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In reply to the discussion: White American male with a weapon who believes in his own superiority kills in order to feel powerful [View all]Nuclear Unicorn
(19,497 posts)183. Society didn't run people down with a car -- a person did that.
Society did not tell that person to do it. Society created the police who arrested that person, the jails that will hold him, the courts in which he will be tried and the prison where he will be warehoused.
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gollygee
Jul 2015
OP
The other common factor in the vast majority, almost every one of these and thousands more, is The Gun.
Fred Sanders
Jul 2015
#2
The GUN turns HATE, intolerance, and prejudice into empowered HATE, intolerance, and prejudice. (nt)
stone space
Jul 2015
#7
Just like carrying a knife or any other weapon.. I suppose the intolerant or prejudiced would feel e
darkangel218
Jul 2015
#10
The GUN turns the hate, prejudice, mental instability, etc., into murder and maiming. The GUN makes it all so easy...and final.
Fred Sanders
Jul 2015
#13
The NRA salutes you for yet another illogical and fact-free attempt at deflecting. We see you!
Fred Sanders
Jul 2015
#19
Another typical NRA lover response..."you hate women, because you do not think women should defend
Fred Sanders
Jul 2015
#30
As a rape victim/survivor, I appreciate the fact that I can protect myself.
darkangel218
Jul 2015
#35
Walk like an NRA lover, quack like an NRA lover, advance NRA talking points exactly like this one.
Fred Sanders
Jul 2015
#50
NRA posters are often not truthful about who they are, but did you read about the poster suggesting
Fred Sanders
Jul 2015
#175
First you admit you are! It is not nice to fabricate lies about any poster, and then attempt to, unsuccessfully,
Fred Sanders
Aug 2015
#254
When one fails to understand false equivalency and logic, it is I that wish you good luck!
Fred Sanders
Aug 2015
#259
LOL... Sure. Be sure to polish your righteous indignation while you're at it. ;) nt
Adrahil
Aug 2015
#261
NRA supporters, I should add, also often distort the words of others in order to pretend they
Fred Sanders
Jul 2015
#194
Thanks for repeating for malicious purpose a false accusation from a NRA gun lover poster, new poser.
Fred Sanders
Jul 2015
#173
If its a false accusation feel free to prove it by stating women have the right to defend themselves
Nuclear Unicorn
Jul 2015
#181
advocating protecting yourself with a gun is mean and hateful...and it's hurts feelings.
ileus
Jul 2015
#65
Agreed. Calling a liberal an "NRA supporter" here on DU should be hideworthy.
Lizzie Poppet
Jul 2015
#171
He's telling a rape survivor that her only motive for carrying is to support the NRA.
Nuclear Unicorn
Jul 2015
#76
How justified is it to tell a survivor the only reason they carry is to be a propaganda tool?
Nuclear Unicorn
Jul 2015
#180
Doesn't read like the opinion of a 12 year old to me, not that he needs me to defend him.
cherokeeprogressive
Jul 2015
#216
Please note: One side in Guns Discussions can call names w/out condemnation.nt
Eleanors38
Jul 2015
#217
I'm worried this thread is going to get locked as a gun thread when it specifically says "weapon"
gollygee
Jul 2015
#18
It's a bigoted and exploitative thread you have running here, you and Fred.
Bluenorthwest
Jul 2015
#238
The OP cites 4 incidences: A shooting, a stabbing and vehicular homicide
Nuclear Unicorn
Jul 2015
#11
I totally agree with your OP and suggest that it should contain one more example - the killing of
jwirr
Jul 2015
#160
Precisely....320 million designed to kill GUNS is a huge problem, especially for minorities and those guns have to go....first and now.
