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41. "Hightness, awareness and excitement" ..

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How many of the hunters hunt only for food?? [View all] darkangel218 Jul 2015 OP

A lot. Most, in fact. Oneironaut Jul 2015 #1

I don't eat meat, and I'm not talking about farm animals ( which is also wrong) darkangel218 Jul 2015 #5

Are you a vegan? If not you are in the cycle when you eat milk, cheese, butter, eggs etc. jwirr Jul 2015 #21

I am. Haven't even touched milk or eggs in months. darkangel218 Jul 2015 #33

Then you truly have stepped out of the cycle. I do not condemn that - in fact good for you. But it jwirr Jul 2015 #47

Actually, it's not very difficult at all to be vegetarian. HERVEPA Jul 2015 #105

No, its not that difficult. darkangel218 Jul 2015 #114

In months? Texasgal Jul 2015 #242

No guilt trips about buying meat over the counter, alright? Paladin Jul 2015 #18

Bullshit, most of it is for sport or a hobby. nt Logical Jul 2015 #228

Any hunting I do anymore is limited to what I can do on my own property (birds) tularetom Jul 2015 #2

Most hunters do hunt and eat what they hunt, same as people who fish still_one Jul 2015 #3

My question is, do you believe they don't enjoy it??? darkangel218 Jul 2015 #6

For both. Incidentally I am a vegetarian, but as long as hunters still_one Jul 2015 #9

I have a problem with more than just trophy hunters. darkangel218 Jul 2015 #38

we disagree. still_one Jul 2015 #65

Thats fine. darkangel218 Jul 2015 #68

so what? So long as they hunt ethically, no foul. Adrahil Jul 2015 #132

Ethically?? darkangel218 Jul 2015 #134

WE live as a PART of nature... Adrahil Jul 2015 #140

Things in nature kill each other. Except we are on the top of the food chain. darkangel218 Jul 2015 #145

Being at the top of the food chain makes no difference. Adrahil Jul 2015 #153

It makes a lot of difference. darkangel218 Jul 2015 #155

Your hope is unlikely to be fulfilled. Adrahil Jul 2015 #157

Hunting will not become illegal in Minnesota anytime soon. Snobblevitch Jul 2015 #202

Sorry, dark. You still kill... Eleanors38 Jul 2015 #154

I have concerns , but why not start with what we can stop?? darkangel218 Jul 2015 #160

I like meat Telcontar Jul 2015 #209

I have to agree. nilesobek Jul 2015 #146

What if he ate the lion? AllFieldsRequired Jul 2015 #59

no offense, but that is bullshit argument, because that is NOT what happened, and NOT why people still_one Jul 2015 #70

But someone said if you eat what you hunt, etc. So all I am saying is you can AllFieldsRequired Jul 2015 #75

People do not eat big game animals. That is NOT a rationalization, that is fact. Your view that still_one Jul 2015 #123

Oddly enough, I fish just to catch fish. I release all of the fish I catch, MineralMan Jul 2015 #10

How would you feel if a higher species would play catch and release with us? darkangel218 Jul 2015 #39

What higher species are you thinking of. MineralMan Jul 2015 #58

If it existed. How would you feel? darkangel218 Jul 2015 #67

It doesn't exist. MineralMan Jul 2015 #69

I asked you hypothetically. darkangel218 Jul 2015 #76

I don't answer hypothetical questions that don't make sense. MineralMan Jul 2015 #78

It does make sense, and you understood my question perfectly. darkangel218 Jul 2015 #81

It's a perfectly valid question and youa re being obtuse by refusing to answer. HERVEPA Jul 2015 #108

It's not a perfectly valid question, and I won't answer. MineralMan Jul 2015 #117

I support you 100%. n/t cherokeeprogressive Jul 2015 #235

Have you ever checked the lake one day after a bass tournament? I guarantee you'll see dead B Calm Jul 2015 #54

I never keep fish in a livewell. I use circle hooks, and MineralMan Jul 2015 #57

Good for you! I use my needle nose and pinch the barb down. In Manitoba it's the law to fish B Calm Jul 2015 #60

