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LWolf

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122. I am not a supporter of HRC.

Sun May 17, 2015, 10:31 AM

May 2015

I am well to the left of HRC. And yet, I haven't read a single post on social media about her...because I don't use social media for those purposes. I haven't heard a single thing from "the right," because the only time I listen to "the right" is when my custodian at work gets going, and he's easy to deflate.

It's amazing how they've "baited" me.

I'm sure if it weren't for their "baiting," I'd be thrilled with her.

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This message was self-deleted by its author [View all] KMOD May 2015 OP

No faith in your fellow progresses? daleanime May 2015 #1

This message was self-deleted by its author KMOD May 2015 #3

The sentiment is anti policies that Clinton has advocated eridani May 2015 #24

This message was self-deleted by its author KMOD May 2015 #30

There. ^^^^^ Buzz Clik May 2015 #155

It is not so much who says it - the real issue is - is it true. Anyone saying something about either jwirr May 2015 #217

LOL! Good Ole' Borowitz! 2banon May 2015 #220

So rebut them when they do. cui bono May 2015 #252

That we are so easy distracted by each new manufactured scantile.... daleanime May 2015 #119

there's an oxymoron if ever there was.. 2banon May 2015 #219

Progressives are not in favor of censorship as you are. I just now read this post of yours: Bluenorthwest May 2015 #111

If you don't want to understand me, you don't have to..... daleanime May 2015 #120

"...but to disagree with me just because you think I'm wrong..." Iggo May 2015 #143

Poster had disagreed with something else that I had posted.... daleanime May 2015 #158

Ah! Iggo May 2015 #259

Cool, sorry about any confusion. daleanime May 2015 #260

Read the next few sentences. delrem May 2015 #160

None Gman May 2015 #179

Sorry, it's a rough world.... daleanime May 2015 #183

I'm already turned against her. No need to be baited. Cheese Sandwich May 2015 #2

Many are, I realize that. KMOD May 2015 #4

It's because of her political views and her record Cheese Sandwich May 2015 #6

Her record and her political views are very much liberal. KMOD May 2015 #8

I see significant differences Cheese Sandwich May 2015 #10

And your source of this chart is?????? Thinkingabout May 2015 #14

Like which part of it? I can try to hunt down sources if you want. Cheese Sandwich May 2015 #18

Did you make the chart? Thinkingabout May 2015 #20

The fact that Cheese Sandwich refuses to provide a link to the page where he found the chart is MADem May 2015 #196

Post # 17 debunks his chart and perhaps why the link is not provided. Thinkingabout May 2015 #199

It's pure crap, I suspect it comes from sleazy and stupid oppo researchers. MADem May 2015 #214

Then he admits he likes the way the chart looks, there isvthe answer. Thinkingabout May 2015 #221

So does the chart discount her being SOS from 09-13... Historic NY May 2015 #99

Thanks for the excellent point. Will the inaccuracy be ignored, accepted or defended? n/t freshwest May 2015 #147

Chart is BS. She has called for $15/hr minimum wage and... JaneyVee May 2015 #112

It's ineffective to thinking people because it is not accurate. On trade, for example, Clinton has Bluenorthwest May 2015 #114

Uh she's not against TPP though. Pretty sure she also supported PNTR with China. Cheese Sandwich May 2015 #118

You need to provide a source for your chart, there--it looks like a rightwing ad from NEWSMAX. nt MADem May 2015 #191

It's just an unsourced graphic from the internet. If you disagree with it ok. Cheese Sandwich May 2015 #192

There is no such thing as "an unsourced graphic from the internet." Where did YOU FIND IT? MADem May 2015 #193

pinterest? Cheese Sandwich May 2015 #197

"Pinterest" .... question mark? Really? MADem May 2015 #198

I just like how it compares Clinton Sanders and Bush on the issues. Cheese Sandwich May 2015 #200

It doesn't compare anything--it's an invention by someone who isn't a Sanders supporter. MADem May 2015 #205

Chipotle was the one thing in it that I took as a joke. Cheese Sandwich May 2015 #206

