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189. An ex of mine -- also a classical violinist -- knows Jennifer Kim . . .

Thu May 14, 2015, 01:03 AM

May 2015

. . . and here is what he had to say on Facebook:

Jennifer used to be a member of the American Symphony Orchestra, until she moved down to DC. She is such a sweet, gentle person - and a wonderful violinist and colleague. The only things callous on her are the fingertips of her left hand! Our violins are not only our voice, they are irreplaceable works of art as well. If my 315 year baby was on that train, I'm sure I would have reacted similarly. Jennifer certainly doesn't need social media shaming for her reaction.

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musician sparks backlash for requesting her violin from crashed Amtrak train [View all] Liberal_in_LA May 2015 OP

Yep - poor taste indeed DrDan May 2015 #1

What an idiot. For a musician, she is TONE DEAF. nt MADem May 2015 #2

Internet shaming of the week alcibiades_mystery May 2015 #3

Agreed. Wish it weren't that way. morningfog May 2015 #27

+Infinity. arcane1 May 2015 #29

And I understand her anger and frustration. yardwork May 2015 #103

Not surprising - more garbage from the Daily Mail. Oneironaut May 2015 #197

I am not defending her at all but... Renew Deal May 2015 #4

I can understand that...My first girl friend was a gopiscrap May 2015 #30

$18K is on the VERY low end for a professional grade instrument . . . markpkessinger May 2015 #72

altogether is was 18K for the violin 7k for bow gopiscrap May 2015 #75

It would have been on the low end even then . . . markpkessinger May 2015 #77

holy cow, how can they be that much? treestar May 2015 #118

When one performs at a professional level in Classical music . . . markpkessinger May 2015 #156

Amazing they play better that old treestar May 2015 #236

Even more interesting is the fact that they MUST continue be played at least occasionally. . . markpkessinger May 2015 #237

someone I know brought a bass bow for her kid for 5K and he was a teen Liberal_in_LA May 2015 #174

It's not than unusual for a professional to have more than one instrument. winter is coming May 2015 #214

I thought the same thing, but the tone and wording of that shows her to be a self absorbed asshole. Stinky The Clown May 2015 #52

"Thanks a lot for derailing my train" Mariana May 2015 #198

This message was self-deleted by its author CreekDog May 2015 #208

well then that settles it CreekDog May 2015 #209

As if that changes the tone of what she wrote. Stinky The Clown May 2015 #227

It isn't just that it's expensive . . . markpkessinger May 2015 #60

Much more than that for the violin catrose May 2015 #93

Some violins are family heirlooms, bvar22 May 2015 #228

Fake outrage LittleBlue May 2015 #5

Her self-importance is galling... TeeYiYi May 2015 #10

she didn't say get my violin then help those in need CreekDog May 2015 #51

No, but the tweet is snarky and comes across as immature and self-centered. Gormy Cuss May 2015 #101

I disagree that it is the topic of her complaint CreekDog May 2015 #187

I see it less as self-importance and more as a reaction predicated on shock LanternWaste May 2015 #54

Good point. n/t Gormy Cuss May 2015 #102

Probably so catrose May 2015 #110

Well, you see Lantern Waste... Oilwellian May 2015 #203

Yes, seven people died . . . markpkessinger May 2015 #62

I think that's the problem. No doubt she needs the violin The Velveteen Ocelot May 2015 #85

Even if it is insured Goblinmonger May 2015 #157

That's quite true - you don't go to Wal-Mart for a violin. The Velveteen Ocelot May 2015 #160

Exactly. nt RiffRandell May 2015 #199

I'm with you on this one. SMC22307 May 2015 #193

Wow, i assume you would of done the same thing. Some people have.. Logical May 2015 #17

That would have stung if you hadn't said LittleBlue May 2015 #21

I see that all the time here. cwydro May 2015 #24

LOL....feel important now? Well..... Logical May 2015 #37

Best way to rationalize one's mistake is by pretending the reaction is worse than the mistake itself LanternWaste May 2015 #41

LOL, hey it is repeating subject line guy. nt Logical May 2015 #117

Since you really made no point other than to say I had a personality flaw LittleBlue May 2015 #79

PROTIP: That is not "would of." NuclearDem May 2015 #45

Publicly demanding that people retrieve a personal possession Kelvin Mace May 2015 #36

Fuck her source of income jberryhill May 2015 #46

Exactly. Spot on, jberry LittleBlue May 2015 #73

I understand about getting a violin back. They are expensive, but saying that, her timing sucks. Xyzse May 2015 #6

