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In reply to the discussion: What message would we send if we quickly rejected Bernie and crowned HRC? [View all]eloydude
(376 posts)18. Then you do have the right to change your mind, instead of Super-Gluing your mouth to HRC's
derriere....
Just listen to the debates. If Clinton doesn't offer solutions, and Bernie offers better solutions, better choices, better path of things to get done, then do you want the same old crap we've had for the last 15 years, a stagnant Congress with a corporatist President, OR do you want to try to break the gridlock and get things done the way the people of America has been asking for the last 30-40 years?
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What message would we send if we quickly rejected Bernie and crowned HRC? [View all]
Ken Burch
May 2015
OP
That we believe the supreme court is very important and we'd like a democratic POTUS
beaglelover
May 2015
#2
And we are willing to sell our souls to Goldman-Sachs-O-Gold for the ability
rhett o rick
May 2015
#15
I am saying that H.Clinton favors the big banks and Wall Street. After she
rhett o rick
May 2015
#154
I speak for myself and you do a terrible job at trying to put words into my mouth.
rhett o rick
May 2015
#253
The "proof" is that the media says the presidential election will cost 2 billion
BainsBane
May 2015
#301
democrats, obama, have fought for minimum wage increase. that is not exclusively sanders. obama has
seabeyond
May 2015
#284
Pres Obama didn't fight very hard for a higher min wage. He raise the wages for a very
rhett o rick
May 2015
#309
he could not get 10.10 thru congress. signed executive order for federal workers. how will sanders
seabeyond
May 2015
#311
Huh? How could it be different? He could have failed at $15 and signed an executive order for that
rhett o rick
May 2015
#312
6 yrs later. when obama pushed 10.10, it was 6 years earlier. he was the start. since, states have
seabeyond
May 2015
#321
Had the president's min wage raise by executive order have been $15 per hour, it would have been a
rhett o rick
May 2015
#323
i explained that. agree or disagree it was what it is. hence, disappointment
seabeyond
May 2015
#325
listen to you. obama has been fighting for increase in minimum wage. hillary TOO will fight
seabeyond
May 2015
#304
there you go. i ma not a clinton supporter. i am a sander supporter. now.... doesnt that just flip
seabeyond
May 2015
#307
"You previously have stated that you support both candidates" the beginning of primary race i am
seabeyond
May 2015
#322
you..."are upset", "making an awful lot of fuss" your incorrect perceptions, firstly.
seabeyond
May 2015
#328
ha. what a trip. you fug up hte argument all over the place with something so very simple
seabeyond
May 2015
#333
I think one reason that Sen Sanders is running is because he knows that the
rhett o rick
May 2015
#254
I agree with you. We are currently headed for fascism and voting to support the
rhett o rick
May 2015
#310
Yes, it is certainly one of the dumbest fucking things I've read on the internet.
zappaman
May 2015
#324
FFS, you are in for a very rude awakening if you somehow manage to get Bernie the D nomination for
beaglelover
May 2015
#43
Holy crap-how did that plane stay in the air for seven-and-a-half extra hours without refueling?
Ken Burch
May 2015
#205
Friends and family are apparently the best barometer for a national electorate...
brooklynite
May 2015
#266
FWIW-I would NEVER assume a candidate I support was doing well because of what my friends say...
brooklynite
May 2015
#300
I am supporting Bernie BECAUSE of the SC. Hillary cannot win the GE. She has no crossover
sabrina 1
May 2015
#299
Yes we are. My interpretation was that we need to fight for him to show we support his ideas
cui bono
May 2015
#55
Then you do have the right to change your mind, instead of Super-Gluing your mouth to HRC's
eloydude
May 2015
#18
Your vote is your own but if a HRC supporter accuses you of having your lips glued to ...
DemocratSinceBirth
May 2015
#76
When they don't answer a simple question: "What makes Hillary better than Bernie"
eloydude
May 2015
#93
Clinton supporters have frequently offered reasons to support her over Sanders
brooklynite
May 2015
#268
No doubt, your petulant and peevish actions are thankfully not shared by Sanders.
LanternWaste
May 2015
#235
I see...whereas the Sanders supporters are thoughtfully keeping an open mind...right?
brooklynite
May 2015
#269
The whole thread is a callout built on a false premise or a straw man, ergo:
DemocratSinceBirth
May 2015
#84
Bemusing that you hold others to a higher standard than you hold yourself to.
LanternWaste
May 2015
#236
Of course you want to "wait for the primary". Money wins and the billionaires have unlimited
rhett o rick
May 2015
#23
I didn't say any of those things. I can see how if I did, then you would have something to complain
rhett o rick
May 2015
#257
Exactly and I just put another one in ignore for calling us all chldish. They really know how to
jwirr
May 2015
#156
I love being called young at 60...and I am very idealistic and optimistic!
