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MaggieD

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167. That is the Naderite song and dance

Wed May 6, 2015, 06:55 PM

May 2015

Believe me, after 15 years we all know it well. It's bunk, but you guys have your excuses down pat. I will give you that.

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The DNC has a strong HRC bias. It's ludicrous to deny that [View all] cali May 2015 OP

Yawn trumad May 2015 #1

When the rules were made, it's possible she was the only yeoman6987 May 2015 #239

How many of the "independent" debates included Mike Gravel? brooklynite May 2015 #2

Oh good, so Vermin Supreme will be in all six DNC debates? Erich Bloodaxe BSN May 2015 #3

Not until he's head over heels. Orrex May 2015 #9

as I recall Dennis Kucinich was kept out of some DNC debates cali May 2015 #4

It doesn't keep out lesser know candidates if DNC rules allow them in... brooklynite May 2015 #6

I'm more concerned about the number of debates but eligibility is also an issue Jim Lane May 2015 #16

There were also twice as many candidates, which means half as much time for each brooklynite May 2015 #17

Not exactly, because time wasn't allocated equally Jim Lane May 2015 #25

+1 daleanime May 2015 #31

And the "minor" contenders were often asked questions about the major ones n/t arcane1 May 2015 #79

or UFOs frylock May 2015 #159

Message auto-removed Name removed May 2015 #242

One of my objections is that this would exclude the debate that is usually hosted by the League of jwirr May 2015 #18

Last League of Women's Presidential Debate was in 1988. ieoeja May 2015 #39

Didn't realize that. Thank you. jwirr May 2015 #40

Though they still host local debates nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #48

I agree which is why I was upset about this. jwirr May 2015 #52

In some cases cali, less exposure is most likely the goal. If they want to be elected Autumn May 2015 #11

Hell yes.... daleanime May 2015 #34

Did you agree with your host Agschmid aspirant May 2015 #59

Every person here is capable of forming their own opinion. Autumn May 2015 #65

I read your post. aspirant May 2015 #74

You didn't quote my post. You didn't even respond to my post. Autumn May 2015 #77

"Six debates are ridiculous" aspirant May 2015 #84

I think that the DNC and H.Clinton would prefer not to have any debates. Actually rhett o rick May 2015 #246

When a "lesser" candidate, LWolf May 2015 #7

The debates were great when Gravel and Kucinich and Sharpton were there. They were pretty sabrina 1 May 2015 #222

The DNC is always going to support the person(s) they think can win the general. nt BreakfastClub May 2015 #5

Exactly. Not too hard to understand. n/t beaglelover May 2015 #20

Message auto-removed Name removed May 2015 #244

So if that person was republican, that person would be supported? daleanime May 2015 #38

Is it their job to quash the other candidates? AgingAmerican May 2015 #71

Is the DNC running ads to "quash" Berine? JoePhilly May 2015 #83

They are doing two things, IMHO AgingAmerican May 2015 #88

Yea, I remember how Hillary self-destucted against Obama. JoePhilly May 2015 #97

She went full negative AgingAmerican May 2015 #101

I'm pretty sure that the 2008 Dem primary went longer than any in my lifetime JoePhilly May 2015 #104

Message auto-removed Name removed May 2015 #243

I hope you see how wrong that is. They should not be favoring one Democrat over other rhett o rick May 2015 #247

Wasn't it a similar situation at the beginning of the 2008 election? Vinca May 2015 #8

And this is the sort of thing I alluded to in pointing out Bernie may run as a Democrat KittyWampus May 2015 #10

He hasn't switched parties MaggieD May 2015 #29

You can't switch in Vermont nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #51

Well then why does he have (I) on his name? MaggieD May 2015 #61

I am not supporting him, I am just telling you a fact nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #68

It's MY business - I'm a Democrat MaggieD May 2015 #73

Well your business should be clear by now nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #75

If he is "running as a dem" MaggieD May 2015 #91

Not to those who are honest nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #96

I am a partisan MaggieD May 2015 #98

Take it to the DNC nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #106

LOL - isn't that the complaint in the OP? MaggieD May 2015 #107

Acutalliy no, you are complaining that they are nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #109

See "Leahy, Patrick - DEMOCRAT" MaggieD May 2015 #92

So you are calling the state of VT Baloney? nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #93