Fred Sanders
Jul 2015
#80
Keep in mind that the 2A - like the rest of the "Bill of Rights" are ALL about guaranteeing
jonno99
Jul 2015
#99
If you feel better labeling the NRA as evil - go for it. I'm not a member. But it's obvious
jonno99
Jul 2015
#123
Your belief is not a requirement to make it a fact. Just take a few minutes and
jonno99
Jul 2015
#124
Well, then you are aware then that the BOR is not about collective (even corporate) rights, they
jonno99
Jul 2015
#168
That's the number of people in the US, not the number of guns -- Only about a third of us own guns
whathehell
Jul 2015
#140
In your response you could substitute the word "gun" with "car", "motorcycle", or "knife";
jonno99
Jul 2015
#58
Only one is designed as a weapon right from the factory and is preferred by armies....can you guess which one?
Fred Sanders
Jul 2015
#70
The NRA salutes you for pulling the "inaminate object" logical fail out of the NRA bag of lies!
Fred Sanders
Jul 2015
#104
Well of course. But what is the primary purpose of the rapist? For many the only
jonno99
Jul 2015
#119
So, what is the point about "designed to kill?" Not all guns are, but conceding the argument...
Eleanors38
Jul 2015
#221
Deflection from the fact that too many guns in hands of too many people that should not have them.
-none
Jul 2015
#231
Deflection? My goodness, I didn't broach the pointless subject of "designed to kill."
Eleanors38
Jul 2015
#235
Gun lovers never see a problem with guns. More and more guns are the solution to all the many guns.
Fred Sanders
Jul 2015
#239
Dude, of the three expamples cited, one is a car, one is a knife and another a gun.
Bluenorthwest
Jul 2015
#237
No, it's 100% racist. It fixates on race and sees nothing but race. It seeks no remedy. It's only
Nuclear Unicorn
Jul 2015
#14
I would hazard a guess that all murderers have a sense of superiority. But the racist agitprop
Nuclear Unicorn
Jul 2015
#21
Okay, so -- according to you -- white people are the worst thing ever. Now what?
Nuclear Unicorn
Jul 2015
#45
Please tell me what element of white societal dominance facilitated stabbings and vehicular
Nuclear Unicorn
Jul 2015
#82
Which has absolutely nothing to do with race. Superiority over the victim motivates all crimes.
Nuclear Unicorn
Jul 2015
#100
why don't you take a quick checky there of who are killing all the fucking elephants
snooper2
Jul 2015
#126
I looked up the term "racism" in several dictionaries and I did not find it
totodeinhere
Jul 2015
#243
A sociologist is someone who gets paid to tell us all what normal people think and then
Nuclear Unicorn
Aug 2015
#257
Whatever. Ginning up racist hatred is all your OP does. It seeks not remedy only hate and fear.
Nuclear Unicorn
Jul 2015
#37
Dismantle our system of racism and white supremacy, which includes discussion of white supremacy.
gollygee
Jul 2015
#43
Dismantle is a bullshit proposition without any defined meaning. Dismantle how?
Nuclear Unicorn
Jul 2015
#47
So you don't think there have been a number of cases of violent crimes by white people
gollygee
Jul 2015
#49
I think all racially motivated crimes should be dealt with regardless of who is perpetrating them.
Nuclear Unicorn
Jul 2015
#69
It's fixated on white American men who feel a sense of superiority and need to feel power.
gollygee
Jul 2015
#93
It's fixated on crime specifically that comes from a place of a feeling of superiority and a need for power
gollygee
Jul 2015
#210
Actually, this does not detract from the OP, but technically, Encinias who arrested
JDPriestly
Jul 2015
#166
I'd wager the badge on his shirt was more of a factor than the skin under anybody's shirt.
Nuclear Unicorn
Jul 2015
#179
Your OP discriminates , and like another poster said, fixates only on one race ( and I might add,
darkangel218
Jul 2015
#20
You're right - it's about killings for a specific reason whether they're mass killings or not
gollygee
Jul 2015
#29
No, it most certainly is NOT. Most of the examples in the article are single-victim killings.
