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djean111

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166. Or - the "question" is more of a condescending explanation of why we delusional Sanders supporters

Tue Jun 23, 2015, 09:08 AM

Jun 2015

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should just support Hillary right now, because MONEY, and is really more rhetorical than genuine.
Plus - it is not like anybody must answer it, and failing to do so, satisfactorily, will force Bernie's supporters to say Oh, dang! Principles and policy! WTF were we thinking! and hurriedly ordering some HRC bumper stickers.
Plus, yeah, comparing Bernie to someone running as a third party candidate and with dissimilar views on the majority of things - a "question" with questionable premises. So, doesn't really deserve an answer, IMO.

Whydon't Hillary supporters just sit back, support Hillary, and gloat amongst themselves? That's my question.

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Explain to me why Bernie Sanders isn't 2016's Ron Paul... [View all] brooklynite Jun 2015 OP

Ron Paul is an idiot. Bernie is not. He's a pretty smart cookie. eom Cleita Jun 2015 #1

Care to elaborate on how those smarts apply to a national campaign? brooklynite Jun 2015 #2

I don't think I can as I'm not running his campaign. Eom Cleita Jun 2015 #11

That lack of K-Street is part of his appeal, and part of the disdain people have for other canidates orpupilofnature57 Jun 2015 #106

He's not a crazy old racist Libertarian? bravenak Jun 2015 #3

Thank You. PotatoChip Jun 2015 #21

There is that, but now you are being picky randys1 Jun 2015 #46

Well, there IS that... nt hifiguy Jun 2015 #62

The Pauls' racism is reflected in their stances on "property rights" to reject the Civil Rights Act. cascadiance Jun 2015 #91

Have I mentioned yet today how much I love you, bravenak?! smokey nj Jun 2015 #119

Yay! bravenak Jun 2015 #132

Heh! +1 LondonReign2 Jun 2015 #171

Gee. we need another Bernie Sanders compared to Ron Paul thread neverforget Jun 2015 #4

It's just par for the course Art_from_Ark Jun 2015 #97

It's the latest meme AgingAmerican Jun 2015 #157

His son doesn't have a weasel on top of his head? KamaAina Jun 2015 #5

Ok that made me laugh Evergreen Emerald Jun 2015 #34

That thing may come to life at any moment hifiguy Jun 2015 #64

Ha-- I forgot about Aqua Buddha! Evergreen Emerald Jun 2015 #67

Rand Paul is not going to be the GOP 2016 nominee Gothmog Jun 2015 #123

OMG... CherokeeDem Jun 2015 #152

In the running for dumb OP of the day hobbit709 Jun 2015 #6

Runaway winner, IMO. hifiguy Jun 2015 #65

Geez you are asking for it. upaloopa Jun 2015 #7

There is no difference between Democrats and Republicans so you are probably right... Agony Jun 2015 #8

Explain to me why Hillary Clinton isn't 2016's Mitt Romney... earthside Jun 2015 #9

Not so hard! I felt that all the way over here. Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2015 #13

Oh, my, THAT is gonna leave a mark. hifiguy Jun 2015 #66

Mitt Romney jamzrockz Jun 2015 #77

Mitt did win the nomination, but loss the GE. Exilednight Jun 2015 #128

The GOP does not have an Obama type candidate or even someone close Gothmog Jun 2015 #80

Because of a progressive enough record? Wingers are going with the meme that Hillary is too uponit7771 Jun 2015 #116

OUCH !!! (word)... WillyT Jun 2015 #121

That is a fair comparison ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #131

Who needs principles, a solid record & well-stated positions when you have Hillary and her money! Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2015 #10

If you are so convinced he will fizzle out, why not wait and see what happens? djean111 Jun 2015 #12

You only take flak when you're over the target. Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2015 #16

Yes. Comparing Bernie to Paul seems to be the meme of the day. Yawn. djean111 Jun 2015 #18

The 2008 acronym "FUD" comes to mind n/t arcane1 Jun 2015 #28

Ah. I think it is having the opposite effect. n/t djean111 Jun 2015 #30

Indeed it is! arcane1 Jun 2015 #38

and, to paraphrase something someone said elsewhere - djean111 Jun 2015 #41

Exactly. All this 2008 revisiting has been very selective. And missing an important fact: arcane1 Jun 2015 #48

There is no one like Obama on either side of the field Gothmog Jun 2015 #82

Oh, right-- because Obama was so advantaged. Marr Jun 2015 #142

I'd be delighted to: brooklynite Jun 2015 #100

She self destructed in 08 AgingAmerican Jun 2015 #159

Maybe it was because she lost to jamzrockz Jun 2015 #109

The main theme of his campaign is income inequality. RDANGELO Jun 2015 #14

Glad y'all have a new dead horse to ride. Ride on! morningfog Jun 2015 #15

The weekly meme has been reduced to statistics and time travel, before a single primary vote. arcane1 Jun 2015 #36

Of course not. And we all know that women and black voters would never morningfog Jun 2015 #138

