Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

General Discussion

In reply to the discussion: Post removed [View all]
 

Prism

(5,815 posts)
32. It's trickier
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 02:38 PM
Jul 2015

For a host of reasons.

The reason gay marriage worked successfully is because you had a lot of things going for it.

1. Intrinsic biological disposition. Orientation is an easier argument to make for sex/gender attraction. Polygamy is actually a choice (just as monogamy is a choice).

2. Insertion into an already established structure. Marriage and family law already exist to handle two person couples. Polygamy would require family laws to be rejiggered in profound ways. Does anyone want to see a three-parent custody battle? Gay marriage argued for inclusion into the already established institution. Polygamy would create something new.

3. Numbers and profusion. Gay people are not only a significant percentage of the population, they exhibit their orientation early on. People have gay children. It is an identity that suffuses through just about every family in America in some way when the individuals are young (modern evolution of this social acceptance, of course). I cannot imagine you're going to see polygamists in the kinds of numbers you see LGBTers or as deeply ingrained in American families and workplaces over time. Without those numbers, a political movement is very hard to get to gain traction.

4. Gay marriage doesn't have a known history of abuse. At least, not more so than any other union. Polygamy has a known history of disparate impact, particularly on women.

Those are just the four big ones I can think of off the top of my head. Absent a court decision (and who knows there), I can't see it. But, you know, people said the same thing about gay marriage, that the day would never come because the notion was too radical. I can easily be wrong.

At this point in time, I'm not in favor of it. Polyamory is fine. People can make their own relationship choices. I'm a gay man in an open relationship, so I'm certainly not running around judging anyone for their arrangements. But the dramatic restructuring of law, the potential for abuse, and the potential of a slippery slope (at what number do we draw any lines?) have me in the "no" column at this point in time.

But I'm not going to hate on anyone who wants it or agitates for it. If they achieve it, more power to them.

Post removed [View all] Post removed Jul 2015 OP
Sooner. n/t meaculpa2011 Jul 2015 #1
That's funny because B2G Jul 2015 #2
Not my battle, and considering that Mormons were closeupready Jul 2015 #3
In fact, polygamy became an issue in admitting Utah to the Union KamaAina Jul 2015 #16
Yep. Exactly right. closeupready Jul 2015 #19
Does polygamy go both ways? cwydro Jul 2015 #4
Why couldn't it ? Bonx Jul 2015 #8
No, just an honest one. cwydro Jul 2015 #10
This message was self-deleted by its author Xyzse Jul 2015 #12
There's this indian tribe near the Amazon that does it. Saw a documentary about it once. craigmatic Jul 2015 #14
examples Bonx Jul 2015 #15
I cannot imagine more than one partner. cwydro Jul 2015 #20
Me either Bonx Jul 2015 #21
I'm gay too, cwydro Jul 2015 #23
A number of tribes in India, although the practice is fading now mainer Jul 2015 #22
I was an anthropology minor, cwydro Jul 2015 #25
Try Nepal and the sherpas catrose Jul 2015 #35
Polyandry.nt LittleBlue Jul 2015 #9
Sure, but why would she want them? The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2015 #26
Lol! cwydro Jul 2015 #30
Probably LittleBlue Jul 2015 #5
I think you're right. Bonx Jul 2015 #6
Saudi Arabia was right all along! NuclearDem Jul 2015 #7
There's no coherent argument against it Taitertots Jul 2015 #11
or a couple sister wives, or a wife and a husband. Bonx Jul 2015 #18
How do you rewrite all the laws to take account of multiple spouses? muriel_volestrangler Jul 2015 #37
You make 1 new law that says: all that old crap is to be replaced by new crap. Calista241 Jul 2015 #40
You add an "s" to "spouse", "husband" or "wife"?... n/t PoliticAverse Jul 2015 #41
Isolated polygamists aren't a problem. A whole society built around polygamy Ex Lurker Jul 2015 #44
I'm thinking way, way less thant that. cherokeeprogressive Jul 2015 #13
Polygamous marriage won't be a problem. GliderGuider Jul 2015 #17
Never. JaneyVee Jul 2015 #24
+1 .. n/t obnoxiousdrunk Jul 2015 #27
What do you think so? ismnotwasm Jul 2015 #28
highly doubtful WI_DEM Jul 2015 #29
Why do you believe this to be true and where? Snobblevitch Jul 2015 #31
It's trickier Prism Jul 2015 #32
This message was self-deleted by its author GoneOffShore Jul 2015 #34
+1 prayin4rain Jul 2015 #45
I bet you're wrong. onenote Jul 2015 #33
the next obvious question is 'why 2?' HFRN Jul 2015 #36
So some dude is gonna have five wives when I can't even get ONE? Blue_Tires Jul 2015 #38
Sorry, but anyone who thinks that this is in any way comparable to gay marriage is a moron Spider Jerusalem Jul 2015 #39
Reynolds v. United States 1878 underpants Jul 2015 #42
This thread rubbed someone the wrong way Capt. Obvious Jul 2015 #43
Latest Discussions»General Discussion»Post removed»Reply #32