No, I'm calling your excuses for Bernie baloney (nt) MaggieD May 2015 #95

I live in California MaggieD nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #105

Again, has NOTHING TO DO with party registration MaggieD May 2015 #108

I once again URGE YOU to contact the party nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #111

Why would I need to contact the party? MaggieD May 2015 #112

You made quite blatant charges that nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #113

It's not a "charge" it is a fact MaggieD May 2015 #114

That is a cop out nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #115

No, it's political reality MaggieD May 2015 #117

Just trying to help once again nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #118

LOL - I max out to the DNC in election years MaggieD May 2015 #119

Nevertheless nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #122

Oh if only the purists understood politics MaggieD May 2015 #127

That purist thing does not fly with me nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #128

I already responded to your CU question MaggieD May 2015 #133

You are barking to the wrong crowd there nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #134

I'm a DEMOCRAT MaggieD May 2015 #136

Well it was 2009 and a few things that made me part of the largest growing nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #138

Well since you're NOT a DEMOCRAT MaggieD May 2015 #140

I am just telling you to CONTACT THE PARTY nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #142

There is no need to contact the party MaggieD May 2015 #144

Speaking about lectures :-) nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #146

I won't give a dime to the DNC MaggieD May 2015 #147

That be good nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #149

You're not a DEMOCRAT MaggieD May 2015 #153

Actually one of them is running for the state assembly on the democratic ticket nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #154

All I know is what you have posted MaggieD May 2015 #156

Even more cute and naive nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #158

He's useful right now MaggieD May 2015 #160

BUT the party does not agree with you nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #163

LOL - the party does not take Bernie seriously MaggieD May 2015 #164

I will take what you are saying with one of these nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #170

Comparing Bernie to Obama is laughable MaggieD May 2015 #181

Keep 'em coming nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #183

Darn those Left Leaning Independents Autumn May 2015 #189

In some things I am to the left of Bernie Sanders nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #191

Check your inbox Autumn May 2015 #192

Check it back nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #193

He is running as a DEMOCRAT AgingAmerican May 2015 #89

As evidenced by what? MaggieD May 2015 #94

As evidenced by the fact he is running for the Democratic nomination AgingAmerican May 2015 #194

not this shit again.. frylock May 2015 #161

We are now into Nader nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #165

Schooled? LMAO! MaggieD May 2015 #171

He's FUCKING running as a Democrat.. frylock May 2015 #173

How do you "run as a Democrat" MaggieD May 2015 #175

Vermont State Law nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #184

Vermont state law keeps him from representing himself as a Dem? MaggieD May 2015 #185

I do not care what you think nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #186

LOL - all the sudden? MaggieD May 2015 #203

You are so damn off base nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #204

You run in the Democratic primary cyberswede May 2015 #190

That horse is cute nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #197

Are you some sort of purist? frylock May 2015 #200

I'm in the mood for vanilla ice cream. Autumn May 2015 #188

I like caramel myself frylock May 2015 #202

Sugar free, either nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #205

The right toppings can make it downright rhapsodic, though. QC May 2015 #231

Well some nuts would be good nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #236

Definitely! n/t QC May 2015 #249

... Puglover May 2015 #251

Vanilla Alittleliberal May 2015 #241

You clearly are clueless about Bernie. HERVEPA May 2015 #166

What's it like to be a rocket scientist? L0oniX May 2015 #199

I feel like one here some days MaggieD May 2015 #201

Just because you fail to understand it nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #207

LOL - you're getting closer MaggieD May 2015 #208

We have passed nothing you still fail to understand how the system works nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #209

No really, it was impressive MaggieD May 2015 #210

Just because you refuse to understand how it works in the state of vermont nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #211

I don't see it that way MaggieD May 2015 #212

Now we crossed into the twilight zone nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #216

6 is way too low. The exclusivity rule is going to raise eyebrows. mmonk May 2015 #12

+1. If they don't want to schedule more than 6, that's their call, winter is coming May 2015 #14

DNC wants to run government like a Wall Street bank, they do what they want, we bail them out. whereisjustice May 2015 #13

No I won't deny it but 6 debates is just fine. hrmjustin May 2015 #15

"DNC members are overwhelmingly pro-Clinton" Freddie Stubbs May 2015 #19

Imagine that MaggieD May 2015 #30

we have three candidates so far, six debates is more than enough. if we had 22, like the republicans La Lioness Priyanka May 2015 #21

six is too few, but what I find troubling is the repuke style exclusionary claus cali May 2015 #22