-1. n/t NRaleighLiberal Jun 2015 #17

Your concern is noted. Frankly I don't understand why you give a rip though. bluesbassman Jun 2015 #19

Bless your heart... Fumesucker Jun 2015 #20

ha Ha HA! Agony Jun 2015 #24

Oh, thank you!!!!!! djean111 Jun 2015 #35

DUzy, DUzy, DUzy!! hifiguy Jun 2015 #71

I don't think you missed anything. leftofcool Jun 2015 #22

I need the distraction nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #23

Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2015 #51

Here, a full tub nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #56

This is not about Sanders, brooklynite. OilemFirchen Jun 2015 #25

"His ardent fans, though, are indistinguishable from Paulbots." Wow madfloridian Jun 2015 #39

"Wow" OilemFirchen Jun 2015 #47

That's the new marching order, since smearing Sanders himself has failed so spectacularly. arcane1 Jun 2015 #57

Super Non Sequitor! OilemFirchen Jun 2015 #83

You're in luck: I never said you did. I simply said smearing Sanders hasn't worked out. arcane1 Jun 2015 #86

Nice try at what? OilemFirchen Jun 2015 #102

The Ron Paul comparison is another way to smear Bernie as a racist without smokey nj Jun 2015 #95

Comparisons aspirant Jun 2015 #144

I knew I'd missed somebody on the list of pointless, time-wasting insultmongers to add to ignore! nt Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jun 2015 #52

I would have been heartbroken if you had missed me. OilemFirchen Jun 2015 #59

Jury results. edbermac Jun 2015 #61

Whew! A squeaker! OilemFirchen Jun 2015 #75

Projection AgingAmerican Jun 2015 #158

First, he has WAY better hair hootinholler Jun 2015 #26

Check your Rolex, don't you have a tee time or something? whatchamacallit Jun 2015 #27

SNORT!!!! That was FUNNY as hell nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #44

Cotillion. The word you were looking for is "cotillion". ret5hd Jun 2015 #84

No it's a "salon" riderinthestorm Jun 2015 #146

Pardon me U4ikLefty Jun 2015 #154

I'll wait until the TV debates. karadax Jun 2015 #29

That's a very astute observation shenmue Jun 2015 #31

Why Hillary isn't 2016's Sarah Palin.... Rosa Luxemburg Jun 2015 #32

you really shouldn't wendylaroux Jun 2015 #33

This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Jun 2015 #58

No, she won't. It is a legitimate question. leftofcool Jun 2015 #60

. tk2kewl Jun 2015 #78

I don't feel the need to educate everyone who is wrong. Kalidurga Jun 2015 #37

Bernie's ideas areMos more attuned to mainstream Americans' ideas and experiences in recent JDPriestly Jun 2015 #40

Ron Paul also has popular ideas Recursion Jun 2015 #151

Except Bernie Sanders is speaking to the issues that Americans are angry about and that JDPriestly Jun 2015 #164

Uh, the fact that the election is 16 months away? Warpy Jun 2015 #42

Ron Paul's views are scary, Bernie's views are wise and progressive. madfloridian Jun 2015 #43

Ron Paul's ideological ceiling was 20% maybe Report1212 Jun 2015 #45

Ron Paul's philosophy is full of shit... lame54 Jun 2015 #49

I'll explain that Horizens Jun 2015 #50

And that is the problem with Bernie. leftofcool Jun 2015 #68

The extreme liberal left who supports him make up just about 12% of Democrats." bluesbassman Jun 2015 #85

So you are saying that Bernie's message sadoldgirl Jun 2015 #88

Not-so-clever use of the word "hatred" to make him appear irrational. arcane1 Jun 2015 #101

Corruption is Corruption Horizens Jun 2015 #107

Why would he need money when he has over 300,000 volunteers ready and able to work for him Oh Yes Jun 2015 #141

Are you lying... ljm2002 Jun 2015 #155

This is what you're missing Trajan Jun 2015 #53

I've said before, I have -no- objection to any of sanders's positions... brooklynite Jun 2015 #103

So you admit he is the better candidate AgingAmerican Jun 2015 #161

No - I say I'm happy with either. brooklynite Jun 2015 #165

Bullshit AgingAmerican Jun 2015 #169

Point to a "rant" where I've challenged a position of Bernie brooklynite Jun 2015 #173

Still waiting... brooklynite Jun 2015 #178

He wins the Iowa caucus.. it is a caucus and Motown_Johnny Jun 2015 #54

And whatever one may say about HRC hifiguy Jun 2015 #63

I thought that the groundgame was important in Iowa for the Democratic side Gothmog Jun 2015 #125

apparently, Bernie has a large number of volunteers Motown_Johnny Jun 2015 #129

Volunteers are great if they are coordinated Gothmog Jun 2015 #181

I am not getting into this mess but I don't remember Papa Paul polling in the 20s or... DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2015 #55

