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In reply to the discussion: In 2003, Rep. Sanders voted to protect "lawful commerce in arms": [View all]leftofcool
(19,460 posts)298. We care about more than that as Democrats.
You are either a Democrat or you are not, period. Sanders is not a Democrat. He is going to have one hell of a time even getting on the ballots in some states.
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Please. Are you seriously trying to condemn Sanders for a no vote on THIS Head Start bill?
marym625
Jun 2015
#57
It was a $35 billion funding bill. What would have happened if it hadn't passed?
ucrdem
Jun 2015
#72
Good post. Cant believe how far some others here hafta stretch to supposedly find fault with Bernie, when there is none.
InAbLuEsTaTe
Jun 2015
#207
Had me laughing earlier. It also gives me confidence Bernie might just pull this thing off...
InAbLuEsTaTe
Jun 2015
#329
Almost every House Democrat voted against the Head Start bill your OP cited, as the pie chart at
merrily
Jun 2015
#7
Funding Head Start bad, funding Iraq war good? Because that's how his votes sort out. nt
ucrdem
Jun 2015
#13
Violating Separation of Church and State in Head Start BAD, Iraq war INFINITELY WORSE.
merrily
Jun 2015
#17
I already responding to your funding comment. BTW, how did Hillary vote on those things?
merrily
Jun 2015
#28
It was a bad thing, but Sanders was not able to thwart it. It passed the House, but never came to a
merrily
Jun 2015
#89
The fact is that he voted to fund the DoD, imminent war and all, and Homeland Security.
ucrdem
Jun 2015
#208
Nice that you skip the things I mentioned but I don't find it surprising considering the OP.
marym625
Jun 2015
#217
The fact is that you're avoiding the difficult questions. I don't blame you. nt
ucrdem
Jun 2015
#227
Sanders voted against a $35 billion Head Start bill and for funding the Iraq War.
ucrdem
Jun 2015
#11
OMG. An even more shameful reply. He voted AGAINST the war. Once those who ADVOCATED for it,
merrily
Jun 2015
#19
Without the Defense funding the Iraq war wouldn't have happened. Sanders voted to fund it. nt
ucrdem
Jun 2015
#97
Sanders voted to fund it the same day as AUMF, five months before Bush declared war.
ucrdem
Jun 2015
#112
Linking 2003 funding to a 2003 war approved the same day and declared five months later?
ucrdem
Jun 2015
#125
IRRELEVANT. Funding a war for which Congress voted is the ONLY decent thing to do. Again, ask Kerry
merrily
Jun 2015
#135
I made my point for those cared to read....apparently that wasn't what you'd read
Sheepshank
Jun 2015
#313
That is very true, sometimes people get stuck in their snarking rather than forwarding the
uppityperson
Jun 2015
#326
Yep. His voting record does speak volumes. Thank heaven it does, so it stands up to smears.
merrily
Jun 2015
#22
No shit. I obviously knew that, given my replies. You might try reading a post before you reply.
merrily
Jun 2015
#29
Well, I am not leaping to the conclusion that the OP actually checked 24 years of Bernie's votes,
merrily
Jun 2015
#96
It's a Loco thing. Just crazy, they got nothing else. Edited to thank the jury.
Autumn
Jun 2015
#178
Hmm. A post of mine on this thread got alerted on as well. Same vote, too: 0-7 to leave. Bad alerts.
merrily
Jun 2015
#282
I don't know if that's enough. Some of the alerts I've seen, especially lately, have been
merrily
Jun 2015
#293
Yup yup, knocked that one outta the park...kiss it goodbye...it's a Grand Slam!...
InAbLuEsTaTe
Jun 2015
#331
Actually it's his ideas that need the support. But yeah, he's the only choice out there
jtuck004
Jun 2015
#333
Yes, I see your point, but this is a WAY different political climate. Times have changed a lot since the early 80's. It's our time now.
InAbLuEsTaTe
Jun 2015
#339
Understand, I heard the same story back then. Really nothing new, though I know many can't see that.
jtuck004
Jun 2015
#341
Fair point, I see where you're coming from. Yes, we'll see. And we saw what the media did to Howard Dean more recently, so obviously, anything csn happen.
InAbLuEsTaTe
Jun 2015
#357
As far as I am concerned, religious doesn't applied to Sanders' campaign and he's becoming strongest
TRoN33
Jun 2015
#20
Have you been reading the replies to this thread? HE VOTED WITH THE DEMOCRATIC CAUCUS.
merrily
Jun 2015
#31
But , but I've been hearing here that he's the one who will vote his principles
MoonRiver
Jun 2015
#47
Ucrdem nice politically bait. These bill of rights are still fresh in my mind and it's filled with..
TRoN33
Jun 2015
#18
Desperation reeks. Once war is declared, not funding would be heinous. Ask Kerry. And Hillary.
merrily
Jun 2015
#33
Like HELL. Dude, the hole you've been digging is way deep enough. Stop digging.
merrily
Jun 2015
#69
Nevertheless it is not accurate to call him a Democrat, and it's within his power to change that.
ucrdem
Jun 2015
#42
You understand that they mean challenging Hillary for the Dem Presidential nom, right?
merrily
Jun 2015
#193
What's with the "republicon smear job" accusation when you're only posting his voting record?