NRaleighLiberal
May 2015
#149
Because there are a lot of posts that say we have to vote for Hillary because we don't want the GOP
cui bono
May 2015
#45
I'm not sure what the amount of supporters each has has to do with anything, but in any case,
cui bono
May 2015
#85
That's not what it is for me, it's the fact that a lot Hillary supporters post as if she's running
cui bono
May 2015
#97
i being one of the people say it ONLY to those that SAY they will not vote clinton if she wins.
seabeyond
May 2015
#239
Roe will be overturned no matter what. Citizens United will never be overturned.
Ken Burch
May 2015
#27
I referenced HRC because of the implication that she was the ONLY electable Dem.
Ken Burch
May 2015
#95
let me understand. you have so little hope for supreme crt, yet, confident sanders can turn u.s.
seabeyond
May 2015
#240
May I please have a list of every poster who is asking for a coronation.
DemocratSinceBirth
May 2015
#16
I have said, ad nauseum and ad infinitum, I have no desire to tell others how to vote.
DemocratSinceBirth
May 2015
#70
Stop disrespecting posters from the anonymity of an internet connection.
DemocratSinceBirth
May 2015
#32
Fine. I did a few minutes of research. I found nothing. So I'll be a man, and apologize.
eloydude
May 2015
#90
Perhaps in the future you should think before you make an accusations against a fellow DUer.
hrmjustin
May 2015
#100
I was denouncing that guy(who I'm pretty sure is actually a rw troll)for his abusive tactics.
Ken Burch
May 2015
#313
There are a lot of posts where people say we have to vote for Hillary or else the GOP will appoint
cui bono
May 2015
#48
No, that's not what they are saying. They are saying we have to vote for her or else the GOP
cui bono
May 2015
#62
No, it's giving the primary to her before we even have it. Not the same thing at all.
cui bono
May 2015
#73
If you are under the impression that i am upset but your opinion of me then you are sadly
hrmjustin
May 2015
#82
I'm not under any impressions of your emotions. I'm just telling you like it is.
cui bono
May 2015
#88
no. you are not honest. argument is dishonest. i have addressed only the people braggin wont vote
seabeyond
May 2015
#246
Sometimes i wonder if it is just time to take the rest of the primary off from DU.
hrmjustin
May 2015
#91
That is their raison d'etre, to chase everybody who disagrees with them from this site.
DemocratSinceBirth
May 2015
#103
I live in Los Angeles and take public transportation. Most folks are friendly...
DemocratSinceBirth
May 2015
#113
I live in the southern end so we don't many hipsters but yes Brooklyn is trending.
hrmjustin
May 2015
#115
Yep. I find the responses in this thread to be jaw-dropping. That anyone thinks that scurrying
Number23
May 2015
#166
Yes, the fight between Obama supporters and Hillary supporters got so hot that many just left.
jwirr
May 2015
#168
Really? Should I post the link where you purposely edited your post to make it look like I
cui bono
May 2015
#225
It's not "he", and hrmjusting told me 2-3 months ago that he was for Hillary end of story.
cui bono
May 2015
#224
he is ALLOWED to have made his choice of democratic candidate. for real? you are fuckin on his ass
seabeyond
May 2015
#248
well sure. he is allowed. but then, he is closed minded after all. forget that he sees the value in
seabeyond
May 2015
#336
Ah... so I DIDN'T say he wasn't allowed. That's what I thought. Thanks for clearing that up!
cui bono
May 2015
#338
Weird. I must have missed the post where you apologized for your false accusation of me.
cui bono
May 2015
#342
oh bullshit. you insulted him for no reason but he refuses to do what you want him to do. then
seabeyond
May 2015
#343
What is it that I asked him to do? Please quote me. And where did I claim I was a victim?
cui bono
May 2015
#345
you do not have a gotcha. what you have is you insulting a man for his choices.
seabeyond
May 2015
#349
Interesting post but if i am not mistaken i think your reaction was about her laughing about gaddafi
hrmjustin
May 2015
#185
True indeed. Such expressions of joy in the face of war and death do make me ill.
Bonobo
May 2015
#186
"YOU will not be called out for your own little part in actual, real death and misery"
hrmjustin
May 2015
#193
Not everyone is in your time zone. But go to sleep and have sweet, sweet dreams
Bonobo
May 2015
#202
here i am a supporter. i am only still a suport cause i keep taking the insults, dismissals of my
seabeyond
May 2015
#250
What I said was that by 2016, the court probably will have decided everything already.
