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In reply to the discussion: "Oh @#$&. That's The Truth." [View all]delrem
(9,688 posts)That isn't how discussion works in a forum like this as it expects instantaneous processing, at best, and it also expects a certain receptivity that should never be assumed in a forum-level discussion with thousands of anonymous strangers.
My mind has been "changed" the most by study of texts explaining things like basic techniques of rhetoric, the importance of establishing how terms are defined, if they're going to be considered "legitimate" to all parties of a discussion. Books on the nature of addiction. Stuff like that - general, not specific to e.g. an individual political campaign.
That's why I question Rove's vocabulary. To my mind "reality based community" is a meaningless phrase. What could it mean? In fact, being Rove's phrase, it can only mean what Rove says it means, and he denigrates a purely reactionary core of opponents as being continuous behind the times, trailing his spoor, as he's busy creating the reality they're caught up in analysing and being tiresome about.
I'm paraphrasing...
An image comes to me of unravelling one of those sticky-paper fly catcher strips, of Karl Rove comparing himself to such a strip, comparing "reality" to the gluey covering. Aptly named "turd blossom" by way of endearment by the most evil US President in history.
So that's what it means to Rove, and how I envision it - a meaningless phrase thrown out by a turd blossom.
http://assets.amuniversal.com/85829c20bf6c012d63f600163e41dd5b
What could it mean to a self-styled "conservative" DUer?
In the case of the DUer recursion, that I exchanged with last night, Rove's definition gives the only possible meaning, and it must be accepted - in fact no questions regarding the meaning of political terms being bandied about are granted.
I thought that was interesting, but the exchange was far too time consuming.