And you didn't think to take the rest of it as a "joke?" MADem May 2015 #210

I went through the whole thing. It all seems true to me. Do you see some inaccuracy in it? Cheese Sandwich May 2015 #213

Oh, really? Well, then, why don't you "cruz' past post seventeen, and see how wrong MADem May 2015 #216

I responded to that yesterday Cheese Sandwich May 2015 #222

Are you arguing that any part of the chart is wrong, or are you attempting to make the source merrily May 2015 #77

I did not supply the chart, I would like to know the source to see if it is a valid source. Thinkingabout May 2015 #108

Obviously someone with a poor command of the English language!!! MADem May 2015 #203

That's an interesting and cherry picked chart, that leaves off many other important issues KMOD May 2015 #17

Yeah but that "Universal" health plan is not what I want Cheese Sandwich May 2015 #23

I'll start with health care. KMOD May 2015 #26

I like Obamacare Cheese Sandwich May 2015 #38

A lot of what Senator Sanders wants, KMOD May 2015 #40

"Not possible" Cheese Sandwich May 2015 #47

If you want health care for all, and I do too, KMOD May 2015 #50

ok Cheese Sandwich May 2015 #56

G'Night Cheese KMOD May 2015 #59

The difference...Canada doesn't have a defense budget that takes up half their budget. libdem4life May 2015 #151

We could afford it right now if we eliminated the parasitic insurance companies. Jackpine Radical May 2015 #204

Yep, pretty much all they do is push papers and collect checks. libdem4life May 2015 #207

Ya wanna bet? Half the Dems are on lease to the ins. companies. Jackpine Radical May 2015 #211

Well, you're right. I still get Democrat mixed up with Repub-Lite and I'm too libdem4life May 2015 #227

The "chart" doesn't even prove that Jeb and Bernie ate at Chipotle!!! MADem May 2015 #208

Please provide the link to where you got that chart. nt SunSeeker May 2015 #49

She's the one that kicked off the concept of universal health care back in the early 90s, and MADem May 2015 #33

I know, right. KMOD May 2015 #35

Oh the irony... LOL L0oniX May 2015 #166

That is truly outlandish historical revisionism. Jim Lane May 2015 #98

thanks for this. cali May 2015 #107

Misinformation??? Gman May 2015 #180

+1. Truman did not ask for a task force, nor ask anyone to chair any national effort. MADem May 2015 #189

If they refuse to acknowledge a known fact Gman May 2015 #224

Interesting, and sad. MADem May 2015 #226

The thing about DU is it is not the real world Gman May 2015 #229

Your "irrefutable" history is dead wrong. Jim Lane May 2015 #243

Seriously, who here is NOT a single payer advocate Gman May 2015 #249

I don't know about HERE. Among the candidates, though, it's a different story. Jim Lane May 2015 #251

Who presented this to Congress before Hillary. Thinkingabout May 2015 #113

What Truman presented to Congress in 1945 was much closer to single payer than was Hillarycare. (nt) Jim Lane May 2015 #146

Nixon agreed to legislation that allowed Gman May 2015 #181

EVERYONE ^^^THIS^^^ L0oniX May 2015 #165

EVERYONE---READ THE WHOLE SUBTHREAD!!!! MADem May 2015 #187

Why are you putting words in my mouth? Did I ever, once, say that MADem May 2015 #186

No, I'm not. Here's your VERBATIM quotation. Jim Lane May 2015 #242

Yes you are. And you're spoiling like hell for a pissy and childish fight. MADem May 2015 #244

You still haven't explained what you meant by "kicked off the concept" Jim Lane May 2015 #246

Yes, I have--read what I wrote, perhaps you'll eventually take my point. MADem May 2015 #247

I've read it, I'll quote it, I'll respond to it Jim Lane May 2015 #250

King of the wooden spoon! MADem May 2015 #253

Lies are truth huh? L0oniX May 2015 #164

Wow--make it about ME, why don't you? Personal insult is your go-to? MADem May 2015 #184

