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xmas74

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164. I'm not missing the point

Wed Jul 29, 2015, 04:47 PM

Jul 2015

and you damn well know it.

You thought you'd have a hundred rec's on this thread and that everyone would fawn over you. Well, that didn't happen, your pride is hurt and you've decided to put your own spin on things, to make it seem as though this was all "some big plan".

Maybe it's time for you to take all your toys and go home for the night since you cannot handle someone else thinking differently than you.

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How many of the hunters hunt only for food?? [View all] darkangel218 Jul 2015 OP

A lot. Most, in fact. Oneironaut Jul 2015 #1

I don't eat meat, and I'm not talking about farm animals ( which is also wrong) darkangel218 Jul 2015 #5

Are you a vegan? If not you are in the cycle when you eat milk, cheese, butter, eggs etc. jwirr Jul 2015 #21

I am. Haven't even touched milk or eggs in months. darkangel218 Jul 2015 #33

Then you truly have stepped out of the cycle. I do not condemn that - in fact good for you. But it jwirr Jul 2015 #47

Actually, it's not very difficult at all to be vegetarian. HERVEPA Jul 2015 #105

No, its not that difficult. darkangel218 Jul 2015 #114

In months? Texasgal Jul 2015 #242

No guilt trips about buying meat over the counter, alright? Paladin Jul 2015 #18

Bullshit, most of it is for sport or a hobby. nt Logical Jul 2015 #228

Any hunting I do anymore is limited to what I can do on my own property (birds) tularetom Jul 2015 #2

Most hunters do hunt and eat what they hunt, same as people who fish still_one Jul 2015 #3

My question is, do you believe they don't enjoy it??? darkangel218 Jul 2015 #6

For both. Incidentally I am a vegetarian, but as long as hunters still_one Jul 2015 #9

I have a problem with more than just trophy hunters. darkangel218 Jul 2015 #38

we disagree. still_one Jul 2015 #65

Thats fine. darkangel218 Jul 2015 #68

so what? So long as they hunt ethically, no foul. Adrahil Jul 2015 #132

Ethically?? darkangel218 Jul 2015 #134

WE live as a PART of nature... Adrahil Jul 2015 #140

Things in nature kill each other. Except we are on the top of the food chain. darkangel218 Jul 2015 #145

Being at the top of the food chain makes no difference. Adrahil Jul 2015 #153

It makes a lot of difference. darkangel218 Jul 2015 #155

Your hope is unlikely to be fulfilled. Adrahil Jul 2015 #157

Hunting will not become illegal in Minnesota anytime soon. Snobblevitch Jul 2015 #202

Sorry, dark. You still kill... Eleanors38 Jul 2015 #154

I have concerns , but why not start with what we can stop?? darkangel218 Jul 2015 #160

I like meat Telcontar Jul 2015 #209

I have to agree. nilesobek Jul 2015 #146

What if he ate the lion? AllFieldsRequired Jul 2015 #59

no offense, but that is bullshit argument, because that is NOT what happened, and NOT why people still_one Jul 2015 #70

But someone said if you eat what you hunt, etc. So all I am saying is you can AllFieldsRequired Jul 2015 #75

People do not eat big game animals. That is NOT a rationalization, that is fact. Your view that still_one Jul 2015 #123

Oddly enough, I fish just to catch fish. I release all of the fish I catch, MineralMan Jul 2015 #10

How would you feel if a higher species would play catch and release with us? darkangel218 Jul 2015 #39

What higher species are you thinking of. MineralMan Jul 2015 #58

If it existed. How would you feel? darkangel218 Jul 2015 #67

It doesn't exist. MineralMan Jul 2015 #69

I asked you hypothetically. darkangel218 Jul 2015 #76

I don't answer hypothetical questions that don't make sense. MineralMan Jul 2015 #78

It does make sense, and you understood my question perfectly. darkangel218 Jul 2015 #81

It's a perfectly valid question and youa re being obtuse by refusing to answer. HERVEPA Jul 2015 #108

It's not a perfectly valid question, and I won't answer. MineralMan Jul 2015 #117