3? hootinholler May 2015 #35

I am counting O'malley and Sanders (who is technically not a Democrat) La Lioness Priyanka May 2015 #44

O'malley hasn't declared yet hootinholler May 2015 #53

This is how i got to three. nt La Lioness Priyanka May 2015 #55

Nah, let's have 50 debates with all DUers invited to participate in the last 35. stevenleser May 2015 #85

LOL. La Lioness Priyanka May 2015 #86

Its the 'debates' vs republicans that should be 22 or more, all on public free TV Sunlei May 2015 #23

The DNC is about getting Democrats elected justiceischeap May 2015 #24

The Convention is not about who gets Nominated... HoosierCowboy May 2015 #26

Blue sky politics,,,,,,, Cryptoad May 2015 #27

yes, it's called the DEMOCRATIC party MaggieD May 2015 #28

The Clinton's have spent over two decades helping build the careers of Democrats geek tragedy May 2015 #32

In 2008 she didn't have Wasserman-Schultz rigging the national game for her. PassingFair May 2015 #43

Ah, no.... MaggieD May 2015 #110

Only 6 Debaates? My first thought was fredamae May 2015 #33

So does DU philosslayer May 2015 #36

I guess they think Hillary can't stand the heat, so they'll build a smaller kitchen. n/t winter is coming May 2015 #37

Did the DLC consult with the candidates about the exclusionary clause? If not, why not? Tierra_y_Libertad May 2015 #41

I would like debates held by the League of Woman Voters, those of us old enough to remember Dragonfli May 2015 #42

I would love to see the LWV hold some debates. winter is coming May 2015 #177

This should be an OP, woo me with science May 2015 #187

I'm with you, Dragonfli! Enthusiast May 2015 #245

The Democratic Party has a strong HRC bias. That's why she's going to win the nomination. Unvanguard May 2015 #45

The point is that bias is limiting the opportunity of challengers Maedhros May 2015 #56

They're limiting the number of debates because there is one overwhelming favorite. Unvanguard May 2015 #60

There were 27 Democratic debates in 2008. Maedhros May 2015 #62

There was a competitive primary in 2008. Unvanguard May 2015 #64

There is one in 2016, too. [n/t] Maedhros May 2015 #66

Which Hillary entered as the front runner AgingAmerican May 2015 #72

It is not for the party to decide BrotherIvan May 2015 #195

Yes, gearing up since Election Day, 2012 to be exact. fadedrose May 2015 #46

Its a bias towards winning. DCBob May 2015 #47

So the DNC should pick the candidate for us AgingAmerican May 2015 #50

No. Whomever is the front runner going into the debates will benefit. DCBob May 2015 #54

Whomever is frontrunner AgingAmerican May 2015 #57

As I said I suspect the DNC doesn't want an ugly drawn out campaign. DCBob May 2015 #58

The DNC doesn't want Democracy AgingAmerican May 2015 #67

Yeah, the 2008 primary season led to the election of McCain/Palin. winter is coming May 2015 #87

Different situation.. different time. DCBob May 2015 #168

So your belief that a competitive primary season will damage our nominee's prospects winter is coming May 2015 #176

Replace "The DNC has", with "Democrats have" and your subject becomes correct. stevenleser May 2015 #49

It is not the DNC's job to grease the skids for one candidate over the others. AtomicKitten May 2015 #63

Why should the DNC do jack for a guy.... MaggieD May 2015 #99

Because he is a declared candidate running in the Democratic primary. AtomicKitten May 2015 #100

So let's say Ted Cruz decides to run in the democratic primary MaggieD May 2015 #102

His inclusion in the primary was sanctioned by the DNC. AtomicKitten May 2015 #103

"The DNC has a strong HRC bias." workinclasszero May 2015 #69

Well, at least you aren't denying they're rigging it. Marr May 2015 #121

Get real will you? workinclasszero May 2015 #124

Again, at least you aren't denying they're rigging it for Hillary. /nt Marr May 2015 #126

So they're structuring the debate rules to favor someone who didn't win the nomination in '08 winter is coming May 2015 #162