Lol! Katashi_itto May 2015 #106

OFFS LMFAO L0oniX May 2015 #167

Which is probably why she donated to his Senate Campaign--something people hating on her ignore. MADem May 2015 #190

O.M.G. 2banon May 2015 #223

No it isn't BainsBane May 2015 #27

awesome KMOD May 2015 #32

Isn't she though. Quite dangerous when she posts. *sound of airheads popping* freshwest May 2015 #80

I wish I had written that. NBachers May 2015 #58

I see this image when she talks like that: freshwest May 2015 #82

All the while forgetting that winning seats justiceischeap May 2015 #67

Prom king BainsBane May 2015 #136

Very well said, ANY claim about Hillary lacking on healthcare is totally absurd, she advocated for Thinkingabout May 2015 #115

Preach it, Sister! okasha May 2015 #195

I'm not saying they should feel obligated to support Clinton in the primary BainsBane May 2015 #209

I liken it all into an angry mob scenerio, I often wonder how people are shocked by AuntPatsy May 2015 #11

Mob mentality has always existed. KMOD May 2015 #21

Which is why I am voting for Bernie peacebird May 2015 #34

I kind of get the point you're making here, but KMOD May 2015 #37

if there's one thing I don't do cali May 2015 #65

Yes. I'm aware of your views on her. KMOD May 2015 #66

You take it quite further than what you say here. You actively R B Garr May 2015 #140

This is what I particularly don't like about Hillary partisans daredtowork May 2015 #73

OK, try to separate it for a second, if you can KMOD May 2015 #75

Hillary has started to tilt toward Sanders, but daredtowork May 2015 #81

because I love you KMOD May 2015 #84

Perhaps you have to be on welfare to understand this daredtowork May 2015 #87

I gotta get some sleep. KMOD May 2015 #88

I would never start comparing "poor cred" with anyone else daredtowork May 2015 #93

We can argue until the sun comes up KMOD May 2015 #95

I haven't tried to sway you to Sanders daredtowork May 2015 #97

One can say the same thing about some Sanders supporters. hrmjustin May 2015 #131

I have no doubt at all that this group and others are trolling sites to turn people hrmjustin May 2015 #5

They've been doing it for years. KMOD May 2015 #9

They are petrified of her and I have no doubt they have their trolls out and about. hrmjustin May 2015 #13

Yep and they did it when it was Obama treestar May 2015 #127

Agreed. i think this op hit a nerve. hrmjustin May 2015 #132

Yep Bobbie Jo May 2015 #150

EEEKS! Well then, that settles it. 99th_Monkey May 2015 #7

No. KMOD May 2015 #12

On this we agree. 99th_Monkey May 2015 #15

Indeed. KMOD May 2015 #19

Agreed, too many talking points are also heard from RW sources. Thinkingabout May 2015 #16

Seeing as you are studiously avoiding Jim Lane's post in this thread cali May 2015 #109

Point me to them. KMOD May 2015 #172

We don't need the right for this. Hillary does a good job on her own. Exilednight May 2015 #22

The ratfucking will never end. joshcryer May 2015 #25

The Bernie Sanders gun nut stuff was crazy. KMOD May 2015 #28

It's all about arguing for the sake of it now. joshcryer May 2015 #31

It certainly is. I don't think it's all that hard to spot the trolls, though. MADem May 2015 #245

Oh the irony of the NY Times pointing that out after running with that "Clinton Cash" bullshit. nt SunSeeker May 2015 #29

They get paid no matter what they push. Like Eddie Murphy vs. Duke brothers in 'Trading Places': freshwest May 2015 #86

LOL So true. SunSeeker May 2015 #103

But I'm weak, and the bait looks so yummy! DJ13 May 2015 #36

I think a tell-tale sign is when people attack another candidate rather than build up their own Cali_Democrat May 2015 #39

