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76. THIS ^^^^^^^

Fri Jul 3, 2015, 07:23 PM

Jul 2015

Fuck the Supreme Court, women's rights, social security, medicare, the Affordable Care Act - AND EVEN LGBT RIGHTS.

You think marriage equality is a done deal? Set in stone? Cast in bronze? Supreme Court has spoken and that is simply that?

THINK AGAIN.

I would warn my LGBT brothers and sisters - never mind what Rachel Maddow says. She's WRONG. DO NOT take this victory for granted and DO NOT let down your guard. Because it is NOT over. Any more than Roe v Wade was over when the Supreme Court okayed THAT. Lo these many years later, that supposedly "settled law" is now in tatters. If a CON gets into the White House a woman's right to choose will probably be killed off completely before the second term. You watch. Is it THAT worth it, to stay home and pout because good enough wasn't really good enough, and it had to be perfect and perfect didn't carry the day?

NONE of this is over. NONE of this that we've all fought so hard for and pushed for and advocated for and argued for and petitioned for and marched for and protested for and rallied for and emailed/called/texted/faxed for. As long as there's a very healthy and well-funded and well-backed opposition that doesn't like it and will NEVER go along with it, this is NOT OVER!!!! And LGBT activists and the rest of us on their side will have to fight this and stay vigilant and protect the ground that's been gained - for the rest of our lives. Because the enemy intends to do that til death do they part. And they think God is on THEIR side, because maybe maybe part of the Book of Leviticus is.

It's NOT over. And it won't EVER be over until the last of them dies out. And probably not even then, either. The opposition will never rest. So we can't afford to.

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Smart Democrats are worried about base turnout In 2016 [View all] pa28 Jul 2015 OP

Kick, I also worry about turnout. Agschmid Jul 2015 #1

And better candidates..... daleanime Jul 2015 #8

We have a better candidate zentrum Jul 2015 #58

For each of the congressional races? daleanime Jul 2015 #63

We need 435 better candidates. nt silvershadow Jul 2015 #68

No, we don't. Don't write off all representatives. MineralMan Jul 2015 #99

Actually, I have a very strong knowledge. Perhaps you didn't notice, but I was silvershadow Jul 2015 #107

Freakin A! I've seen it first hand tech3149 Jul 2015 #85

Anyone who doesn't turnout to vote has no right to complain. still_one Jul 2015 #2

But they will anyway. MoonRiver Jul 2015 #4

I know, and sometimes the loudest it seems still_one Jul 2015 #12

I've never missed an election since 1972. Fuddnik Jul 2015 #50

Good, then don't vote if Hillary is the nominee. Fuck the supreme court, women's rights, social still_one Jul 2015 #59

Really makes you wonder. MoonRiver Jul 2015 #66

I get very frustrated by that logic obviously. still_one Jul 2015 #69

Keep bring up the Supreme Court. Fuddnik Jul 2015 #72

Scalia and Thomas were appointed by a republican president, not a Democratic one. Yes, the still_one Jul 2015 #81

THIS ^^^^^^^ calimary Jul 2015 #76

I agree. Of course Congress can make and change laws, but the Supreme Court can either delay still_one Jul 2015 #82

Who cares? Not me. MoonRiver Jul 2015 #97

The article points to a 19% enthusiasm deficit for Democrats. pa28 Jul 2015 #29

Anyone who doesn't realize the importance of the vote, or the difference between republicans and still_one Jul 2015 #49

Anyone who sits on the sidelines and blames those who do not vote salib Jul 2015 #83

Did you even read my posts? Where did I blame or not blame anyone for NOT voting on the outcome? still_one Jul 2015 #90

Your unwillingness to listen to their complaints will TOTALLY get them to vote. (nt) jeff47 Jul 2015 #55

who in the fu*K am I. If they feel that way, then they will live with the consequences of their still_one Jul 2015 #65

And you get to live with the consequences of treating them like morons. jeff47 Jul 2015 #100

Won't bother me at all. If people do not feel it is important enough to vote it isn't my issue still_one Jul 2015 #101

So...your threat is the non-voters get a bad result. But you don't care if you get a bad result. jeff47 Jul 2015 #105

People should not have to "beg" people to vote. Have a good day still_one Jul 2015 #106

It's not that they don't wish to vote - TBF Jul 2015 #109

Then they should vote, instead of "hiding behind a screen and say", I won't vote if so and so still_one Jul 2015 #110

You can deliberately misunderstand TBF Jul 2015 #111

I never said anything against Bernie. still_one Jul 2015 #112

"Anyone who doesn't turnout to vote has no right to complain." malokvale77 Jul 2015 #87

Ok, then complain. still_one Jul 2015 #93

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And that's Bernie's Ace in the hole, everyone else running is a crook . orpupilofnature57 Jul 2015 #7

So you're accusing Clinton, O'Malley, Chafee and Webb of corruption... brooklynite Jul 2015 #9

Thanks, He's the only Believable person running, the proof is President Obama . orpupilofnature57 Jul 2015 #11

I won't vote for Hillary. Katashi_itto Jul 2015 #92

Really. Do you know Bernie's position on Israel? I suspect some of Bernie's supporters on DU still_one Jul 2015 #51

That's the appeal of Bernie and Elizabeth they're not a party of or to the Crime . orpupilofnature57 Jul 2015 #5

But they're happy to work with and support those crooks in the Senate, right? brooklynite Jul 2015 #10

They're willing to work with without knuckling under to, or coercing with, Right ? orpupilofnature57 Jul 2015 #14

I see - i't okay to work with crooks if you stand your ground... brooklynite Jul 2015 #33

WMD's ? Bailout ? and the rest of History . orpupilofnature57 Jul 2015 #74

Crickets........... 2 hrs orpupilofnature57 Jul 2015 #86

really. Senator Sanders voted for the ACA, even though he was against it, because he still_one Jul 2015 #54