Allow Del Griffith to respond: Juicy_Bellows Jun 2015 #69

Copying my reply from a similar ridiculous thread Grilled Charlie Jun 2015 #70

Good answer---welcome to DU! panader0 Jun 2015 #130

Well, it looks like talking points for the week of 6/22 have been issued. frylock Jun 2015 #72

Yup! elleng Jun 2015 #127

Ron has a twinkly smile and Bernie has a trademark scowl? ucrdem Jun 2015 #73

You have any links to quotes that establishes Sanders is "running on ODS and Clinton fatigue"? bluesbassman Jun 2015 #87

So glad you asked! ucrdem Jun 2015 #89

That's what you consider "ODS", and "sarcastic tone"? bluesbassman Jun 2015 #110

"Truth, per the USTR"... ljm2002 Jun 2015 #163

2nd page of Sanders Jan. 5 letter: ucrdem Jun 2015 #111

Sanders: "Obama sounds like Bush and Clinton on trade" ucrdem Jun 2015 #112

So what? These links and page 2 of the letter are about the TPP. bluesbassman Jun 2015 #118

Love those links, thanks Autumn Jan 2016 #183

Sanders Calls Hillary Clinton Foundation Money ‘A Very Serious Problem’ ucrdem Jun 2015 #113

Sanders accuses Hillary Clinton of 'cop-out' on trade ucrdem Jun 2015 #117

Sanders' speeches are loaded with policy positions... ljm2002 Jun 2015 #160

I will let The Dude speak for me. hifiguy Jun 2015 #74

Elections and primaries are expensive Gothmog Jun 2015 #76

Subtlety. GeorgeGist Jun 2015 #79

Because there will not come a point when those intrigued by Sanders say MannyGoldstein Jun 2015 #81

You mean to say Bernie doesn't hang out at salons with Ron Paul? Rex Jun 2015 #99

Because he doesn't hate blacks and jews? Blue_Tires Jun 2015 #90

Ron Paul is a libertarian. sadoldgirl Jun 2015 #92

What are you missing? Objectivity. nt mother earth Jun 2015 #93

That, and empathy Art_from_Ark Jun 2015 #108

Agreed. mother earth Jun 2015 #182

He kinda has this thing against billionaires for almost destroy the world economy. Rex Jun 2015 #94

+1 deutsey Jun 2015 #137

First we heard that Sanders should drop out because he didn't have a chance of winning the general tularetom Jun 2015 #96

The Ron Paul thing is another stab at the racist thing. They've been doing it since before he smokey nj Jun 2015 #114

It case you didn't notice (and it's clear that most of you didn't) brooklynite Jun 2015 #98

The way Bernie is going I think he will win the nomination....IMHO...n/t monmouth4 Jun 2015 #104

Do you actually read your posts before pushing that "Post my reply!" button? tularetom Jun 2015 #120

Condescending... brooklynite Jun 2015 #139

Your talking about Chess not Views and Solutions, Two different Species . That's Our orpupilofnature57 Jun 2015 #105

He's Senator Howard Stackhouse from The West Wing. onehandle Jun 2015 #115

What do you care? Blue_In_AK Jun 2015 #122

It's another way to smear Bernie as a racist without actually calling him a racist. smokey nj Jun 2015 #124

who says he needs to DonCoquixote Jun 2015 #126

Bernie doesn't ask people donate... Omaha Steve Jun 2015 #133

Ron Paul is batshit insane, for one. nt geek tragedy Jun 2015 #134

LBJ polled way ahead of Eugene McCarthy in '68. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2015 #135

I see a lot of responses; but, few addressing your question ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #136

Or - the "question" is more of a condescending explanation of why we delusional Sanders supporters djean111 Jun 2015 #166

Are you lumping me in with HRC supporters? n/t 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #168

I was referring to the OP, and the author of the OP. djean111 Jun 2015 #170

Oh ... Okay ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #174

I meant the people who are busily enlightening Bernie supporters with tales of money over policy, djean111 Jun 2015 #175

Have I done any of that? n/t 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #176

Your initial post was directed at the OP. My answers were about the OP. I will fix my post djean111 Jun 2015 #177

Thank you. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #179

There are similarities. DCBob Jun 2015 #140

WOW Caretha Jun 2015 #143

What are you missing? Besides the experience of working for a living? Marr Jun 2015 #145

Feel free to embellish your stereotypes some more... brooklynite Jun 2015 #150

My sincere apologies-- I made an unfair assumption. /nt Marr Jun 2015 #153

I don't need to explain anything ibegurpard Jun 2015 #147

One big difference: kentuck Jun 2015 #148

Harry Truman v Dewey. It's almost exactly the same political climate riderinthestorm Jun 2015 #149

Bernie tells the truth AgingAmerican Jun 2015 #156

Another smear attempt AgingAmerican Jun 2015 #162

Explain to me why Hillary isn't 2016's LBJ who will have us at war with KingCharlemagne Jun 2015 #167

Ask again in a year. Orsino Jun 2015 #172

“The arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends towards justice.” Jeroen Jun 2015 #180