For fly fishing, I use barbless hooks, always. MineralMan Jul 2015 #64

I have a small farm pond stocked with trophy fish. It's strictly catch and release. If you are B Calm Jul 2015 #71

Thanks. I haven't been in IN for years, though. MineralMan Jul 2015 #77

I been fishing northern Minnesota waters for almost 40 years. Had B Calm Jul 2015 #83

Cool. I fish mostly around the metro area here. MineralMan Jul 2015 #84

Does it matter? NutmegYankee Jul 2015 #17

Most hunters I know,and myself are pretty much indifferent Go Vols Jul 2015 #35

Living in a hunting community, LWolf Jul 2015 #73

Well, it's the pleasure principal all over again... Eleanors38 Jul 2015 #139

Of course they enjoy it. Lizzie Poppet Jul 2015 #232

I like catching fish d_r Jul 2015 #80

I agree Jim Beard Jul 2015 #4

More than you'd think, actually. MineralMan Jul 2015 #7

I hunt for more reasons than "only for food" GusBob Jul 2015 #8

Human beings have a long history of hunting. Maedhros Jul 2015 #22

"Hightness, awareness and excitement" .. darkangel218 Jul 2015 #41

I get it - hunting is not for you. Maedhros Jul 2015 #46

Bagged a deer. what a lovely term. HERVEPA Jul 2015 #112

I avoid "bagging" deer if possible. Cuts down on the cooling process. Eleanors38 Jul 2015 #150

Thanks for the typical insensitive response HERVEPA Jul 2015 #161

What's so insensitive? I do bag up to15 dove in a day. It's practical. Eleanors38 Jul 2015 #171

Schmuck HERVEPA Jul 2015 #177

Heiffer dust. Eleanors38 Jul 2015 #180

And you eat 15 doves in a day??? darkangel218 Jul 2015 #181

He's an ass. Just trying to bait. HERVEPA Jul 2015 #201

Thanks. I won't reply in this thread anymore. darkangel218 Jul 2015 #203

yet you did reply 5 more times Kali Jul 2015 #234

No, I spread them out over 2 - 3 meals; they are small but rich. Eleanors38 Jul 2015 #208

Everything's better.with a smidgeon of pigeon! Orrex Jul 2015 #225

A gob of squab! nt pinboy3niner Jul 2015 #226

That was excellent. Orrex Jul 2015 #249

Pigeons (or rock dove) are legal during dove season in Texas, and are quite good. Eleanors38 Jul 2015 #248

It taps into something deep in our DNA... Adrahil Jul 2015 #135

LOL, try to explain it. Should be entertaining. nt Logical Jul 2015 #229

I just fulled myself...... quickesst Jul 2015 #11

There's a lot of space between the starving honest woodsman hunting to feed his family and Brickbat Jul 2015 #12

Only things I hunt down... Xyzse Jul 2015 #13

I also don't apologize or shed a tear when I rip a tomato from the vine Shrek Jul 2015 #14

Are you vegan? n/t tammywammy Jul 2015 #15

she claims she is Kali Jul 2015 #195

I notice she also hates not being correct about everything xmas74 Jul 2015 #210

oh yeah Kali Jul 2015 #224

When I called her out on it being a flamebait OP xmas74 Jul 2015 #227

she does generate LOT of clicks Kali Jul 2015 #231

The spirit of Margaret Thatcher? xmas74 Jul 2015 #236

It only fits her Texasgal Jul 2015 #240

I went to school with kids who hunted for food to feed their families. xmas74 Jul 2015 #16

It is an old Native American tradition to kneel down after a kill and thank the creator AND the jwirr Jul 2015 #19

In most areas natural predators have been eliminated or driven away. Maedhros Jul 2015 #23

I know that but in NE MN we reintroduced the wolves. We hear them howling around out little farm jwirr Jul 2015 #25