Yes because he identified his opposition, and hasn't given up on the notion, he's capable orpupilofnature57 Jul 2015 #75

The point is he was pragmatic enough to realize that it was better than what was before, and though still_one Jul 2015 #79

Agreed . orpupilofnature57 Jul 2015 #84

Bernie is not through fighting for Medicare for ALL. bvar22 Jul 2015 #114

It won't be until at least the next census because the house is still_one Jul 2015 #116

That doesn't matter. bvar22 Jul 2015 #117

Well, this time the election is going to be out of their control. Le Taz Hot Jul 2015 #6

Excellent Point Le Taz Hot. 2banon Jul 2015 #16

I'm sorry, did you say, Le Taz Hot Jul 2015 #23

No! Not Skittles!! 2banon Jul 2015 #39

. . . Le Taz Hot Jul 2015 #42

People will come out to vote for Bernie Rosa Luxemburg Jul 2015 #17

We need to start recruiting progressive candidates Le Taz Hot Jul 2015 #21

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and if Bernie gets the nomination 99.9% of the DUers will vote for him. However, whoever gets the still_one Jul 2015 #94

Right. Le Taz Hot Jul 2015 #102

No more third way bullshit!! n/t PowerToThePeople Jul 2015 #13

I keep hearing about the imminent demise of the republican party due to demographics tularetom Jul 2015 #15

If the GOP falls apart, it's not necesarrily good if you are far left davidn3600 Jul 2015 #20

How will we know when that happens? tularetom Jul 2015 #22

fwiw, it would have to pull the Democratic party to the left truebluegreen Jul 2015 #48

There is no such thing as a moderate republican or libertarian anymore still_one Jul 2015 #95

Meanwhile the Republicans are hard at work disenfranchising minorities. pa28 Jul 2015 #26

yup. they are primarying kelly westlund in wis 7. mopinko Jul 2015 #18

No blaming the "Fringe Left" for any losses in 2016. bvar22 Jul 2015 #19

DWS and Nelson have killed Dem Party enthusiasm in Fl. HooptieWagon Jul 2015 #30

Funny you should mention that. bvar22 Jul 2015 #32

Thanks for adding this. pa28 Jul 2015 #35

Things like this do NOT happen by accident. bvar22 Jul 2015 #37

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Halter was beating Lincoln, so Arkansas severly thinned voting access in districts leaning Halter. stuffmatters Jul 2015 #41

Needless to say, bvar22 Jul 2015 #67

Yes. The lie is perpetuated that the DLC was formed because liberal Dems couldn't win. HooptieWagon Jul 2015 #45

You should post this as an OP kath Jul 2015 #113

Of course they will blame the "Fringe left". It's what they've been doing since 1968. jeff47 Jul 2015 #57

The "Centrist" Democrats are Waaaaay to the Right of Eisenhower. bvar22 Jul 2015 #118

Yep, but an actual left-of-center party would create competition jeff47 Jul 2015 #119

In Pres election years, turnout is all determined at the top of the slate. Will Third Way Hill GOTV? leveymg Jul 2015 #25

she is polling very well 6chars Jul 2015 #103

I disagree. It's becoming clearer and clearer what the stakes are. Dems will show up, imo. pinto Jul 2015 #27

So, it is not just me...... djean111 Jul 2015 #28

Yep, party elites trying to shove Murphy down our throats. HooptieWagon Jul 2015 #31

They've been doing that for years in Florida. Fuddnik Jul 2015 #62

It is so frustrating to be condescendingly told we need to elect local Progressives if we djean111 Jul 2015 #73

FL's Demo party is worse than TX's: Enough power to sabotage anyone left of Eisenhower. Eleanors38 Jul 2015 #115

I have said before... SoapBox Jul 2015 #34

Can someone tell me FloridaBlues Jul 2015 #36

He's not an Independant candidate. HooptieWagon Jul 2015 #47

He says "I want to run in the Democratic primary" and the party says "Ok". jeff47 Jul 2015 #60

Hillary Bush vs Jeb Clinton will depress turnout 4139 Jul 2015 #38

Nope. Republicans will be thrilled to vote against Clinton. jeff47 Jul 2015 #61

Unfortunately, Thespian2 Jul 2015 #43

Not a shock MFrohike Jul 2015 #44

All House & Senate Wall Street Dems who voted for fast track should be primaried by real Dems stuffmatters Jul 2015 #46

Which is why a Sanders Presidency is important. HooptieWagon Jul 2015 #52

I have never heard of Gaius Publius or Howie Klein Politicub Jul 2015 #53

Then I'd hope the base is Blue_Tires Jul 2015 #56

"if the voters don't respond to the program it's not the fault of the program, now is it?" MisterP Jul 2015 #64

Deja Vu all over again. Springslips Jul 2015 #70

The Corporate Dems gave up claiming only Corporate Dems can win in Red States.... Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2015 #71

It's funny the blogger bring up the 21st... bobclark86 Jul 2015 #77

Not surprising swilton Jul 2015 #78

They still get rich regardless of turnout. That's all they care about. CharlotteVale Jul 2015 #80

"Smart Democrats are worried about base turnout In 2016" malokvale77 Jul 2015 #88

This is exactly the problem with our party right now davidpdx Jul 2015 #89

The only way there's a "horse race" is if the MSM... joshcryer Jul 2015 #91

It seems our VOTERS learned absolutely nothing from the 2014 losses. True Blue Door Jul 2015 #96

They should be worried.. sendero Jul 2015 #98

Triangulation HassleCat Jul 2015 #104

This is only one big reason of many reasons Hillary will lose the GE. L0oniX Jul 2015 #108

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