I support you 100%. n/t cherokeeprogressive Jul 2015 #235

Have you ever checked the lake one day after a bass tournament? I guarantee you'll see dead B Calm Jul 2015 #54

I never keep fish in a livewell. I use circle hooks, and MineralMan Jul 2015 #57

Good for you! I use my needle nose and pinch the barb down. In Manitoba it's the law to fish B Calm Jul 2015 #60

For fly fishing, I use barbless hooks, always. MineralMan Jul 2015 #64

I have a small farm pond stocked with trophy fish. It's strictly catch and release. If you are B Calm Jul 2015 #71

Thanks. I haven't been in IN for years, though. MineralMan Jul 2015 #77

I been fishing northern Minnesota waters for almost 40 years. Had B Calm Jul 2015 #83

Cool. I fish mostly around the metro area here. MineralMan Jul 2015 #84

Does it matter? NutmegYankee Jul 2015 #17

Most hunters I know,and myself are pretty much indifferent Go Vols Jul 2015 #35

Living in a hunting community, LWolf Jul 2015 #73

Well, it's the pleasure principal all over again... Eleanors38 Jul 2015 #139

Of course they enjoy it. Lizzie Poppet Jul 2015 #232

I like catching fish d_r Jul 2015 #80

I agree Jim Beard Jul 2015 #4

More than you'd think, actually. MineralMan Jul 2015 #7

I hunt for more reasons than "only for food" GusBob Jul 2015 #8

Human beings have a long history of hunting. Maedhros Jul 2015 #22

"Hightness, awareness and excitement" .. darkangel218 Jul 2015 #41

I get it - hunting is not for you. Maedhros Jul 2015 #46

Bagged a deer. what a lovely term. HERVEPA Jul 2015 #112

I avoid "bagging" deer if possible. Cuts down on the cooling process. Eleanors38 Jul 2015 #150

Thanks for the typical insensitive response HERVEPA Jul 2015 #161

What's so insensitive? I do bag up to15 dove in a day. It's practical. Eleanors38 Jul 2015 #171

Schmuck HERVEPA Jul 2015 #177

Heiffer dust. Eleanors38 Jul 2015 #180

And you eat 15 doves in a day??? darkangel218 Jul 2015 #181

He's an ass. Just trying to bait. HERVEPA Jul 2015 #201

Thanks. I won't reply in this thread anymore. darkangel218 Jul 2015 #203

yet you did reply 5 more times Kali Jul 2015 #234

No, I spread them out over 2 - 3 meals; they are small but rich. Eleanors38 Jul 2015 #208

Everything's better.with a smidgeon of pigeon! Orrex Jul 2015 #225

A gob of squab! nt pinboy3niner Jul 2015 #226

That was excellent. Orrex Jul 2015 #249

Pigeons (or rock dove) are legal during dove season in Texas, and are quite good. Eleanors38 Jul 2015 #248

It taps into something deep in our DNA... Adrahil Jul 2015 #135

LOL, try to explain it. Should be entertaining. nt Logical Jul 2015 #229

I just fulled myself...... quickesst Jul 2015 #11

There's a lot of space between the starving honest woodsman hunting to feed his family and Brickbat Jul 2015 #12

Only things I hunt down... Xyzse Jul 2015 #13

I also don't apologize or shed a tear when I rip a tomato from the vine Shrek Jul 2015 #14

Are you vegan? n/t tammywammy Jul 2015 #15

she claims she is Kali Jul 2015 #195

I notice she also hates not being correct about everything xmas74 Jul 2015 #210

oh yeah Kali Jul 2015 #224

When I called her out on it being a flamebait OP xmas74 Jul 2015 #227

she does generate LOT of clicks Kali Jul 2015 #231

The spirit of Margaret Thatcher? xmas74 Jul 2015 #236

It only fits her Texasgal Jul 2015 #240

I went to school with kids who hunted for food to feed their families. xmas74 Jul 2015 #16

It is an old Native American tradition to kneel down after a kill and thank the creator AND the jwirr Jul 2015 #19

