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magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
20. his story has varied with each telling, but at his hearing
Wed May 16, 2012, 03:56 PM
May 2012

he claimed that Trayvon circled his car repeatedly.

Which, naturally, begs the question why he did he get out of his car if he was so afraid?


He also claimed that Trayvon pinned his shoulders down. And had his hand over his mouth and tried to smother him. And repeatedly banged his head on the ground. And spotted the gun and tried to grab it. And then they wrestled for it.

Which, naturally, begs the questions how many hands did Trayvon have? And how was Zimmy screaming for help -- for 40 seconds on the 911 tape -- with Trayvon's hand over his mouth trying to smother him?


He also claimed at the hearing that after Trayvon had him pinned to the ground with hand over his mouth, etc. that he "managed to scoot away" and shot Trayvon from a short distance.

See, this is what happens when you lie, and then evidence turns up that conflicts with your lies. You start modifying your story to fit with the unexpected facts. And then more evidence, such as forensic evidence showing the angle and distance of the shot, conflicts with the new version. So you modify the story again, until it is a convoluted mess that is anatomically impossible and makes no sense.

And as Judge Judy says, "If it doesn't make sense, it's a lie!"

Occam's Razor, and my personal experience with being stalked by a strange man in a car, tells me that Trayvon may well have turned and confronted him. Trayvon may well have gotten off a lucky punch, knocked him down and he hit his head on the paved walkway between the townhouses. And that's when he pulled his gun, pointed it at Trayvon who started calling for help. And then shot him.

There was no heroic, insane wrestling match on the ground with an 8-armed Trayvon pinning him down, pounding his head repeatedly into the concrete, smothering him, spotting the gun and trying to wrestle it away from him...and so on.

As far as the profiling, I don't know what the definition is. But yesterday's news reports said the FBI is now interviewing witnesses as part of the Federal investigation as to whether this was a hate crime.

"new information surfacing about Zimmerman"... Little Star May 2012 #1
Why would that be that case? K.T.M. May 2012 #63
i hope Trayvon did break the mother fuckers nose 2pooped2pop May 2012 #2
My position has always been that Trayvon had the right to defend himself. Baitball Blogger May 2012 #3
What do you base that on? mactime May 2012 #4
Why don't you answer why he was stalking the kid? TBF May 2012 #5
Exactly! Little Star May 2012 #10
He said he was "following" him. If someone was following me, first in his car and then gets out and jwirr May 2012 #11
stalking magical thyme May 2012 #12
I hve, too, but he was on foot obamanut2012 May 2012 #55
yes. very, very scary. good to know yours was arrested. magical thyme May 2012 #57
Mine was cell phone days, and called the cops obamanut2012 May 2012 #58
I kinda figured magical thyme May 2012 #60
That is REALLY scary! obamanut2012 May 2012 #72
Zimmerman had a gun, he stalked a perfectly innocent citizen causing that citizen to fear for his sabrina 1 May 2012 #15
So there is no evidence mactime May 2012 #26
Are you serious? vanlassie May 2012 #38
"Just doesn't add up." Capt. Obvious May 2012 #47
Actually it does add up. Listen to him on the phone, "They always get away." vaberella May 2012 #49
Exactly! Little Star May 2012 #71
Yes there is, the girl friends call and the calls for help that ZMan wont submit to voice anaylysis uponit7771 May 2012 #69
Zimmerman had no right following/stalking Trayvon and Little Star May 2012 #9
If he had a gun... MyTwoSense May 2012 #6
He was told not to follow Trayvon malaise May 2012 #8
Does it meet the legal threshold for stalking? exboyfil May 2012 #24
Riiight, the shooter had a violent history and the kid had none. louis-t May 2012 #13
How is a HOA watch person identified? Do they have a badge or something? If not then they are jwirr May 2012 #14
bingo Little Star May 2012 #17
his story has varied with each telling, but at his hearing magical thyme May 2012 #20
you were approached, in broad daylight, by someone that identified themselves.. frylock May 2012 #28
That's as plausible a theory as anything else I'v seen here badtoworse May 2012 #29
Good, I hope he got in a few good punches. Scuba May 2012 #7
Well, that is what probably got him killed mactime May 2012 #27
Sounds to me like he was defending himself, but I'll admit I'm way outside looking in. Scuba May 2012 #32
so now you're arguing against self defense? frylock May 2012 #35
Unlikely mactime May 2012 #37
all indications are that if Zimmerman had stayed in his car magical thyme May 2012 #40
Yup Yup. n/t vaberella May 2012 #50
All current indications are that if Zimmerman were never born, Trayvon would still be alive. Capt. Obvious May 2012 #48
all current indications are that you don't know fuckall.. frylock May 2012 #59
If someone was pointing a gun at me, I'd have the right to try Lex May 2012 #16
yep. Little Star May 2012 #18
Sounds like someone who was fighting for their life nt MrScorpio May 2012 #19
All I have to say.... all american girl May 2012 #21
I am not defending Zimmerman but exboyfil May 2012 #22
Not to dismiss your thoughts but... Little Star May 2012 #23
First I've seen of some of what you are stating magical thyme May 2012 #25
Your post states several incorrect pieces of information obamanut2012 May 2012 #33
I guess they feel they can talk about knuckles Life Long Dem May 2012 #30
This message was self-deleted by its author devilgrrl May 2012 #31
Thank God he got shot. WilliamPitt May 2012 #34
Huh? Little Star May 2012 #36
think sarcasm. he just left out the icon. nt magical thyme May 2012 #41
I thought the 'Or something' had that covered. WilliamPitt May 2012 #42
Read my comment #45. I plead old age, lol. But it's true. Little Star May 2012 #46
I hate being old! I rarely get sarcasm. Thanks! Little Star May 2012 #45
This news is not going to be well received. Zax2me May 2012 #39
One abrasion on one knuckle is "well recived" by me obamanut2012 May 2012 #51
Bout time somebody said it. One knuckle? You gotta be kidding me. Solomon May 2012 #53
Small abrasion on his left ring finger obamanut2012 May 2012 #54
pretty sure they had nothing to do with the gunshot that killed him... ibegurpard May 2012 #43
one injury on one knuckle- I call bullshit on your thread title Beaverhausen May 2012 #44
+1. I just banged up a knuckle installing a new faucet for the kitchen sink. gkhouston May 2012 #52
+1 obamanut2012 May 2012 #56
****THIS REPORT IS FALSE, NO INJURIES TO KNUCKES IT WAS SMALL CUT ON FINGER***** uponit7771 May 2012 #61
I believe that it is false. K.T.M. May 2012 #62
This is sloppy reporting, they're not quoting the official report that has just a small abrasion uponit7771 May 2012 #64
was Trayvon left handed? Bluerthanblue May 2012 #65
Yet the video of him only 30 min. after the killing shows NO signs of a broken nose or swollen lips. jenmito May 2012 #66
ONE knuckle, the ring finger knuckle. Autumn May 2012 #67
yeap, very intersting the spin the MSM is trying to put on this. NO wonder these people want the uponit7771 May 2012 #68
a typical defensive wound. librechik May 2012 #70
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