Very poor taste, but her violin is her livelihood. And look at the timestamp... haele May 2015 #7

we should stop shaming people. We don't live in their lives. She may struggle as an CTyankee May 2015 #31

Well, it would REALLY help if people Kelvin Mace May 2015 #39

yeah, I know...sad but I think if this were her livelihood she would naturally be concerned. CTyankee May 2015 #100

Nothing wrong with being concerned Kelvin Mace May 2015 #175

Yeah, the nerve of a person not thinking soundly 15 minutes after a train derailment CreekDog May 2015 #222

Again, she had all sorts of ways to ask about her violin Kelvin Mace May 2015 #223

If you are so insistent on being helpful, why weren't you there at the wreckage CreekDog May 2015 #225

Same reason I am not advising GOP candidates not to say damned foolish things Kelvin Mace May 2015 #226

You know who else here has lost their living? Guess and I will let you know if you are right! nt Logical May 2015 #44

Not you jberryhill May 2015 #53

Yeah, well maybe she should have insured it. RiffRandell May 2015 #49

maybe she did and she just wanted her original violin back. It might have a "feel" CTyankee May 2015 #106

Because people fucking died. RiffRandell May 2015 #182

That's a pretty violent suggestion. CTyankee May 2015 #200

You Do Realize She Was On That Train ProfessorGAC May 2015 #224

Why is it in poor taste if it is her livelihood? markpkessinger May 2015 #64

Of course! Do we want artists dying for their art? Really? CTyankee May 2015 #107

What are you talking about? markpkessinger May 2015 #148

sorry for my lame attempt at sarcasm...dying for one's art is a melodramatic CTyankee May 2015 #194

Her bio... KansDem May 2015 #142

The poor taste wasn't about asking to go back for her violin, IMO. haele May 2015 #186

Not according to most of the criticism she has received here . . . markpkessinger May 2015 #190

I heard that she sent that tweet only 15 minutes after the crash. Sheldon Cooper May 2015 #8

She should have contacted them privately by phone or email, not Twitter. octoberlib May 2015 #9

This. riqster May 2015 #57

I'm sure she's not a horrible person. But..... Tommy_Carcetti May 2015 #11

Tweeting this? How would that help her get Ilsa May 2015 #12

She tagged AMTRAK with it nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #71

When is the appropriate time to want her violin back? Goblinmonger May 2015 #13

How about her not being fucking stupid and contacting someone who.... Logical May 2015 #18

how about she tagged 2 Amtrak Twitter accounts? Goblinmonger May 2015 #22

Are you as concerned about the injured people who can't work now? I doubt it. nt Logical May 2015 #42

So, why are you working? jberryhill May 2015 #63

No, she should not whine about losing a tool when people died and are injured. Get it yet? nt Logical May 2015 #120

Yeah, so you should come to DU and whine about her whining on Twitter Trajan May 2015 #181

Holy Strawman, Batman Goblinmonger May 2015 #159

The next time you just walk out of a train crash WestSideStory May 2015 #183

If the violen was so precious to her and expensive, maybe she should have used a private carrier. Quackers May 2015 #33

She's a professional musician, FFS markpkessinger May 2015 #70

People died FFS! Quackers May 2015 #119

And do you think she knew that 15 minutes after she had crawled out of the wreckage? n/t markpkessinger May 2015 #133

Most people wouldn't be ignorant enough to tweet that 15 minutes after the train they're on crashes. Quackers May 2015 #146

I'm not willing to call anything anyone does in the immediate aftermath of an accident "fucked up" . markpkessinger May 2015 #150

Yes, I have been through something similar. Quackers May 2015 #161

I never said a violin was worth more than a human life, and neither did she n/t markpkessinger May 2015 #134

Professional musicians carry their instruments with them eom catrose May 2015 #113

Just because she is a profession musician doesn't mean she's fucking Madonna. Goblinmonger May 2015 #163

The way that tweet read was that it was ALL ABOUT HER. MoonRiver May 2015 #212

That's all on you. Goblinmonger May 2015 #213

Her tweet is what it is. MoonRiver May 2015 #217

oh wow, well that's a crime that your condemnation is certainly needed to prevent CreekDog May 2015 #221

It doesn't matter because outragggge!!! Oneironaut May 2015 #196

How does her asking "can I get my violin back" be turned turn into justhanginon May 2015 #14

It's the Daily Mail LittleBlue May 2015 #19

The Pillory is back, and it's gone digital. arcane1 May 2015 #35

This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words May 2015 #15

I am glad we have a way for fucking morons to expose their stupidity! nt Logical May 2015 #20