I see it too. It's frustrating. KMOD May 2015 #42

This! Agschmid May 2015 #124

Predictible nonsense AgingAmerican May 2015 #41

Ok. KMOD May 2015 #43

Well I could post many threads AgingAmerican May 2015 #45

OK, you linked to a post KMOD May 2015 #48

Its a tactic AgingAmerican May 2015 #63

I'm sincerely confused here. KMOD May 2015 #64

"The Right baits the Left to turn against Hillary Clinton" Cali_Democrat May 2015 #51

Don't need "baiting", I was never with her whatchamacallit May 2015 #44

thanks KMOD May 2015 #52

I'm kicking and recommending this because I see it all too frequently here. lovemydog May 2015 #46

Thank you, my friend. KMOD May 2015 #54

+10000000000000000 treestar May 2015 #129

The left intices wobbly HRC supporters aspirant May 2015 #53

I'm not wobbly. KMOD May 2015 #55

Others are wobbly aspirant May 2015 #57

I'm sure he does. KMOD May 2015 #60

We must be very careful.... the_sly_pig May 2015 #61

I'm not being played by the Right daredtowork May 2015 #62

Fair enough. KMOD May 2015 #69

The fact you believe that is just a sign of the unequal resources to me. daredtowork May 2015 #71

We disagree. It happens. KMOD May 2015 #72

I suppose daredtowork May 2015 #74

I'm still KMOD. KMOD May 2015 #76

Okay, I believe you. Just curious as I said. nt :) daredtowork May 2015 #83

It's cool. KMOD May 2015 #85

DU does not reflect the Democratic Party. Agschmid May 2015 #125

True daredtowork May 2015 #255

Is she REALLY highly respected by the party? Here's some food for Exilednight May 2015 #105

What would the Democratic Party have to do with unequal resources frazzled May 2015 #194

I guess you didn't hear about the debate manipulation on Hillary's behalf. nt daredtowork May 2015 #256

Why should the right stop doing this now? It's been working for 40+ years: freshwest May 2015 #68

excellent. KMOD May 2015 #70

It is not about the left or the right, Hilary Clinton akbacchus_BC May 2015 #78

Sanders, O'Malley, Webb, Chaffee KMOD May 2015 #79

Or, she's doing well in the polls because she's been running since at least merrily May 2015 #89

She is respected and admired by the party. KMOD May 2015 #90

I just cannot believe you all will vote for a person akbacchus_BC May 2015 #91

Did you mean to address this to me? (I'm voting for the guy in my inobtrusive sig line.) merrily May 2015 #92

Hillary is not the only person I can vote for. KMOD May 2015 #94

Not to mention her hawkish behavior over Libya and Syria Sobax May 2015 #101

That's some serious master baiting! nt Bonobo May 2015 #96

Kicking and recommending PDittie May 2015 #100

That's a pretty sophisticated but not surprising trick sufrommich May 2015 #102

More evidence that HRC's supporters can't run on her record. woo me with science May 2015 #104

+1000 Katashi_itto May 2015 #110

NAILED IT ! L0oniX May 2015 #162

. hrmjustin May 2015 #201

Should be the standard response to that one. Number23 May 2015 #237

i expect it at this point. hrmjustin May 2015 #238

No one turned me against her. She's just not the person we need at this time. Autumn May 2015 #116

If you are a Hillary supporter, why can't you use her record to win her more favor? davidn3600 May 2015 #117

10,000 recs to that one... MattSh May 2015 #121

Because the Hillary haters on the left refuse to acknowledge the positive aspects of her record. geek tragedy May 2015 #134

So if you're not a Hillary Supporter hootinholler May 2015 #141

I prefer Bernie. But I recognize Clinton is a lot more Bernie geek tragedy May 2015 #145

No no no. It's if you don't support Hillary then you must be a repuke. L0oniX May 2015 #215

Thread win. n/t L0oniX May 2015 #168

I promoted her record many times KMOD May 2015 #173

Why do you think we need to convince those of you trashing her? We don't. stevenleser May 2015 #257

I am not a supporter of HRC. LWolf May 2015 #122

The right hates Hillary. The fringe left hates Hillary... SidDithers May 2015 #123