Lizzie Poppet
Jul 2015
#155
No. Not even close. But that's not the important thing (for some reason????). nt
Romulox
Jul 2015
#72
George Bush et al reinstated torture, Abu Graib, water boarding and the use of
Lodestar
Jul 2015
#32
Recognizing racism and privilege and discussing it is a big part of the answer
gollygee
Jul 2015
#61
Yes, agreed. White privilege also exists in the entirely white man owned mass media. It is not surprising the
Fred Sanders
Jul 2015
#51
That is not true, the OP makes an excellent point, just not a complete one.
Fred Sanders
Jul 2015
#73
White men aren't even *close* to the most violent demographic in America. Truth isn't the point. nt
Romulox
Jul 2015
#75
Truth is always the point. White men, with guns. Too many white men with guns and no brains, but lots of anger, is my point.
Fred Sanders
Jul 2015
#77
Stats are racist and only racists cite stats. If we're ever going to have social justice we need
Nuclear Unicorn
Jul 2015
#182
NP, sorry for coming off that way. Was just imagining this beast made of a rare metal and
Rex
Jul 2015
#203
I'm afraid I've been the volatile one in the past. He's never even raised his voice to me.
Nuclear Unicorn
Jul 2015
#209
Sounds wonderful, I am glad for the both of you. I think I've seen you type Lover Boy before.
Rex
Jul 2015
#218
Actually, she also REALLY would like to downplay her own *class based privilege*. nt
Romulox
Jul 2015
#84
You need to deal with your OWN privilege for a second, before castigating others. nt
Romulox
Jul 2015
#92
OK. But maybe you, as a well-to-do white woman, need to ask why you feel so free to critique
Romulox
Jul 2015
#98
Right. You just *happened* to forget your own White Wealthy Female privilege. Just plumb *forgot*.
Romulox
Jul 2015
#106
Oh. I guess that gives you the right to downplay your own privilege. Still not seeing any links,
Romulox
Jul 2015
#136
Then our society is absolutely mundane in the scope of the entire world.
Nuclear Unicorn
Jul 2015
#220
I like to pretend I have absolute knowledge of other people's genuflecting too.
LanternWaste
Jul 2015
#211
That is one hell of a thing to read out of a person who is exploiting attacks on gay men with knives
Bluenorthwest
Jul 2015
#242
I just love how you lecture that economic inequality doesn't matter (from your home in Ann Arbor!).
Romulox
Jul 2015
#89
LOL. Washtenaw County, then. Either way, it's an awkward perch from which to lecture the poor. nt
Romulox
Jul 2015
#96
Kent County is no better. The point stands, you like to castigate those poorer than yourself.
Romulox
Jul 2015
#111
And you're wrong. This is a conversation I very much would like to have here. nt
Romulox
Jul 2015
#149
And "you trying to find out where I live thing" is silly. We only know about you what you yourself
Romulox
Jul 2015
#143
It certainly seems to have put at least one DUer very much on the defensive.
Nye Bevan
Jul 2015
#215
Go to most any right wing "political" site and read the threats against Y.O.U
Stinky The Clown
Jul 2015
#187
Ooh, those terrible white guys. They killed almost as many people as black guys did.
Comrade Grumpy
Jul 2015
#199
At least the white race is coming around to accepting they are a race, then maybe we can move on
Fred Sanders
Jul 2015
#200
Let's talk about male privilege and those who feel they're entitled to tell rape survivors
Nuclear Unicorn
Jul 2015
#225
Maybe you can blacksplain why black guys are three times more likely to kill somebody?
Comrade Grumpy
Jul 2015
#233
They are more likely to be POOR. The less money you have the more likely you are to do your own
bravenak
Jul 2015
#247
No kidding. Suddenly discovering that "white" is also a race, the dominate race, which is the race that needs to explain everything is causing mass confusion.
Fred Sanders
Jul 2015
#240
White American man isn't any more responsible for the actions of other white american man,
Kurska
Jul 2015
#232
Look how mad!! The very same folks that castigated black protesters(racistly) are now calling YOU racist.
bravenak
Jul 2015
#234
Hey straight people. If you are going to use language like this about anti gay attacks by straights
Bluenorthwest
Jul 2015
#236