insist in federal court that the program is too secretive even to confirm its existence. It’s just a tiny cadre of National Security State officials who decide, in the dark, whom they want dead, and then — once the President signs off — it is done. This is the Change with which the 2009 Nobel Peace Prize laureate has gifted us: ”some of the officials carrying out the policy are equally leery of ‘how easy it has become to kill someone."
http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2012/05/22-2

Sorry, but there is no defense for these kinds of actions, none. The real scary part about this is that these Obama administration programs are laying the groundwork for this assassination program to come home to America. We already have drones taking to the skies over this country, how long before we start seeing those drones armed and targeting American citizens in this country?

What have we come to, where it is now normal to have weekly meetings behind closed doors, where it is decided who lives and who dies, whether you are an American citizen or not.

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Oh, that administration. I thought you meant Skinner and EarlG. Warren Stupidity May 2012 #1
ROFL Scurrilous May 2012 #2
No, but that might be my next post in Meta MadHound May 2012 #4
outrage required..even here..even in an election season..nt xiamiam May 2012 #3
Ah, so we should only be outraged about illegal, unconstitutional assassinations MadHound May 2012 #5
not me..i didn't use the sarcasm thingy..i'm disgusted with it xiamiam May 2012 #13
Idiotic speculation: "Obama administration programs are laying the groundwork for this FSogol May 2012 #6
Actually I think it is a rather logical progression, MadHound May 2012 #7
As opposed to the less costly method of sending an officer out to arrest them? FSogol May 2012 #11
if you believe that what the hell are you doing voting for President Obama? cali May 2012 #19
Post removed Post removed May 2012 #53
Sounds like the nonsense spewed by Alex Jones. kestrel91316 May 2012 #8
Assassinating American citizens seems to be ok, as long as truth2power May 2012 #12
No really that is not idiotic at all. Warren Stupidity May 2012 #9
Oh, no, not so fast FSogol: The Obama administration's programs ARE laying a groundwork... Poll_Blind May 2012 #14
excellent observations xiamiam May 2012 #16
I think indefinate detention is right up there with using drones in US skys. nm rhett o rick May 2012 #17
A couple of points. FSogol May 2012 #18
I'm familiar with those talking points because they were used to defend Bush just a few... Poll_Blind May 2012 #20
Well done. A couple of straw man arguments and a few insults. FSogol May 2012 #21
If anyone is peddling straw whatchamacallit May 2012 #23
So, uh, no actual response or rebuttal to my points then? Just an emote icon and snark? Poll_Blind May 2012 #26
You're the one slinging insults. Why should I bother? FSogol May 2012 #30
you started out with "idiotic speculation", really hard to take seriously your complaint of slinging Warren Stupidity May 2012 #45
Yes! whatchamacallit May 2012 #22
you are wrong about rt..you obviously dont watch or you wouldnt call them piss poor xiamiam May 2012 #60
Huh? I can't find that quote anywhere in the article. Luminous Animal May 2012 #36
It is in the OP. FSogol May 2012 #37
Ah, I got confused because later you referred to the "clowns at Commondreams" so I thought Luminous Animal May 2012 #42
Of course there should be more oversight. randome May 2012 #10
You can tell from the misplaced focus and priorities of many in this forum whatchamacallit May 2012 #15
Who would a Romney administration want to kill? He says Russia is our biggest enemy. pnwmom May 2012 #24
More bizarre equivocation. Don't hold Obama accountable because Romney would be worse? Poll_Blind May 2012 #25
I think attacks on Obama like this can wait till after the election. Priorities, people! pnwmom May 2012 #28
And what the hell are you doing besides trying to stifle discussion in Obama's name? Poll_Blind May 2012 #32
Someone alerted on your post - Jury voted 1-5 to LEAVE IT. bananas May 2012 #43
You are trying to shut me up -- what's the difference? pnwmom May 2012 #47
You come into this thread not to disagree but to shut it down. Fuck that. Poll_Blind May 2012 #48
I explained that this isn't about facts, it's about rumors pushed by anonymous sources. pnwmom May 2012 #50
So you are saying that Kimberly Dozier of AP is lying about talking with Sr. Admin officials? Luminous Animal May 2012 #58
What reason would a reporter have to lie or bolster a story? SunsetDreams May 2012 #62
Holding a public servant accountable is the responsibility of the people in a democracy. Tierra_y_Libertad May 2012 #27
We're in the middle of an election campaign. Attacks on Obama can wait. pnwmom May 2012 #29
So, we should just ignore crimes against humanity because their inconvenient or embarrassing? Tierra_y_Libertad May 2012 #31
You're certainly not doing anything about it by posting here. randome May 2012 #34
I'm certainly not "afraid". Tierra_y_Libertad May 2012 #38
Yeah, I do. randome May 2012 #39
You mean, rumors about crimes against humanity? Because that's all this is. n/t pnwmom May 2012 #41
Uh? Civilians AREN'T being killed by drones? And there is no assassinations program? Luminous Animal May 2012 #59
"Attacks"? You wish. All you want to do is shut down discussion and play sheriff. Poll_Blind May 2012 #35
I'm not playing Sheriff; I'm expressing my opinion, exactly the same as you are. pnwmom May 2012 #40
This is America, where it's always campaign season. Efilroft Sul May 2012 #56
Meanwhile, how many more innocents will die? n/t MadHound May 2012 #61
He would probably kill the same kind of people that the Bush and Obama administrations killed Freddie Stubbs May 2012 #46
Horrors that somebody dares to criticize policy MadHound May 2012 #54
We don't torture. We assassinate. Luminous Animal May 2012 #33
hopefully the fucks that went after another girls school snooper2 May 2012 #44
True. I wouldn't mourn too hard for them. n/t pnwmom May 2012 #51
Let's not forget the innocents that die in these attacks MadHound May 2012 #55
And here I was, thinking they just spun the big Wheel of Misfortune NoPasaran May 2012 #49
You mean that it was okay that he got Bin Laden? pnwmom May 2012 #52
t3 spanone May 2012 #57
DU Rec. nt woo me with science May 2012 #63
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