This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words May 2015 #23

I will realize that people are rude and stupid, and now people will know this about her. nt Logical May 2015 #38

This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words May 2015 #48

And do you feel better now? philosslayer May 2015 #43

Why yes, we do. pintobean May 2015 #55

Anytime time will do...they're fucking nuts. (nt) Inkfreak May 2015 #151

In the future, everyone will be internet shamed for 15 hours alcibiades_mystery May 2015 #178

She could have worded that a hell of a lot better. Aerows May 2015 #16

Really? philosslayer May 2015 #68

I'm the one worked up? Aerows May 2015 #78

Maybe because i HATE internet bullying philosslayer May 2015 #82

Uh, okay Aerows May 2015 #84

Here's the deal... philosslayer May 2015 #86

This message was self-deleted by its author Long Drive May 2015 #143

Seriously. The people worked up over the outrage seem to be the ones kcr May 2015 #153

There IS another Brigade jen63 May 2015 #152

I'm sorry for your loss. I'm retired USN myself. haele May 2015 #210

Thank you for your concern. jen63 May 2015 #211

I can't read anything into this... not at all. hunter May 2015 #25

Yup, I can't get mad about this at all. I hope she gets it back and it is ok. uppityperson May 2015 #50

Some are supporting her tweet. I hope she has insurance on the violin Liberal_in_LA May 2015 #176

I'm with you folks. Here's hoping she gets her violin back. Paladin May 2015 #204

yes in fact one of the most vocal in the thread CreekDog May 2015 #220

She probably didn't mean to come off as a narcissistic ass... NaturalHigh May 2015 #26

I don't think so at all. If she is a musical artist whose livelihood depends on her violin CTyankee May 2015 #34

I guarantee she can find another violin to practice. I bet the people in the hospital..... Logical May 2015 #47

You think professional grade instruments are just out there for anyone who wants to borrow one? markpkessinger May 2015 #80

That comment is so stupid it hurts. mindem May 2015 #87

Oh please, you act like she asked for her violin to be retrieved while people die CreekDog May 2015 #88

Oh, well, you GUARANTEE it. So that makes it a real thing. Goblinmonger May 2015 #165

It's her livelihood. If you needed something to coninue your employement, you'd want it back too Ex Lurker May 2015 #28

See no. 142 KansDem May 2015 #145

Lemme see nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #32

Seems like a valid request to me. Unvanguard May 2015 #40

She's a violinist for the Washington National Opera jberryhill May 2015 #56

Criticize her all you want . . . markpkessinger May 2015 #58

After reading this entire thread, I agree with you. hifiguy May 2015 #67

Umm... She was just involved in a horrific 100 mph train wreck. pintobean May 2015 #59

Her message seems polite, she even says "thanks". CreekDog May 2015 #61

Quite so . . . markpkessinger May 2015 #65

(sigh!) Yet another reason why I don't do Twitter. . . DinahMoeHum May 2015 #66

Yeah, whatever. Iggo May 2015 #69

First person to respond was a RWer Kalidurga May 2015 #74

people need to think before they tweet Skittles May 2015 #91

Agreed, but lots of folks might not think things through 15 minutes after being in an accident n/t markpkessinger May 2015 #97

and if they don't think, what should the penalty for that be? CreekDog May 2015 #219

EXACTLY why I don't tweet Skittles May 2015 #229

EXACTLY why I shouldn't tweet CreekDog May 2015 #231

*HEH* Skittles May 2015 #235

How can people not make public asses put of themselves ? olddots May 2015 #76

she's deprived of her emotional outlet and people complain about her not being properly emotional? unblock May 2015 #81

Maybe better to wait for the bodies to be buried (or at least pulled from the wreckage) Nye Bevan May 2015 #83

Everyone here has a right to complain about this girl's tweet CreekDog May 2015 #89

If a part of you was still on that train after you got off ,you would want it back just as soon as Wash. state Desk Jet May 2015 #90

sure she needs her violin Skittles May 2015 #112

Where did she do that? Goblinmonger May 2015 #167

uh huh Skittles May 2015 #192

This tweet was sent 15 minutes after a traumatic accident . . . markpkessinger May 2015 #92

And she was probably going somewhere to catrose May 2015 #94

Exactly! n/t markpkessinger May 2015 #95

Why is this so damned hard for people here to understand? hifiguy May 2015 #96

And probably desperately wanted to go find her violin on the train and they wouldn't let her get it Beaverhausen May 2015 #108

Right catrose May 2015 #114

Truly! catrose May 2015 #115

+1 MadrasT May 2015 #130

So the rescuers are supposed to stop looking for and helping victims, MoonRiver May 2015 #98