Cha
Jun 2015
#43
Thanks. 0 to 7 to leave it. Thanks, Juror 7: "The most unwarranted alert I've seen."
merrily
Jun 2015
#226
Um, yes he is. The DNC immediately used his unofficial announcement to fund raise for itsself.
merrily
Jun 2015
#76
Which was about 42.5 seconds after he announced unofficially that he was running as a Democrat.
merrily
Jun 2015
#295
Take that up with Debbie Wasserman Schultz. The DNC thinks Bernie is a Democrat.
merrily
Jun 2015
#174
Yeah, right. The DNC is praising someone from another party to the skies and raising money off him
merrily
Jun 2015
#210
BECAUSE ANYONE WOULD REALIZE THAT FROM WHAT THEY DID SAY THAT THEY WERE WELCOMING A DEMOCRAT
merrily
Jun 2015
#221
Please stop repeating yourself endlessly. I've already admitted I don't know how to help you
merrily
Jun 2015
#229
I did. You apparently can't get that. And that inability of yours is what I cannot help you with.
merrily
Jun 2015
#238
So you think having a D next to a name and voting for corporate interests makes a candidate a Dem?
HooptieWagon
Jun 2015
#186
When they start using the insult "shills".. they are the ones who are "desperate".
Cha
Jun 2015
#337
Mahalo for doing the research, ucr. We should know the record of history on all candidates..
Cha
Jun 2015
#36
Read reply #1 Cha. This isn't an honest OP. It is true, but not honest. Bernie voted the way most Ds
peacebird
Jun 2015
#52
Shit stirring is fine and well, but as reply #1 clearly showed Bernie voted along with most Dems
peacebird
Jun 2015
#80
Oh? Please share your evidence. Surely you can back up such a baldly false claim?
ucrdem
Jun 2015
#202
So, walking back your false claim that the OP was provided to me? Can't blame you.
ucrdem
Jun 2015
#223
OMG. He voted against the war. It was declared. He voted for funding because voting NAY would have
merrily
Jun 2015
#64
The AUMF and funding votes were on October 10, 2002. Bush declared war on March 19, 2003.
ucrdem
Jun 2015
#85
We all know when the war started, which is what your link tells us. Also, your very own Reply 45
merrily
Jun 2015
#108
AUMF and DoD funding votes were both on Oct 10, 2002. Bush declared war five months later.
ucrdem
Jun 2015
#119
BTW, the President doesn't declare war. Congress does, then the President acts as CIC.
merrily
Jun 2015
#139
The fact is that Sanders voted up the money five months in advance of the bombs.
ucrdem
Jun 2015
#146
Your claims about the relation between war votes and funding votes are a total non starter.
merrily
Jun 2015
#154
Yep. 100% righteously on Bernie's part, but not on Hillary's. Please see my edit.
merrily
Jun 2015
#160
Thanks, I am now 100% behind Hillary because she has never voted in a way that could be taken out of
corkhead
Jun 2015
#71
Purpose: To protect manufacturers, distributors, dealers, or importers of firearms or ammunition
ucrdem
Jun 2015
#79
Nobody's refuting HR 1036 - Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms. Which is a problem. nt
ucrdem
Jun 2015
#93
I'm saying there are some votes Sanders' supporters don't seem to want to talk about.
ucrdem
Jun 2015
#103
It's in there, with a link to Sanders' vote. Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act:
ucrdem
Jun 2015
#113
I sit corrected. Only 90% of your OP has been debunked in comments so far. nt
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
Jun 2015
#116
Not at all. He's ranked THE #1 most liberal Senator in the US Senate, even with those votes.
merrily
Jun 2015
#179
Total desperation and now the convenient lie is, "gee everyone here likes to fight, because I say so."
Rex
Jun 2015
#320
Oh, I meant that this would show up in a search and easily linked to. Why four of these?
djean111
Jun 2015
#134
If I click on latest threads, this thread shows up multiple times, with varying numbers of
djean111
Jun 2015
#142
You are correct. Bernie Sanders record is even better than most already know.
marym625
Jun 2015
#165
Yes, I think we've covered Head Start. How about giving immunity to arms dealers
ucrdem
Jun 2015
#209
2003, wasn't that the year Bush got his war on, thanks to Hillary Clinton, in part?
SaranchaIsWaiting
Jun 2015
#236
and the stuff dug up actually proves Sanders to be a fighter for the people and against the GOP.
marym625
Jun 2015
#257
I love watching these dishonest OPs push away people they pretend to be trying to get on their side.
Rex
Jun 2015
#319
Here's partial list of House Dems who voted to fund DOD like Sanders in the same Oct 10, 2002 vote
Depaysement
Jun 2015
#314
In 2003, Rep. Sanders voted AGAINST Head Start, AGAINST a jobs bill-- THE ORIGINAL POST
hobbit709
Jun 2015
#315
Ah, I love watching a few 'dedicated' people push more and more folks into the Bernie camp!
Rex
Jun 2015
#318
You left out the first AUMF authorization in 2001. Only Barbara Lee voted against in 2001:
freshwest
Jun 2015
#327
I keep remembering a line: 'The world is not a nice place. And these are not nice people.' Speaking
freshwest
Jun 2015
#346
Sums up my feelings as well. Neither are perfect, but will gladly support the primary winner
Elwood P Dowd
Jun 2015
#330
Bottom line: Sanders has an F rating from the NRA and this is nowhere near advocating for a
merrily
Jun 2015
#355
The Hillary borg breached the space-time continuum and folded GD into a mojogon.
ucrdem
Jun 2015
#369