In most areas natural predators have been eliminated or driven away. Maedhros Jul 2015 #23

I know that but in NE MN we reintroduced the wolves. We hear them howling around out little farm jwirr Jul 2015 #25

Actually, that sounds utterly delightful. Daemonaquila Jul 2015 #27

Nature if you give it a chance is wonderful. In all the depressing mess we live in right now jwirr Jul 2015 #31

Wolves are coming back in Oregon as well. Maedhros Jul 2015 #34

Well I can see the ranchers point because they have herds too large to put in the barn at night. We jwirr Jul 2015 #52

I do as well. Maedhros Jul 2015 #102

Well, accordign t othe OP, we could just replace all of them with mink. Scootaloo Jul 2015 #172

I care not one whit what this OP has to say. Maedhros Jul 2015 #176

! Kali Jul 2015 #197

Exactly Runningdawg Jul 2015 #62

It is an old and valuable tradition. I am so glad my son-in-laws and grandchildren and grest jwirr Jul 2015 #66

Aho Runningdawg Jul 2015 #86

Do you get nosebleeds at that altitude on your high horse? hobbit709 Jul 2015 #20

+1 Go Vols Jul 2015 #37

We didn't have to go in the woods, had cows, pigs, bunnies, chickens, no trigger needed for chickens snooper2 Jul 2015 #24

We do that also. Four of our families - about 31 people work together to provide food for ourselves jwirr Jul 2015 #42

Yep Go Vols Jul 2015 #43

Get over your silly assumptions. Daemonaquila Jul 2015 #26

You being a hunter explains every single word in your post. darkangel218 Jul 2015 #28

I have a friend who took a picture and posted it on Facebook. xmas74 Jul 2015 #96

Sure they "live off of it" darkangel218 Jul 2015 #103

He's not a professional hunter. xmas74 Jul 2015 #129

OMG, you have no idea what you're talking about. Daemonaquila Jul 2015 #130

Go on and defend HUNTING and KILLING wild animals all you want. darkangel218 Jul 2015 #133

You're proving you have no knowledge, only hatred, of hunting. Daemonaquila Jul 2015 #106

Yes, hatred of hunting. darkangel218 Jul 2015 #125

Thanks for finally admitting you have no interest in facts. Daemonaquila Jul 2015 #149

Oh and BTW, darkangel218 Jul 2015 #30

I'll say to you the same thing I say to Christians who despise gay marriage: Maedhros Jul 2015 #40

I like that response. Go Vols Jul 2015 #45

The OP, who is now on my ignore list, is just like those Christians who claim Maedhros Jul 2015 #50

Consider it mutual. darkangel218 Jul 2015 #53

Of course you do, hunter to the hunter. darkangel218 Jul 2015 #51

lol Go Vols Jul 2015 #89

I have no problem with that. Free speech. darkangel218 Jul 2015 #90

When a cow kills a human, should it apologize? Orrex Jul 2015 #29

Cows kill humans for fun, then take pictures with their kill? darkangel218 Jul 2015 #32

Then you're moving your goalposts. Orrex Jul 2015 #44

Those who take pictures with their kill do it because they're proud of what they just did. darkangel218 Jul 2015 #48

And now you're misrepresenting my statement. Orrex Jul 2015 #74

Humans are ( or supposed to be ) smarter than other species. darkangel218 Jul 2015 #79

Nope, that's called special pleading. Orrex Jul 2015 #93

You don't assume "moral wrongness" in someone enjoying taking an animal's life??? darkangel218 Jul 2015 #95

Explain to me how you know that your beliefs are based on objective fact. Orrex Jul 2015 #162

"Typical for me"? So now you resort to personal attacks to try to make your point?/ darkangel218 Jul 2015 #166

It's not a personal attack; it's a demonstrable fact Orrex Jul 2015 #223

! Kali Jul 2015 #182

I can't speak for other states, Blue_In_AK Jul 2015 #36

I'm so glad I posted this thread. Many came out of the woodwork darkangel218 Jul 2015 #49

