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Warpy

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36. Geller is what she is.

Mon May 4, 2015, 05:02 PM

May 2015

My ire is reserved for the school system that sponsored her bile. What the hell were they thinking? Hate should never have any sort of official sanction.

Also, she was in little danger. She was guarded to the max and the two yahoos who showed up were dressed like central casting Jihadists with Kevlar and Big Ugly Guns.

Also, freedom of speech is not absolute. Oh, she'll never be arrested for spewing her bile and that's what freedom of speech means. However, going out of your way to goad other human beings is not a smart thing to do. Lots of them will try to hit back.

I have no sympathy for Geller in this. I have no sympathy for the idiots who showed up to defend Islam from cartoons and got shot before they could shoot anybody else.

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So what if a horrible, racist, ultra-right-wing woman were raped? [View all] Goblinmonger May 2015 OP

Hypocrisy on DU? Surely not... N.T. Donald Ian Rankin May 2015 #1

I know. Color me shocked. Goblinmonger May 2015 #4

Most of the clocks here are stopped at roughly the right time. Don't mistake that for ticking. N.T. Donald Ian Rankin May 2015 #7

What a great line! You're absolutely right. (n/t) Jim Lane May 2015 #50

Okay shenmue May 2015 #2

When you're right, you're right tkmorris May 2015 #3

Thanks. I'll admit I'm not always right. Goblinmonger May 2015 #5

Rape isn't something you invite...regardless of what r/wers would have you believe. Cerridwen May 2015 #6

Getting shot at because you are drawing cartoon, though. Goblinmonger May 2015 #11

What are you replying to? Cerridwen May 2015 #70

The equivalency is that there are no non-violent offensive actions that justify a violent reaction. PeaceNikki May 2015 #12

Great post SickOfTheOnePct May 2015 #35

Excellent post. hifiguy May 2015 #44

+1. 'These are grown sentient thinking human beings.' And there are better choices than killing. n/t freshwest May 2015 #59

Can you stop being sensible? :-) REP May 2015 #69

Same question for you. Cerridwen May 2015 #71

The analogy I saw was this- snooper2 May 2015 #8

there was little chance of her getting attacked... lame54 May 2015 #9

Can we address how insane it is that ANYONE was at risk for being attacked? theboss May 2015 #24

Then everyone would want the rapist arrested, just like everyone wanted the shooters arrested. Erich Bloodaxe BSN May 2015 #10

She successfully baited the lowest common denominators-- which is not blaming anyone. LanternWaste May 2015 #13

Seems like it is excusing them. Goblinmonger May 2015 #14

Do you feel the same way about that preacher that went to Dearborn Mi to burn the Koran? nt Snotcicles May 2015 #15

Yup. He has freedom of speech for that, too. Goblinmonger May 2015 #16

So you don't think a Florida Preacher traveling to the most Snotcicles May 2015 #19

It's still protected. Goblinmonger May 2015 #22

No my point was you were equating "baiting" to "a women wearing slutty clothes". Snotcicles May 2015 #28

it is unbelievable they cannot see the difference Skittles May 2015 #72

Of course it was baiting. And my response is, So what? theboss May 2015 #26

Sure it was provoking... So what? Oktober May 2015 #54

nor does calling that same free speech irresponsible negate its original freedom LanternWaste May 2015 #48

I do. Dr. Strange May 2015 #57

Rational observation however, forces us to conclude that of the two, the meter, the intent and the c LanternWaste May 2015 #46

Yep, if you say "I'm not surprized, I saw that coming" you are victim blaming. nt Snotcicles May 2015 #56

go away, baitin' AngryAmish May 2015 #55

What if a woman trolled rapists, gave out her address, and waited with a shotgun? Half-Century Man May 2015 #17

I don't care if she walked naked through a frat house Goblinmonger May 2015 #20

+1 FLPanhandle May 2015 #27

No woman should ever be raped or murdered. Half-Century Man May 2015 #43

Geller's not the victim here. Tommy_Carcetti May 2015 #18

Her group as a whole were attacked. Goblinmonger May 2015 #21

If the organizers of the event set it up to provoke the likelihood of such an attack... Tommy_Carcetti May 2015 #23

How about Goblinmonger May 2015 #25

Again, Pam Geller's not the victim. Tommy_Carcetti May 2015 #29

"Maybe the security who got shot is" melman May 2015 #75

Rhetorical flourish. Fixed for you. Tommy_Carcetti May 2015 #77

"Maybe" the guard who got shot phil89 May 2015 #76

See post 77. Tommy_Carcetti May 2015 #78

They share no responsibility except in the vaguest moral sense theboss May 2015 #30

She could have been harmed though. darkangel218 May 2015 #31

If she was a target, she was a willing one. Tommy_Carcetti May 2015 #37

Post removed Post removed May 2015 #39

Nope. Tommy_Carcetti May 2015 #42

She was voluntarily shot at? theboss May 2015 #45

Well, she personally wasn't. Tommy_Carcetti May 2015 #47

When Larry Flynt was shot by an anti-porn fanatic, was he asking for it? theboss May 2015 #49

Yes, MLK was totally asking for it. Tommy_Carcetti May 2015 #51

Actually, it sort of was theboss May 2015 #52

By drawing pictures? oberliner May 2015 #60

+1 Jesus Malverde May 2015 #68

"If she was a target, she was a willing one." darkangel218 May 2015 #41

'That being said'...usually means you are trying to link two things that have no relationship. Rex May 2015 #32

+1. Snotcicles May 2015 #40

Gellar was 100% unharmed Scootaloo May 2015 #33

What happened to Geller? Iggo May 2015 #34

Geller is what she is. Warpy May 2015 #36

I absolutely agree Skittles May 2015 #38

I agree. And I think the rape analogy isn't appropriate. cui bono May 2015 #63

so she asked for it? Goblinmonger May 2015 #64

Not what I agreed to at all. cui bono May 2015 #67

Pamela Geller is NOT a victim Tom Ripley May 2015 #53

Dude, thats sick DiverDave May 2015 #58

Effing ridiculous post... joeybee12 May 2015 #61

even those that don't care about free speech Goblinmonger May 2015 #65

that sails right over their heads Skittles May 2015 #73

Did this mythical "horrible, racist, ultra-right-wing woman"... 99Forever May 2015 #62

so there is a scenario Goblinmonger May 2015 #66

Hey, it's your sick, dispicable analogy. 99Forever May 2015 #74