No, that's not what she said CreekDog May 2015 #218

She's one of the victims FFS RedCappedBandit May 2015 #99

You are correct. darkangel218 May 2015 #105

Wonder if that was a friend of mine catrose May 2015 #169

Most patients, if awake and alerted , worry about various things after an accident darkangel218 May 2015 #170

Makes sense, somehow eom catrose May 2015 #172

here is her bio. She uses that instrument to make a living Beaverhausen May 2015 #104

Rec to bring awerness that trauma victims are not just physically traumatized darkangel218 May 2015 #109

^THIS^ eom catrose May 2015 #116

Oh FFS. nt Logical May 2015 #122

Ffs what? care to explain why you disagree? darkangel218 May 2015 #123

I have no problem with the request Trajan May 2015 #111

via twitter? lol, ok. nt Logical May 2015 #121

No where did I mention Twitter Trajan May 2015 #125

Besides "lol" and "ffs", why do you disagree with this victim request? darkangel218 May 2015 #126

Because people were dead and 100s will miss their job and pay tomorrow and this idiot.... Logical May 2015 #128

She was a victim too. People dont think clearly when shit hits the fan. darkangel218 May 2015 #131

Then where is her apology? Her website says nothing! And she deleted her twitter account. nt Logical May 2015 #136

She deleted the twit AND the account. darkangel218 May 2015 #138

Normal people do apologize. It is telling she has not. We disagree on this. nt Logical May 2015 #155

You call a stranger "not normal" because they long for a precious item while in shock?? darkangel218 May 2015 #158

I feel for the injured people and the ones that died. I would never whine about my missing stuff.... Logical May 2015 #162

She didnt stop search ane rescue. She didnt hurt or harm anyone. darkangel218 May 2015 #166

OK, that is really silly. Almost think you are messing with me. nt Logical May 2015 #168

No one is "messing" with you. darkangel218 May 2015 #171

you said worse than she did actually, and you never apologized CreekDog May 2015 #216

Delete a twitter account full of people telling you you're a peice of shit? haele May 2015 #234

They are still looking for bodies/survivors Omaha Steve May 2015 #124

She probably didn't know that at the time Beaverhausen May 2015 #129

I'm taking bets malaise May 2015 #127

This MoonRiver May 2015 #137

I should have added or only child malaise May 2015 #141

Yes, that too! MoonRiver May 2015 #144

Glad to know you can instantly judge someone who just had a near death experience philosslayer May 2015 #149

Wow malaise.. seriously?? darkangel218 May 2015 #154

Thanks a lot for derailing my train malaise May 2015 #177

This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words May 2015 #188

This message was self-deleted by its author steve2470 May 2015 #132

You are wrong. She is one of the victims. darkangel218 May 2015 #135

This message was self-deleted by its author steve2470 May 2015 #139

No it wasnt off. darkangel218 May 2015 #140

I wish people would stop reacting to tweets like they signified anything important. Inkfreak May 2015 #147

I give people the benefit of a doubt. Sometimes internet words don't transmit true feelings. BlueJazz May 2015 #164

I hear ya. Liberal_in_LA May 2015 #173

Chill out Internet. She screwed up, as we all have. Let's not ruin her life for it. nt tridim May 2015 #179

She didnt "screw up". darkangel218 May 2015 #180

+1. Paladin May 2015 #205

Who the fuck does this right wing piece of shit think he is? WestSideStory May 2015 #184

So this was today's Internet 2-minute hate? n/t PoliticAverse May 2015 #185

An ex of mine -- also a classical violinist -- knows Jennifer Kim . . . markpkessinger May 2015 #189

Are people just looking to be pissed off? U4ikLefty May 2015 #191

Who cares? Is this another Internet outrage thing? Oneironaut May 2015 #195

Poor kid rjsquirrel May 2015 #201

I'm sure most folks who lost an $18K+ essential piece of equipment for them to earn a living would stevenleser May 2015 #202

Looking at Ms. Kim's impressive CV, up-thread, I'm betting it's a lot more than $18K. (nt) Paladin May 2015 #206

Actual pricing for instruments like this are hard to find online SwankyXomb May 2015 #232

You can drop $30K to $35K on a modern-made violin without any effort. (nt) Paladin May 2015 #233

Lots of people trying to script a victim's reaction right after a horrific experiance. haele May 2015 #207

+1 CreekDog May 2015 #215

Wow, there's a whole lot of self-righteous schoolmarms in this thread. backscatter712 May 2015 #230

This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words May 2015 #238