"DNC members want to win the Presidency." NCTraveler May 2015 #70

The Democratic rank-n-file seem to have a pretty strong bias as well. Perhaps the DNC is just...... Tarheel_Dem May 2015 #76

Yup rank-n-file dems definitely biased!! workinclasszero May 2015 #78

I love it cuz it pisses off all the right people. Tarheel_Dem May 2015 #80

This DNC Ad was deceptive and infuriating VideoGameVet May 2015 #81

You DO know that they don't ASK for any $$$...right? brooklynite May 2015 #90

The email VideoGameVet May 2015 #262

I think Hillary and the DNC will welcome Bernie in the debates. NoJusticeNoPeace May 2015 #82

He is part of the race, here from DNC page nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #116

Yes, by all means.... MaggieD May 2015 #120

Here you go nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #123

Oh and one more thing nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #125

Here is what I understand.... MaggieD May 2015 #130

Ah NADER, of course nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #132

Facing reality would be awesome MaggieD May 2015 #135

Yup it would be awesome nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #137

Again, more political naivety MaggieD May 2015 #139

They were far more than those who voted for Nader nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #141

And that would have been the case.... MaggieD May 2015 #145

So your argument is essentially that nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #148

My argument is very simple MaggieD May 2015 #150

And extremely naive nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #151

I know plenty of politicians MaggieD May 2015 #155

Again, cute and naive nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #157

That is the Naderite song and dance MaggieD May 2015 #167

You call history exccuses nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #172

No, I call denial of reality excuses MaggieD May 2015 #174

You are still telling me that the dumping of thousands of voters nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #179

I'm saying we still would have won if not for the purists MaggieD May 2015 #180

Has it ever occurred to you that Liberals nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #182

Yes, it has MaggieD May 2015 #213

Ah that dog wistle, the extreme left! nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #217

So you don't think there is ..... MaggieD May 2015 #218

In the United States, no nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #220

You should come to Seattle MaggieD May 2015 #224

You are right I forgot about Seattle... yup you are correct Mayor Murray has done nothing nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #234

Ed Murray despises the extreme left MaggieD May 2015 #248

So we are back to whistles nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #252

I'm just saying your assumption.... MaggieD May 2015 #253

And I do not pay attention to people who use nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #254

Oh just admit you stepped in it MaggieD May 2015 #255

Believe you me you used apolitical dog whistle nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #256

I don't think you know what a dog whistle is MaggieD May 2015 #257

Please proceed governor nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #258

LOL! All of the sudden? MaggieD May 2015 #260

"I don't think you know what a dog whistle is" sufrommich May 2015 #259

By the way - easy peasy MaggieD May 2015 #221

Sorry not retyping all of this nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #223

You're backsliding MaggieD May 2015 #225

It has to do ewith the party ultimately nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #229

Has to do with the national party MaggieD May 2015 #233

What progress, once again from the NATIONAL PARTY nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #235

Don't stop believing! MaggieD May 2015 #238

Yeah, the copy and paste thing.... MaggieD May 2015 #226

Of course it is not nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #232

And you are taking the way out nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #226

Bad schools are a big problem too MaggieD May 2015 #228

You are dodging, I want specifics nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #230

I'm fresh out of time MaggieD May 2015 #240

GOLDSTEIN!!! frylock May 2015 #169

Hillary will be elected by the Dems who vote for her upaloopa May 2015 #129

Exactly MaggieD May 2015 #131

I get the feeling in reading some of the posts Hillary is the one complaining about the Thinkingabout May 2015 #178

Oh well as long as you "have a feeling" MaggieD May 2015 #215

Always been obvious to me Puzzledtraveller May 2015 #143

As many are here, if the DNC gives as much opposition to " Another " ,,,, orpupilofnature57 May 2015 #152

Of course they do. They had a strong backing for Bill Clinton and I don't see why Rex May 2015 #196

DNC is owned by corporate Wall Street banksters. Democratic principles are on life support. L0oniX May 2015 #198

Simple to solve. RichVRichV May 2015 #206

Shame on them MaggieD May 2015 #214

Any Dem over any Repug progressiveforever May 2015 #219

It should be obvious to anyone who has ever witnessed H. Clinton in a debate tularetom May 2015 #237

K&R woo me with science May 2015 #250

Thanks. And they are pro Clinton since long time ago. mylye2222 May 2015 #261