Actually, that sounds utterly delightful. Daemonaquila Jul 2015 #27

Nature if you give it a chance is wonderful. In all the depressing mess we live in right now jwirr Jul 2015 #31

Wolves are coming back in Oregon as well. Maedhros Jul 2015 #34

Well I can see the ranchers point because they have herds too large to put in the barn at night. We jwirr Jul 2015 #52

I do as well. Maedhros Jul 2015 #102

Well, accordign t othe OP, we could just replace all of them with mink. Scootaloo Jul 2015 #172

I care not one whit what this OP has to say. Maedhros Jul 2015 #176

! Kali Jul 2015 #197

Exactly Runningdawg Jul 2015 #62

It is an old and valuable tradition. I am so glad my son-in-laws and grandchildren and grest jwirr Jul 2015 #66

Aho Runningdawg Jul 2015 #86

Do you get nosebleeds at that altitude on your high horse? hobbit709 Jul 2015 #20

+1 Go Vols Jul 2015 #37

We didn't have to go in the woods, had cows, pigs, bunnies, chickens, no trigger needed for chickens snooper2 Jul 2015 #24

We do that also. Four of our families - about 31 people work together to provide food for ourselves jwirr Jul 2015 #42

Yep Go Vols Jul 2015 #43

Get over your silly assumptions. Daemonaquila Jul 2015 #26

You being a hunter explains every single word in your post. darkangel218 Jul 2015 #28

I have a friend who took a picture and posted it on Facebook. xmas74 Jul 2015 #96

Sure they "live off of it" darkangel218 Jul 2015 #103

He's not a professional hunter. xmas74 Jul 2015 #129

OMG, you have no idea what you're talking about. Daemonaquila Jul 2015 #130

Go on and defend HUNTING and KILLING wild animals all you want. darkangel218 Jul 2015 #133

You're proving you have no knowledge, only hatred, of hunting. Daemonaquila Jul 2015 #106

Yes, hatred of hunting. darkangel218 Jul 2015 #125

Thanks for finally admitting you have no interest in facts. Daemonaquila Jul 2015 #149

Oh and BTW, darkangel218 Jul 2015 #30

I'll say to you the same thing I say to Christians who despise gay marriage: Maedhros Jul 2015 #40

I like that response. Go Vols Jul 2015 #45

The OP, who is now on my ignore list, is just like those Christians who claim Maedhros Jul 2015 #50

Consider it mutual. darkangel218 Jul 2015 #53

Of course you do, hunter to the hunter. darkangel218 Jul 2015 #51

lol Go Vols Jul 2015 #89

I have no problem with that. Free speech. darkangel218 Jul 2015 #90

When a cow kills a human, should it apologize? Orrex Jul 2015 #29

Cows kill humans for fun, then take pictures with their kill? darkangel218 Jul 2015 #32

Then you're moving your goalposts. Orrex Jul 2015 #44

Those who take pictures with their kill do it because they're proud of what they just did. darkangel218 Jul 2015 #48

And now you're misrepresenting my statement. Orrex Jul 2015 #74

Humans are ( or supposed to be ) smarter than other species. darkangel218 Jul 2015 #79

Nope, that's called special pleading. Orrex Jul 2015 #93

You don't assume "moral wrongness" in someone enjoying taking an animal's life??? darkangel218 Jul 2015 #95

Explain to me how you know that your beliefs are based on objective fact. Orrex Jul 2015 #162

"Typical for me"? So now you resort to personal attacks to try to make your point?/ darkangel218 Jul 2015 #166

It's not a personal attack; it's a demonstrable fact Orrex Jul 2015 #223

! Kali Jul 2015 #182

I can't speak for other states, Blue_In_AK Jul 2015 #36

I'm so glad I posted this thread. Many came out of the woodwork darkangel218 Jul 2015 #49