What true colors? xmas74 Jul 2015 #158

I was raised in the country as well. darkangel218 Jul 2015 #159

I'm not missing the point xmas74 Jul 2015 #164

Seriously?? darkangel218 Jul 2015 #173

I've been here for a very long time. xmas74 Jul 2015 #190

I could care less for your imaginarry validation. darkangel218 Jul 2015 #192

I think you do. xmas74 Jul 2015 #198

You "think" wrong. darkangel218 Jul 2015 #199

And you replied again. xmas74 Jul 2015 #206

Yet you posted again. darkangel218 Jul 2015 #207

Why? xmas74 Jul 2015 #212

Yah right! Nt darkangel218 Jul 2015 #213

You wrote a flamebait OP xmas74 Jul 2015 #217

No, i did not. darkangel218 Jul 2015 #219

Go for it. xmas74 Jul 2015 #221

! Kali Jul 2015 #233

Lol! xmas74 Jul 2015 #237

Jury results fadedrose Jul 2015 #211

It's so rare that I'm reported on. xmas74 Jul 2015 #214

Wow... Thank you. darkangel218 Jul 2015 #215

curious what the alerter wrote for the complaint Kali Jul 2015 #230

I suspect it was blank. xmas74 Jul 2015 #238

I think besides the usual reason fadedrose Jul 2015 #245

How many of them NEED to hunt for food? guillaumeb Jul 2015 #55

How many workers in abattoirs hang body parts on their walls for decoration? Tierra_y_Libertad Jul 2015 #56

Thousands and thousands of hunters hunt only for food. Sissyk Jul 2015 #61

How many of those thousands of thousands do have pics and souvenirs from their hunting trips?? darkangel218 Jul 2015 #72

I don't count them, so I don't know. Sissyk Jul 2015 #82

Yah, and drink and throw BBQ parties afterwords. darkangel218 Jul 2015 #85

So thatt, what? Sissyk Jul 2015 #87

I don't hang around them. darkangel218 Jul 2015 #91

Good you don't hang around them.. Sissyk Jul 2015 #94

Food and excitement. darkangel218 Jul 2015 #97

Where did I admit "they" enjoy it? Sissyk Jul 2015 #98

Lmao!!!! darkangel218 Jul 2015 #99

Well, you are free to believe what you want. Sissyk Jul 2015 #107

Go for it, I agree with you. To each their own. darkangel218 Jul 2015 #110

I'm going to a fish fry this weekend. xmas74 Jul 2015 #175

Good times, and good eating! Sissyk Jul 2015 #178

Thanks! xmas74 Jul 2015 #193

I suspect most people eat what they kill RandySF Jul 2015 #63

Are you a vegetarian? I ask because factory farming is far more inhumane than hunting. PeaceNikki Jul 2015 #88

Yes I am. darkangel218 Jul 2015 #92

Yes, I do say. For many the thrill comes from connecting with nature, PeaceNikki Jul 2015 #100

Connecting to nature, by killing wild animals?? darkangel218 Jul 2015 #101

Yes. By hunting. Ever play hide & seek? Hunting is a lot more than the 'kill'. PeaceNikki Jul 2015 #104

Yes I played hide and seek, but didn't kill innocent lives in the process. darkangel218 Jul 2015 #109

But you keep ignoring the rest of what I said. Factory farming is FAR FAR more inhumane. PeaceNikki Jul 2015 #116

Yes, I do. Because piggly wiggly will still grow, slaughter and sell farm meat regardless darkangel218 Jul 2015 #120

Your "FYI" statement would be illegal and unethical and nothing any hunter I know would do. PeaceNikki Jul 2015 #126

Yet it happens , due to many factors. darkangel218 Jul 2015 #128

I get that 'it happens', but it's illegal and unethical to not 'finish them off'. PeaceNikki Jul 2015 #137

One of the biggest assholes from high school eventually went to work for DNR. xmas74 Jul 2015 #204

Of the ones who kill lions? Spirochete Jul 2015 #111

Of the ones who kill for "fun", " excitement" and "sport". darkangel218 Jul 2015 #113

So much more respectable to be totally hands-off and leave the dirty work to factory farms, right? PeaceNikki Jul 2015 #118

