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In reply to the discussion: Message auto-removed [View all]LonePirate
(13,419 posts)96. I certainly and proudly advocate the repeal of the 2A and the confiscation of all guns.
They have no place in a modern society.
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Congress could pass a new law on this issue. If objected to by some it goes to court and
riversedge
Aug 2015
#29
You need to research the difference between 'a law' and an enumerated civil right via the BoR.
AtheistCrusader
Aug 2015
#113
The supremes can overrule themselves. Most important reason to elect whoever the democratic nominee
MillennialDem
Aug 2015
#67
Potentially, but stare decisis suggests they wouldn't, Miller, Heller, MacDonald, etc.
AtheistCrusader
Aug 2015
#120
Suggests does not mean will or will not. Just likely. Not about gun rights but Lawrence v Texas over
MillennialDem
Aug 2015
#126
Meaningful gun reform could be accomplished many ways, without infringing on the 2nd amendment.
AtheistCrusader
Aug 2015
#128
only the idiot repug 5 supremes have done that. the decision can be changed by smarter
samsingh
Aug 2015
#123
And I have no doubt they'd change Roe v Wade if they replaced a liberal with a
MillennialDem
Aug 2015
#148
They'd challenge it. A challenge would be raised the same day. You bet.
AtheistCrusader
Aug 2015
#150
The Supreme Court also has held that slaves must be returned to their masters.
tabasco
Aug 2015
#157
Regulated is not the same as restricted -- which is all this is really about.
Nuclear Unicorn
Aug 2015
#2
They know this about Australia and profer the same tired ass'd arguments!!!
uponit7771
Aug 2015
#104
I think it's a good thing. I wholeheartedly encourage Washington to follow suit.
AtheistCrusader
Aug 2015
#133
Being in simple possession of a firearm with no serial number is a felony.
AtheistCrusader
Aug 2015
#193
Which I'm sure greatly concerns people already intending to commit felonies with said guns...
gcomeau
Aug 2015
#195
USDoJ estimates the lawful use of firearms in self defense against those robberies and assaults at
AtheistCrusader
Aug 2015
#206
Well then why are we restricting arms to what was essentially all that was available in
MillennialDem
Aug 2015
#72
Bullshit they aren't. Switchblades and butterfly knives are illegal (nearly) everywhere. Fixed blade
MillennialDem
Aug 2015
#86
It's possible to regulate guns, impossible to regulate knives. Plus everyone owns several knives,
MillennialDem
Aug 2015
#118
Sure you can bust people who are carrying a knife, but you can't really get rid of
MillennialDem
Aug 2015
#145
You still need the propellant. I know the gun itself isn't hard to make. I suppose you could make it
MillennialDem
Aug 2015
#158
Propellant isn't that hard if you're willing to compromise a bit on quality.
AtheistCrusader
Aug 2015
#161
It's not hard to make the primers, but it is hard not to blow your face off in the process. True.
AtheistCrusader
Aug 2015
#172
I don't know what else it's used for, but it seems like someone buying the sulfur and potassium nitr
MillennialDem
Aug 2015
#174
Sounds like a lot of arsing around and that a knife would be a lot more effective at that
MillennialDem
Aug 2015
#169
I think this is exactly why we have so many shootings and relatively few bombings. You can
MillennialDem
Aug 2015
#177
Sadly, the highest kill count of any school attack still belongs to explosives.
AtheistCrusader
Aug 2015
#185
I haven't said courts said otherwise. I still think it's bull. I think either the 2nd means
MillennialDem
Aug 2015
#136
I think privateers tried to make that distinction back in the day, as they liked to be armed.
AtheistCrusader
Aug 2015
#141
And that's just like, your opinion man. Sorry for being snarky but I do think the
MillennialDem
Aug 2015
#156
Well, my opinion AND the SC's opinion, and federal courts opinions and and and.
AtheistCrusader
Aug 2015
#162
When did I disagree that that's how the courts have ruled? I'm not a fact deprived conservative :p
MillennialDem
Aug 2015
#165
Adapting the 1st amendment to new technologies has likewise been a challenge.
thesquanderer
Aug 2015
#119
A semi-auto rifle existed prior to the ratification of our constitution.
AtheistCrusader
Aug 2015
#132
The 2nd has never been construed by any court to apply to ordnance and explosives.
AtheistCrusader
Aug 2015
#124
Go ahead and show me the person who can maintain, in working order, an atom bomb.