What true colors? xmas74 Jul 2015 #158

I was raised in the country as well. darkangel218 Jul 2015 #159

I'm not missing the point xmas74 Jul 2015 #164

Seriously?? darkangel218 Jul 2015 #173

I've been here for a very long time. xmas74 Jul 2015 #190

I could care less for your imaginarry validation. darkangel218 Jul 2015 #192

I think you do. xmas74 Jul 2015 #198

You "think" wrong. darkangel218 Jul 2015 #199

And you replied again. xmas74 Jul 2015 #206

Yet you posted again. darkangel218 Jul 2015 #207

Why? xmas74 Jul 2015 #212

Yah right! Nt darkangel218 Jul 2015 #213

You wrote a flamebait OP xmas74 Jul 2015 #217

No, i did not. darkangel218 Jul 2015 #219

Go for it. xmas74 Jul 2015 #221

! Kali Jul 2015 #233

Lol! xmas74 Jul 2015 #237

Jury results fadedrose Jul 2015 #211

It's so rare that I'm reported on. xmas74 Jul 2015 #214

Wow... Thank you. darkangel218 Jul 2015 #215

curious what the alerter wrote for the complaint Kali Jul 2015 #230

I suspect it was blank. xmas74 Jul 2015 #238

I think besides the usual reason fadedrose Jul 2015 #245

How many of them NEED to hunt for food? guillaumeb Jul 2015 #55

How many workers in abattoirs hang body parts on their walls for decoration? Tierra_y_Libertad Jul 2015 #56

Thousands and thousands of hunters hunt only for food. Sissyk Jul 2015 #61

How many of those thousands of thousands do have pics and souvenirs from their hunting trips?? darkangel218 Jul 2015 #72

I don't count them, so I don't know. Sissyk Jul 2015 #82

Yah, and drink and throw BBQ parties afterwords. darkangel218 Jul 2015 #85

So thatt, what? Sissyk Jul 2015 #87

I don't hang around them. darkangel218 Jul 2015 #91

Good you don't hang around them.. Sissyk Jul 2015 #94

Food and excitement. darkangel218 Jul 2015 #97

Where did I admit "they" enjoy it? Sissyk Jul 2015 #98

Lmao!!!! darkangel218 Jul 2015 #99

Well, you are free to believe what you want. Sissyk Jul 2015 #107

Go for it, I agree with you. To each their own. darkangel218 Jul 2015 #110

I'm going to a fish fry this weekend. xmas74 Jul 2015 #175

Good times, and good eating! Sissyk Jul 2015 #178

Thanks! xmas74 Jul 2015 #193

I suspect most people eat what they kill RandySF Jul 2015 #63

Are you a vegetarian? I ask because factory farming is far more inhumane than hunting. PeaceNikki Jul 2015 #88

Yes I am. darkangel218 Jul 2015 #92

Yes, I do say. For many the thrill comes from connecting with nature, PeaceNikki Jul 2015 #100

Connecting to nature, by killing wild animals?? darkangel218 Jul 2015 #101

Yes. By hunting. Ever play hide & seek? Hunting is a lot more than the 'kill'. PeaceNikki Jul 2015 #104

Yes I played hide and seek, but didn't kill innocent lives in the process. darkangel218 Jul 2015 #109

But you keep ignoring the rest of what I said. Factory farming is FAR FAR more inhumane. PeaceNikki Jul 2015 #116

Yes, I do. Because piggly wiggly will still grow, slaughter and sell farm meat regardless darkangel218 Jul 2015 #120

Your "FYI" statement would be illegal and unethical and nothing any hunter I know would do. PeaceNikki Jul 2015 #126

Yet it happens , due to many factors. darkangel218 Jul 2015 #128

I get that 'it happens', but it's illegal and unethical to not 'finish them off'. PeaceNikki Jul 2015 #137

One of the biggest assholes from high school eventually went to work for DNR. xmas74 Jul 2015 #204

Of the ones who kill lions? Spirochete Jul 2015 #111

Of the ones who kill for "fun", " excitement" and "sport". darkangel218 Jul 2015 #113

So much more respectable to be totally hands-off and leave the dirty work to factory farms, right? PeaceNikki Jul 2015 #118