Factory farms will never stop or at least not in near future. darkangel218 Jul 2015 #122

If hunters didn't hunt and eat the meat, the demand for factory farmed meat would be greater. PeaceNikki Jul 2015 #124

You honestly believe that?? That hunters keep the meat farming industry in place??? darkangel218 Jul 2015 #127

That's not what I said. PeaceNikki Jul 2015 #138

Thats is what you implied. darkangel218 Jul 2015 #143

You think hunters are bad and factory farms are good? PeaceNikki Jul 2015 #156

I never said factory farms are good. What I said was hunting won't stop factory farms darkangel218 Jul 2015 #168

It sucks when people twist your words, doesn't it? PeaceNikki Jul 2015 #174

And hunters are not going away any time soon. Sissyk Jul 2015 #163

None of them do Spirochete Jul 2015 #119

No shit. darkangel218 Jul 2015 #121

I don't mind if hunters enjoy the effort and skill of hunting well. aikoaiko Jul 2015 #115

Strange in a way, I enjoy much more the actual hooking & catching of fish than shooting a deer... Eleanors38 Jul 2015 #165

The fact that they also ENJOY hunting is beside the point. Adrahil Jul 2015 #131

Healthy ecology my ass. darkangel218 Jul 2015 #136

You can kill directly (hunting) or indirectly (agriculture). What's your choice? Eleanors38 Jul 2015 #141

Agriculture" ( I guess you mean animal farms" will never go away. darkangel218 Jul 2015 #147

No, whatever grew YOUR food. Don't dodge. You kill to eat. Eleanors38 Jul 2015 #167

Factory farmed animals suffer their entire lives. Every minute. Forever. n/t gollygee Jul 2015 #170

Yup. Why anyone would literally prefer meat eaters consume factory farmed meat over hunting is PeaceNikki Jul 2015 #218

You have no idea you are talking about. Adrahil Jul 2015 #142

Look up what happens when hunters only injure and the animal suffers for weeks darkangel218 Jul 2015 #152

Wounded animals are a shame.... Adrahil Jul 2015 #183

Don't hunt quaker bill Jul 2015 #144

And many die in agonizing deaths , over weeks at a time. darkangel218 Jul 2015 #148

I have not seen that quaker bill Jul 2015 #241

I've known people who hunt only for food gollygee Jul 2015 #151

Same here. xmas74 Jul 2015 #186

I did subsistence hunting and fishing for 12 years Scootaloo Jul 2015 #169

Do you honestly think majority of hunters go hungry if they don't hunt? darkangel218 Jul 2015 #179

I don't know what they do. I'm not them. Scootaloo Jul 2015 #184

Then you cant refute what majority of hunters do, which is killing for sport/fun darkangel218 Jul 2015 #187

I haven't seen you support this thesis anywhere in the thread. Scootaloo Jul 2015 #188

I'm well qualified to judge unnecessary killings and tortures just by having a heart. darkangel218 Jul 2015 #191

No, they'd consume more factory farm meat which is far worse. PeaceNikki Jul 2015 #185

Factory farming will not stop any time soon. darkangel218 Jul 2015 #189

So we should encourage people to consume more factory farmed meat as opposed to hunting? PeaceNikki Jul 2015 #196

My father did JustAnotherGen Jul 2015 #194

I like fresh game Telcontar Jul 2015 #200

Very few. RebelOne Jul 2015 #205

taking pride in hunting and slaying game in no less ethical or more unnatural than taking pride in arely staircase Jul 2015 #216

Yah, because animals and tomatoes are obd and the same!! darkangel218 Jul 2015 #220

they are both sources of energy nt arely staircase Jul 2015 #243

C- topic is too easy Kali Jul 2015 #222

Definitely not a classic. xmas74 Jul 2015 #239

I honestly can not answer that question. malokvale77 Jul 2015 #244

The hunting my son and I engage in is for food. ileus Jul 2015 #246

When I was little, my father hunted a couple times a year and we ate what he shot. AtomicKitten Jul 2015 #247