Nuclear Unicorn
Aug 2015
#221
"Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness" is in the Declaration of Independence not the
Nuclear Unicorn
Aug 2015
#220
Considering the Controllers portray gun owners as white male redneck fetishists the Controllers
Nuclear Unicorn
Aug 2015
#225
There's only a 20% delta between republican and democratic gun owners.
AtheistCrusader
Aug 2015
#142
So, you want the government to drastically cut the number of guns in this county?
krispos42
Aug 2015
#4
The state constitutions are eye-opening, and should inform any discussion of this issue.
reformist2
Aug 2015
#7
If the rethugs got their way and revoked Roe vs. Wade somehow, abortion would remain legal in my
AtheistCrusader
Aug 2015
#155
Prop 8 is a bad comparison, because it flew in the face of the 14th amendment.
AtheistCrusader
Aug 2015
#147
To heck with it. They want to repeal the 14th amendment. I want to repeal the 2nd.
Vinca
Aug 2015
#10
A 20 shot semi-auto existed 10 years before the ratification of the Bill of Rights.
AtheistCrusader
Aug 2015
#166
You are thinking in the here and now. Repealing the 2A might take 20-30 years or more.
LonePirate
Aug 2015
#80
I think you still don't grasp how the country is starting to change regarding this issue.
LonePirate
Aug 2015
#90
I havent' seen a single recent poll that indicates increased support for such a repeal.
Lizzie Poppet
Aug 2015
#114
There are very sound reasons to suspect those ownership polls are grossly inaccurate.
Lizzie Poppet
Aug 2015
#180
I certainly and proudly advocate the repeal of the 2A and the confiscation of all guns.
LonePirate
Aug 2015
#96
True progressives like myself are accustomed to holding extreme minority opinions.
LonePirate
Aug 2015
#102
You really think that gun owners are just going to sit idly by and let this happen?
GGJohn
Aug 2015
#89
When this country finally reaches a point where it repeals the 2A and confiscates guns ...
LonePirate
Aug 2015
#99
repeal of the 2nd A is a good idea, IMO. There are modern constitutional democracies in
CTyankee
Aug 2015
#44
"The 2A protects an individual right to keep and bear arms" - Democratic party platform. nt
hack89
Aug 2015
#13
Humanity evolving...how about that?? Guns evolving from muskets to assault rifles with 100 bullets ..how about that?
Fred Sanders
Aug 2015
#39
In terms of people, I believe "well regulated" also meant "well trained and organized." [n/t]
Maedhros
Aug 2015
#203
Ask the NRA why they removed those words from their display at national HQ? Kind of telling....
Fred Sanders
Aug 2015
#35
Because the rest of the Bill of Rights is not causing so many people to be killed, as the 2nd Amendm
-none
Aug 2015
#55
Meriwether Lewis was a civilian. He carried one on the Lewis and Clark expedition.
AtheistCrusader
Aug 2015
#186
None of those aspects have been repeated as issues related to civil rights expanded
AtheistCrusader
Aug 2015
#194
Which is all why the NRA stripped those words out of their display of the 2nd at their national HQ!!
Fred Sanders
Aug 2015
#33
Even if toting and arming up is a right, that doesn't mean one should be excused for anti-social
Hoyt
Aug 2015
#52
Surprised to see no one has mentioned the role state militias played in enforcing slavery
mnhtnbb
Aug 2015
#57
I was never taught this in school...and I went to school in NJ and CA...can imagine
mnhtnbb
Aug 2015
#61
and you can be assured that growing up in segregated schools in TX in the 1950s
CTyankee
Aug 2015
#65
Because white men decided to write the entire constitution around them.
mountain grammy
Aug 2015
#76
For such a large group of "terrorists," they sure don't kill very many people.
Lizzie Poppet
Aug 2015
#107
The British Bill of Rights of 1689 had a right to bear arms independent of militia service
hack89
Aug 2015
#146
You have to read the British Bill of Rights in its entirely to understand the "Defence" protected.
happyslug
Aug 2015
#197
Protestants were disarmed by the government as part of an organized repression of civil liberties
hack89
Aug 2015
#204
I can see how that can be interpreted to include open and/or concealed carry on campuses, in bars,
DrDan
Aug 2015
#110
"Well Regulated" = "Well Trained". Govt. regulations - especially federal - were almost
jonno99
Aug 2015
#188
Thanks for an informative response. It seems then that the phrase "well ORDERED" would
jonno99
Aug 2015
#201
101st Rec. That phrase jumped out & smacked me in the face the first time I read the Bill of Rights
Hekate
Aug 2015
#215