After a while, the results are the same. A pox on all that stuff. n/t freshwest May 2015 #148

And some on the right are infiltrating the fringe left to get 'em all fired up. MADem May 2015 #218

Kind of interesting we don't do that treestar May 2015 #126

I've done it occasionally with my lurker account on Free Republic. (n/t) Jim Lane May 2015 #152

As Presidnt Obama would say, the professional right and the Hillary-hating left are in geek tragedy May 2015 #128

Your smear of DUers is totally wrong. Jim Lane May 2015 #154

There is policy criticism and then there is portraying geek tragedy May 2015 #159

This "enemy" meme is your coinage, not the progressives'. Jim Lane May 2015 #169

. geek tragedy May 2015 #254

Been going on since the day Obama was elected. JoePhilly May 2015 #130

I care fuckall about what "the right" says. 99Forever May 2015 #133

Thanks again for posting this. hrmjustin May 2015 #135

Fuck freakrepublic, redstate, etc workinclasszero May 2015 #137

Unleash the Ratfucker accusations! hootinholler May 2015 #138

The conservatives are afraid of HRC and want her not to be the nominee Gothmog May 2015 #139

Which is pretty telling, generally speaking. freshwest May 2015 #149

Is this the Hillary psyops meme of the week? marmar May 2015 #142

I'm gonna go with Yes. Iggo May 2015 #144

What I find most telling about it is the predictable contempt for the intelligence of voters. woo me with science May 2015 #156

Here's a story on America Rising, the rightwing PAC behind the tweet Buzz Clik May 2015 #153

If America Rising is evil and tweets that Clinton has connections to Wall Street... Jim Lane May 2015 #157

Connections to Wall Street is not necessarily evil epitomized. Buzz Clik May 2015 #171

True, but it's a legitimate subject for discussion. Jim Lane May 2015 #174

Meh. It's a tradition for Dems to destroy their candidates during the primaries. Buzz Clik May 2015 #176

It's a tradition for both major parties to have heated internal debates. Jim Lane May 2015 #178

Good point, and at the 1976 convention, it was near war between the Reagan and Ford delegations. Buzz Clik May 2015 #182

Some of the responses are interesting. hrmjustin May 2015 #161

Yes. KMOD May 2015 #175

When someone says third way I get pissed because I assume they mean Hillary and because hrmjustin May 2015 #177

I don't use twitter so my dislike for Clinton is my own. cherokeeprogressive May 2015 #163

Just like in 2008, Hillary haters on the left Gman May 2015 #170

Hillary is their worst nightmare. MoonRiver May 2015 #185

Hillary is her own nightmare. Her policies concerning Exilednight May 2015 #225

She is an incredibly popular Democrat, who is almost guaranteed to win the primary MoonRiver May 2015 #231

Based on what? She hasn't debated anyone yet and she hasn't been challenged Exilednight May 2015 #232

Have you looked at her poll numbers? MoonRiver May 2015 #233

Yes, I've see. Her poll numbers. Not that impressive at this early Exilednight May 2015 #234

Recent poll MoonRiver May 2015 #235

That's a national poll, and shes only at 63% with her Exilednight May 2015 #236

Bernie is at 6% to Hillary's 63%. Yeah, sad for Bernie. MoonRiver May 2015 #239

Again, comes down to name recognition at this point, get back to me a week before Exilednight May 2015 #240

Hillary isn't their worst nightmare... davidn3600 May 2015 #228

Then why are they constantly targeting Hillary and leaving Bernie completely alone? MoonRiver May 2015 #230

Because they know she's going to win the nomination davidn3600 May 2015 #241

Yes, she is. They would marginalize Bernie and destroy his Presidency in a few weeks... stevenleser May 2015 #258

Just saw this... CBHagman May 2015 #188

Oh, so THAT'S why all the lefties are now blathering about Benghazi instead of TPP eridani May 2015 #202

Might as well ...since us lefties are now with the repukes. L0oniX May 2015 #212

PRIMARIES ARE A REPUBLICAN PLOT! Warren DeMontague May 2015 #248