Factory farms will never stop or at least not in near future. darkangel218 Jul 2015 #122

If hunters didn't hunt and eat the meat, the demand for factory farmed meat would be greater. PeaceNikki Jul 2015 #124

You honestly believe that?? That hunters keep the meat farming industry in place??? darkangel218 Jul 2015 #127

That's not what I said. PeaceNikki Jul 2015 #138

Thats is what you implied. darkangel218 Jul 2015 #143

You think hunters are bad and factory farms are good? PeaceNikki Jul 2015 #156

I never said factory farms are good. What I said was hunting won't stop factory farms darkangel218 Jul 2015 #168

It sucks when people twist your words, doesn't it? PeaceNikki Jul 2015 #174

And hunters are not going away any time soon. Sissyk Jul 2015 #163

None of them do Spirochete Jul 2015 #119

No shit. darkangel218 Jul 2015 #121

I don't mind if hunters enjoy the effort and skill of hunting well. aikoaiko Jul 2015 #115

Strange in a way, I enjoy much more the actual hooking & catching of fish than shooting a deer... Eleanors38 Jul 2015 #165

The fact that they also ENJOY hunting is beside the point. Adrahil Jul 2015 #131

Healthy ecology my ass. darkangel218 Jul 2015 #136

You can kill directly (hunting) or indirectly (agriculture). What's your choice? Eleanors38 Jul 2015 #141

Agriculture" ( I guess you mean animal farms" will never go away. darkangel218 Jul 2015 #147

No, whatever grew YOUR food. Don't dodge. You kill to eat. Eleanors38 Jul 2015 #167

Factory farmed animals suffer their entire lives. Every minute. Forever. n/t gollygee Jul 2015 #170

Yup. Why anyone would literally prefer meat eaters consume factory farmed meat over hunting is PeaceNikki Jul 2015 #218

You have no idea you are talking about. Adrahil Jul 2015 #142

Look up what happens when hunters only injure and the animal suffers for weeks darkangel218 Jul 2015 #152

Wounded animals are a shame.... Adrahil Jul 2015 #183

Don't hunt quaker bill Jul 2015 #144

And many die in agonizing deaths , over weeks at a time. darkangel218 Jul 2015 #148

I have not seen that quaker bill Jul 2015 #241

I've known people who hunt only for food gollygee Jul 2015 #151

Same here. xmas74 Jul 2015 #186

I did subsistence hunting and fishing for 12 years Scootaloo Jul 2015 #169

Do you honestly think majority of hunters go hungry if they don't hunt? darkangel218 Jul 2015 #179

I don't know what they do. I'm not them. Scootaloo Jul 2015 #184

Then you cant refute what majority of hunters do, which is killing for sport/fun darkangel218 Jul 2015 #187

I haven't seen you support this thesis anywhere in the thread. Scootaloo Jul 2015 #188

I'm well qualified to judge unnecessary killings and tortures just by having a heart. darkangel218 Jul 2015 #191

No, they'd consume more factory farm meat which is far worse. PeaceNikki Jul 2015 #185

Factory farming will not stop any time soon. darkangel218 Jul 2015 #189

So we should encourage people to consume more factory farmed meat as opposed to hunting? PeaceNikki Jul 2015 #196

My father did JustAnotherGen Jul 2015 #194

I like fresh game Telcontar Jul 2015 #200

Very few. RebelOne Jul 2015 #205

taking pride in hunting and slaying game in no less ethical or more unnatural than taking pride in arely staircase Jul 2015 #216

Yah, because animals and tomatoes are obd and the same!! darkangel218 Jul 2015 #220

they are both sources of energy nt arely staircase Jul 2015 #243

C- topic is too easy Kali Jul 2015 #222

Definitely not a classic. xmas74 Jul 2015 #239

I honestly can not answer that question. malokvale77 Jul 2015 #244

The hunting my son and I engage in is for food. ileus Jul 2015 #246

When I was little, my father hunted a couple times a year and we ate what he shot. AtomicKitten Jul 2015 #247