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akbacchus_BC

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49. Why you say that?

Reply to Behind the Aegis (Reply #46)

Sat May 9, 2015, 03:27 AM

May 2015

I always though that hate speech is a crime!

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I'm starting to think hate speech IS a crime [View all] Gman May 2015 OP

Good read... Agschmid May 2015 #1

I'm aware of Brsndenburg and Gman May 2015 #2

So to be clear, you think "insulting someone's deity" should be illegal. Warren DeMontague May 2015 #17

Indeed. When in all history did that work out?? Yo_Mama May 2015 #97

Obviously everything in the OP sailed clean over your head Gman May 2015 #103

No, it didn't. These were your words, you wrote em: Warren DeMontague May 2015 #106

Insulting the deity doesn't cause the violence. Warren DeMontague May 2015 #27

Point, set and match. hifiguy May 2015 #112

Free clue: IMMINENT. You don gots it. n/t X_Digger May 2015 #87

That is a complete misinterpretation. Yo_Mama May 2015 #98

All hate speech should be illegal? beam me up scottie May 2015 #3

No Gman May 2015 #4

I did. beam me up scottie May 2015 #5

Re: Free speech does not allow you to "shout fire in a crowded theater" 951-Riverside May 2015 #6

you CAN should fire in a crowed theater Skittles May 2015 #59

Actually, you can falsely shout fire in a theatre. NutmegYankee May 2015 #82

I'm glad someone gets it. Gman May 2015 #104

... GGJohn May 2015 #7

"hate speech should not be illegal, it should be countered with more speech." beam me up scottie May 2015 #12

Exactly. GGJohn May 2015 #13

Depends on who makes the laws beam me up scottie May 2015 #15

The "who" is fundamental as to "what" constitutes "hate speech." Behind the Aegis May 2015 #20

If Geller's anti-muslim tirades were to become illegal... beam me up scottie May 2015 #25

Indiana and Arkansas! Behind the Aegis May 2015 #32

Why didn't this thread about hate speech/inciting violence get rec'd? beam me up scottie May 2015 #35

Ha! That was in my reserve to read! Behind the Aegis May 2015 #36

Well maybe y'all need to shoot at some people to get attention. beam me up scottie May 2015 #38

We gays do have the Pink Pistols and more than few Jews pack heat. Behind the Aegis May 2015 #39

Oh you said it. beam me up scottie May 2015 #42

Rick Warren called us pedophiles days before he was the Inaugural Minister and DU supported that. Bluenorthwest May 2015 #72

Didn't Eric Rudolph bomb a lesbian bar for Jesus, or something? Warren DeMontague May 2015 #28

I missed that event by a week and a half! Behind the Aegis May 2015 #33

"I fucking hate it when people want to criminalize speech because they don't like what's being said" Warren DeMontague May 2015 #18

I hate it too. Behind the Aegis May 2015 #19

People keep comparing Pam Geller to Fred Phelps. Okay, so then handle her the way Fred Phelps was Warren DeMontague May 2015 #23

Yup...here's how we responded in a number of cases... Behind the Aegis May 2015 #31

Where's the one you posted the other day... beam me up scottie May 2015 #37

This one? Behind the Aegis May 2015 #41

YES!!! LMAO! beam me up scottie May 2015 #44

Yeah, that's a classic. Warren DeMontague May 2015 #53

Love that! Bobbie Jo May 2015 #88

I am starting to think people who think like you are dangerous. CBGLuthier May 2015 #8

...^ that 840high May 2015 #9

It's people like you who are a greater threat to our GGJohn May 2015 #10

“I shall never fight in the armed forces with a Negro by my side..." cherokeeprogressive May 2015 #11

Mocking religion is NOT hate speech. Yorktown May 2015 #14

'Says the religion hater.. whathehell May 2015 #22

Again, the confusion between religion and people Yorktown May 2015 #29

Not confused in the least whathehell May 2015 #45

And Hitler and Stalin killed in the name of Nazism and Communism, not Atheism. Yorktown May 2015 #47

My only point was that religion is not the ONLY ideology that lends itself to violent extremism whathehell May 2015 #77

Agreed. Religion is ONE of the ideologies that create violence. Yorktown May 2015 #105

And neither religion OR ideology always creates violence -- Greed, anger and hate come in whathehell May 2015 #107

True. But you admitted religion in itself IS a cause of violence Yorktown May 2015 #113

No, that would be like saying that ideology "is in itself a cause of violence" whathehell May 2015 #116

Oh yes, ideologies have proven they can be cause for violence Yorktown May 2015 #117

They "can be" is not the same as they "are" whathehell May 2015 #119

As things stand now, Islam is different regarding literalism. Yorktown May 2015 #120