Ken Burch
May 2015
#319
we have a lot working its way up form state laws passed. better damn well have a supreme crt
seabeyond
May 2015
#326
yes. and i have not argued that either. you are the one to dismiss supreme crt in YOUR OP.
seabeyond
May 2015
#344
again. i ONLY comment on those that brag they will not vote dem if clinton wins. a little honesty
seabeyond
May 2015
#244
It would say that the message would be that democratic voters quickly rejected Senator Sanders,
KMOD
May 2015
#34
Your post discounts the fact that they are very far apart on the political spectrum.
cui bono
May 2015
#51
She is not left. She is center, perhaps slightly left of because of social issues.
cui bono
May 2015
#65
political demographs in a political campaign and race is significant, right? omg, that is discussed.
seabeyond
May 2015
#245
I see those who post as if they are for Bernie does not hear him when he ask to cease the bad
Thinkingabout
May 2015
#60
Stating a candidates past and present positions, policies and associations is not bad mouthing.
cui bono
May 2015
#78
I believe he said criticism is fair game, and Hillary brings plenty to criticize - she is running
whereisjustice
May 2015
#152
Bernie has tried to guide his supporters to cease the criticizing, guess you did not hear him.
Thinkingabout
May 2015
#165
you might want to reflect on personal insults not only in the OP but several posts that has nothing
seabeyond
May 2015
#251
serious! by gosh. dismiss the third branch of our govt with a MEH... fuck you. totally series11!!11!
seabeyond
May 2015
#252
What we would be saying in my opinion is that we are hunky dory with corporations owning POTUS
onecaliberal
May 2015
#109
Hillary will continue to turn our nation over to corporations to manage, those on the right
whereisjustice
May 2015
#114
obama went after wallstreet and bankers and only got so far. will be the same for clinton AND
seabeyond
May 2015
#255
That we're happy with wars, pollution, for profit health insurance, wall street rule,
Doctor_J
May 2015
#146
And Hillary has shown to be willing to change her views on the meaning of marriage on a dime if it
whereisjustice
May 2015
#155
very nimble for her age. she's "evolved" on so many issues it's hard to remember which are
Doctor_J
May 2015
#159
ken, this is such a hyperbolic drama of the very myth i stated in my post above, a minute ago. #255
seabeyond
May 2015
#256
"get on a democratic board and say that the next SCOTUS openings are unimportant"
seabeyond
May 2015
#258
And then you will see the Bernie purists throw him under the proverbial bus,
MoonRiver
May 2015
#260
Because the Republicans want to destroy them, rather than just blandly ignore them.
Ken Burch
May 2015
#199
I'm not claiming to speak as "the Voice of Truth". Don't project that on me.
Ken Burch
May 2015
#213
but you did in your OP as you usually do , and Rahm actually got higher percentage of hispanic vote
JI7
May 2015
#220
You just dismissed entire races of people as unable to make decisions based on their own interests
BainsBane
May 2015
#232
it is not like this has not been discussed and said RESPECTFULLY and repeatedly the last 3 weeks.
seabeyond
May 2015
#261
I do not think you have an alternative unless someone from the Democratic party is running.
akbacchus_BC
May 2015
#190
"populist causes rather than corporatist causes." while progressive doesnt say, fuck the supreme crt
seabeyond
May 2015
#267
of course i know sanders will do well. as i have repeatedly said. that is NOT what my argument is.
seabeyond
May 2015
#274
We don't, but the problem is the populace overwhelmingly supports the two party's in control, though
still_one
May 2015
#211
what are you talking about, she is being challenged, not only by Bernie, but most likely a couple of
still_one
May 2015
#206
DU rec, although I disagree that all the SCOTUS important cases will be decided, ever.
Scuba
May 2015
#228
Is there a strong, collective opinion that everyone except Clinton should drop out?
LanternWaste
May 2015
#234
what a fuckin dismissing insulting post to so many, for so many reasons. and yet... you own the high
seabeyond
May 2015
#238
We'll be saying we want a good liberal president who will do the right thing for the next four
MohRokTah
May 2015
#259
I think HRC supporters are nervous about Bernie, which is good. If they were not nervous
peacebird
May 2015
#276
I am not peace13...? I am peacebird. Even the total post count is wrong. That is not my post.
peacebird
May 2015
#290
thank you so much for pointing out my mistake. i wil delete them. i am sorry. my bad. nt
seabeyond
May 2015
#292
The message is that the Democratic Party cares about winning in the general election
Gothmog
May 2015
#305
It says we are the more inclusive and less delusional wing of the anti constitution, WarBucks Party.
TheKentuckian
May 2015
#347
That, no matter what we say, we really don't give a fuck about economic justice.
LWolf
May 2015
#364
