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HuckleB

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24. Indeed. The attack in the OP is the actual unethical act here.

Sun Sep 13, 2015, 02:17 PM

Sep 2015

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http://theness.com/neurologicablog/index.php/how-to-attack-a-public-scientist/

In fact, it contains multiple deceitful and unethical attacks. It's absolutely horrific to see so many DUers support such ugliness blindly. This OP is no different than what Fox News produces, and the response it engenders. We should be deeply disturbed.

I won't respond to any more of this thread. I'm tired of seeing DU sink ever lower. It just sucks.

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University Scientists Caught Conspiring with Monsanto to Manipulate Public Opinion on GMOs [View all] RiverLover Sep 2015 OP

Good thing we have professor tenureship GummyBearz Sep 2015 #1

Tenure does not protect academic dishonesty. aikoaiko Sep 2015 #10

So why are these professors GummyBearz Sep 2015 #21

Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2015 #75

Not if those same scientists are bring in the big bucks with their research grants reformist2 Sep 2015 #26

Yes. It's a bit like the way that leagues looked the other way at steroid use. RufusTFirefly Sep 2015 #31

"My brother-in-law thinks he's Woody Allen. We'd have him committed, but we need tblue37 Sep 2015 #44

If the $$s coming into the Unis is significant, they will do everything they can erronis Sep 2015 #28

Same way PBS and NPR were corrupted... hunter Sep 2015 #46

I'd suggest you educate yourself about what tenure really is kiva Sep 2015 #12

I've seen it first hand GummyBearz Sep 2015 #20

The biggest factor these days in obtaining tenure is how much $$$ they can bring in. reformist2 Sep 2015 #27

Yes. Neo-liberalism has infected our entire system. n/t RufusTFirefly Sep 2015 #32

And I'm tenured faculty and have seen another kiva Sep 2015 #48

I've seen tenured faculty get fired too GummyBearz Sep 2015 #55

I'm on the other side of the school kiva Sep 2015 #67

Wow. I would think tenure would allow professors to reject this sort of money grubbing Ed Suspicious Sep 2015 #76

One would hope 2naSalit Sep 2015 #2

The public in general is pliable. And its easier to believe all those rampant chemicals dispersed RiverLover Sep 2015 #4

Went back to Iowa some years ago and driving along jwirr Sep 2015 #18

It does, and its fascinating RiverLover Sep 2015 #34

Thank you. One of the worst parts of this is that they jwirr Sep 2015 #37

This Ohio resident agrees. Enthusiast Sep 2015 #36

Algae bloom has nothing to do with GMOs. progressoid Sep 2015 #82

Even an article such as this libodem Sep 2015 #3

I'm sure they're on their way. Don't forget: the science, the science! n/t DFW Sep 2015 #5

Ah, yes libodem Sep 2015 #7

Science is self-correcting and the best methodology we have to find the truth. Gore1FL Sep 2015 #64

Mother may have made a nice Sunday dinner so it may be awhile before they get back downstairs Person 2713 Sep 2015 #62

OK, I'll bite. progressoid Sep 2015 #66

"They're Here!!!!" PatSeg Sep 2015 #72

Not surprising laundry_queen Sep 2015 #6

It is disappointing. And The Times story left out the fact that Monsanto has given $1 million RiverLover Sep 2015 #9

also $5.5 million to Cornell to go after "Right to Know" GreatGazoo Sep 2015 #41

I think some of those "think tanks" KT2000 Sep 2015 #15

They are laundry_queen Sep 2015 #17

Crapadaemia at its finest. Octafish Sep 2015 #8

that's just 'cuz y'all aren't starry-eyed enough: your disbelief will drag us into a new Dark Age! MisterP Sep 2015 #11

I've always found it interesting which multi conglomerates we are supposed to have faith in Rex Sep 2015 #13

"B-b-but muh science-based approach!" Shandris Sep 2015 #14

We are the only County in the U.S.... bkkyosemite Sep 2015 #16

K&R. The technique has worked well to prevent action on climate change. Overseas Sep 2015 #19

Neil Degrasse Tyson PatSeg Sep 2015 #22

NDT badly needs to be educated on this issue. Duppers Sep 2015 #50

They both should have known PatSeg Sep 2015 #56

Actually, it was getting educated on the issue, that caused him to support GMOs. progressoid Sep 2015 #68

Watch This Researcher PatSeg Sep 2015 #70

Jeffery Smith. LOL! progressoid Sep 2015 #73

Mockery, LOL PatSeg Sep 2015 #77

Yes, mockery. It's hard to take someone seriously who posits, progressoid Sep 2015 #81

Yeah those ignorant PHD bastids should listen to the great unwashed slanted luddites. CBGLuthier Sep 2015 #80

heck, had this been 1994 Tyson would never have told us to doubt corpo-funded science MisterP Sep 2015 #54

Really? PatSeg Sep 2015 #57

a lot of them do blame Seth MacFarlane for the fracas more than Tyson, who's not so "ideological" MisterP Sep 2015 #63

this is utter bull shit.... mike_c Sep 2015 #23

Indeed. The attack in the OP is the actual unethical act here. HuckleB Sep 2015 #24

The BS is Monanto & Bayer making million$ and not caring they're putting US & the environment RiverLover Sep 2015 #29

I shouldn't have to tell a college professor to brush up on the meaning of conspiracy. DisgustipatedinCA Sep 2015 #38

Just like grinding up old tires and spreading them on soccer fields? mhatrw Sep 2015 #39

Excellent point mhatrw. RiverLover Sep 2015 #49

Also from the NYT article DirkGently Sep 2015 #45

The "ALL GMOS GOOD! ALL OPPOSITION UNSCIENTIFIC!" chant doesn't work for me. hunter Sep 2015 #47

There is a clear conflict of interest when the researchers are benefiting financially pnwmom Sep 2015 #53

There's nothing wrong with corporations funding research on their products. RichVRichV Sep 2015 #60

Yeah, quid pro quo doesn't exist. nt Duppers Sep 2015 #74

Naomi Oreskes Merchants Of Doubt cantbeserious Sep 2015 #25

K & R. Thanks for the important reminder. Need to check this out, asap. appalachiablue Sep 2015 #30

Recommend a whole bunch! nt Zorra Sep 2015 #33

I know where ever you are on the internet be prepared to argue with paid sockpuppets Enthusiast Sep 2015 #35

Don't label them as paid shills. mhatrw Sep 2015 #40

True. Enthusiast Sep 2015 #43

Best comment of the thread!!!! PatSeg Sep 2015 #83

It doesn't pass the smell test. Like getting into a fist fight over Coke vs Pepsi, it only makes GoneFishin Sep 2015 #51

Why not just Ichigo Kurosaki Sep 2015 #58

I think people could go for that. It could be like "gluten-free", lol. Enthusiast Sep 2015 #59

Also they seem to working PatSeg Sep 2015 #71

I'm so glad others can see through this ruse. I encountered it during my earliest days on the net. Enthusiast Sep 2015 #78

I fell for their routines PatSeg Sep 2015 #79

"CONSPIRING." WinkyDink Sep 2015 #42

Big K & R Duppers Sep 2015 #52

For some reason they couldn't buy so many academics in Europe, China, etc. but here in NA hands out Person 2713 Sep 2015 #61

How do you know they couldn't buy academics in Europe, China, etc.? progressoid Sep 2015 #65

I wrote not so many (not enough to stop the current labeling laws ) although UK is readdressing Person 2713 Sep 2015 #69