Hitler was a catholic. beam me up scottie May 2015 #50

LOL whathehell May 2015 #76

Mocking religion isn't hate speech, mocking the transgender is. Humanist_Activist May 2015 #56

I want to know why wasn't this post hidden too?: beam me up scottie May 2015 #63

Because the jury system is broken and the administration don't care. Humanist_Activist May 2015 #64

Tis true. beam me up scottie May 2015 #65

Thanks for posting that LostOne4Ever May 2015 #66

That is hugely bigoted and that poster should not even be on DU. Bluenorthwest May 2015 #73

Sez you.. whathehell May 2015 #75

Every religion I have studied says that 'change' or redemption requires acts of penance and making Bluenorthwest May 2015 #81

So you are claiming that you changed? That you are no longer a transphobe? Humanist_Activist May 2015 #91

First of all, do not assume you have the right to define me.. whathehell May 2015 #96

This message was self-deleted by its author Freelancer May 2015 #61

It seems to be that how people view hate speech goldent May 2015 #16

So next time an Atheist says something offensive to a Christian.... davidn3600 May 2015 #21

If the Christian decides to get so mad over it, they become violent.. apparently, yes. Warren DeMontague May 2015 #26

....I'm starting to think DU could really use a 1st Amendment group. Warren DeMontague May 2015 #24

Post removed Post removed May 2015 #30

Very well written. Yorktown May 2015 #34

Wow, you and your Muslim phobia! How do you sleep whilst Muslims akbacchus_BC May 2015 #43

Message auto-removed Name removed May 2015 #51

BS Skittles May 2015 #60

Hate speech is always a crime! akbacchus_BC May 2015 #40

Not in the US. Behind the Aegis May 2015 #46

Why you say that? akbacchus_BC May 2015 #49

In the US, hate speech is not a crime. Behind the Aegis May 2015 #52

No, it isnt. Warren DeMontague May 2015 #54

Wait. Wut? GGJohn May 2015 #78

Sez who? n/t X_Digger May 2015 #89

No, it isn't, and what Geller did wasn't hate speech. Yo_Mama May 2015 #99

Who needs butter? I've got plenty! Initech May 2015 #48

Hey, aren't you the guy who teaches kids in CCD(Catholic Sunday School) that LGBT people are... Humanist_Activist May 2015 #55

If gay people were to start shooting people in reaction to it, THEN the speech would be criminal. Warren DeMontague May 2015 #57

I just find it fucking funny that we have openly homophobic and transphobic people... Humanist_Activist May 2015 #58

Is it a crime when we do it here against Republican thieves and psychos? True Blue Door May 2015 #62

This message was self-deleted by its author Freelancer May 2015 #67

Can I rec this post? beam me up scottie May 2015 #68

This message was self-deleted by its author Freelancer May 2015 #84

Welcome to DU. GGJohn May 2015 #85

Free speech does allow you to shout "Fire" in a crowded theatre. People always get that quote wrong. Donald Ian Rankin May 2015 #69

Schenk: urging people to resist the draft. Dreadful decision, not applicable. Warren Stupidity May 2015 #70

Here is where you get it wrong Lee-Lee May 2015 #71

In the US each year the FBI calls an average of about 1,200 crimes against LGBT as bias crimes Bluenorthwest May 2015 #80

Given the author of the OP, they would probably blame the organizers of the LGBT events. n/t Humanist_Activist May 2015 #92

You keep refusing to address direct questions and challenges to your vile concept so let's just cut Bluenorthwest May 2015 #74

The problem is . . . gollygee May 2015 #79

is it a crime to yell "fire" in a crowded theater if the theater is on fire? DeadEyeDyck May 2015 #83

The actual decision concurred with criminalization of advocating draft resistance. Warren Stupidity May 2015 #90

Certainly not. As to whether the theatre whathehell May 2015 #108

Wow, you scare me more than the NSA. Jesus, get a clue. nt Logical May 2015 #86

"Is there value to the democratic process in Geller's speech?" That shouldn't matter. Throd May 2015 #93

Once again, a call for limiting free speech on DU SickOfTheOnePct May 2015 #94

Hate speech is free speech unfortunately. Koch Ebola May 2015 #95

"Hate speech is free speech unfortunately." GGJohn May 2015 #100

Getting to a mass audience is a problem. Koch Ebola May 2015 #109

... GGJohn May 2015 #111

Yeah, however... Koch Ebola May 2015 #118

I thought incitement to violence was a crime, but Jamastiene May 2015 #101

It was Geller's right, but what she did WASN'T morally right. Jamaal510 May 2015 #102

Striking that your cases are all from before the 1960s and modern First Amendment jurisprudence. Unvanguard May 2015 #110

Take it up with the Supreme Court. NaturalHigh May 2015 #114

Are theatre fires that much of an issue year days? madville May 2015 #115