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fadedrose

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12. Shootings in Texas

Sun May 3, 2015, 10:55 PM

May 2015

Last edited Mon May 4, 2015, 12:32 AM - Edit history (1)

The following version of events was given by me because when Janey asked me, I really didn't know. Just heard about 2 killed. I assumed that the 2 were involved with the art contest, like with Charlie Hebdo.

Actually 2 gunmen were shot and killed in a car that may have had nothing to do with the meeting, repeat, MAY HAVE HAD ....

But by now, maybe they know...

The town may or may not have been small. Depends on what you call small, I guess.

All Wrong:
Some guys drawing or having pictures of Mohamed in a small town in Texas. Jihadists got wind of it, killed one guy and shot a couple - details on CNN at midnight.

Some lady named Geller belongs to some American Freedom Group that seems to incite people to violence.. this part was given to me by a DU'er, and I trust it.

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CNN has the Texas shootings on now [View all] fadedrose May 2015 OP

Garland is a small bed room community near Dallas Gothmog May 2015 #1

The Jihadists have just introduced themselves fadedrose May 2015 #2

Except the hosts are inciting violence. eloydude May 2015 #3

Inciting violence how? Nuclear Unicorn May 2015 #4

Where did anyone involved incite violence? linuxman May 2015 #5

Didn't you say in another thread you SAW this coming? blm May 2015 #45

the two aren't part and parcel. linuxman May 2015 #56

Just repeated what you said: You SAW it coming. blm May 2015 #71

. linuxman May 2015 #78

No. I am saying that RW fundamentalist extremists burning Bibles in Texas blm May 2015 #82

I doubt it. nt linuxman May 2015 #83

I don't. RW American fundie extremists have been doing it already when UNPROVOKED blm May 2015 #89

Whatever fantasies are held about Christians reacting violently to a hypothetical bible-burning, razorman May 2015 #105

Uh….or whatever fantasies are held about RW extremist Christians shooting temples blm May 2015 #108

If those goalposts get heavy, feel free to set them down any old place. linuxman May 2015 #94

I said IF it happened on the same scale. Some of the crowd that showed up at Bundy Ranch blm May 2015 #98

Sorry itcfish May 2015 #96

Screaming fire is illegal because it induces panic. linuxman May 2015 #97

Doesn't matter. LiberalAndProud May 2015 #80

Of course, I am saying that the result is not unexpected and blm May 2015 #81

Never heard of her fadedrose May 2015 #6

inciting violence? Whiskey Jim May 2015 #7

LOL Skittles May 2015 #84

Great catch and toss, Skittles. blm May 2015 #112

you know it, blm Skittles May 2015 #114

Violence is wrong and the attack on them is wrong. hrmjustin May 2015 #10

Not in the eyes of the law, they're not. GGJohn May 2015 #11

I wouldn't cross the street to piss on Gellar if she were on fire, but this isn't incitement. n/t X_Digger May 2015 #21

Not even close to incitment. See Brandenburg v. Ohio (link below) for the definition of incitment. kelly1mm May 2015 #32

Don't want to look too far out... eloydude May 2015 #35

yeah she is a pretty big wackodoodle but I doubt this was a false flag. nt kelly1mm May 2015 #39

Right, we don't know yet. eloydude May 2015 #40

I see you are new here. Speculation is what DU does best! nt kelly1mm May 2015 #44

The tin foil hat is strong with this one. NobodyHere May 2015 #113

Oh bullshit on that. This is America where you can make fun of stupid shit like religion seveneyes May 2015 #77

This event was hosted by Pamela Geller. Raine1967 May 2015 #53

CNN says she was quickly "whisked away." moondust May 2015 #63

Sure it was, but it's still free speech. eom. GGJohn May 2015 #68

235,000 population. TexasTowelie May 2015 #22

Tammywammy just told me that Garland is not a small town fadedrose May 2015 #46

You are speculating. I repeat. The identities of the gunmen are NOT known. ScreamingMeemie May 2015 #47

Whoever told me that Geller was in charge of the meeting fadedrose May 2015 #54

I gave you CBS because I figured you would say that about a Fox affiliate ScreamingMeemie May 2015 #55

If you look at the time of the posts, fadedrose May 2015 #58

I'm looking at one of your posts now... where inaccurate info wasn't corrected. ScreamingMeemie May 2015 #64

I posted the link to the local Fox affiliate. tammywammy May 2015 #59

You've posted so much inaccurate information you should really delete this thread. tammywammy May 2015 #50

Now Pamela Geller will have a higher profile and probably more supporters. Ugh. Geller is okaawhatever May 2015 #8

Agreed--expect her to use this incident to gain publicity. nt TexasTowelie May 2015 #23

What happened? JaneyVee May 2015 #9

Shootings in Texas fadedrose May 2015 #12

Really? Jihadists killed people at the event? JaneyVee May 2015 #13

Breaking news on NOW on cnn fadedrose May 2015 #15

No. Two gunmen were killed and an officer was wounded. ScreamingMeemie May 2015 #17

See thread in LBN at TexasTowelie May 2015 #33

+1 — EOM Raine1967 May 2015 #52

Your facts are incorrect. One officer was injured. The two gunmen are dead. ScreamingMeemie May 2015 #14

News was uncertain fadedrose May 2015 #16

The news has been certain out of Dallas. ScreamingMeemie May 2015 #18

You should watch the local DFW news then tammywammy May 2015 #19

I'm getting the feeling this poster doesn't care... ScreamingMeemie May 2015 #25

Agreed. n/t tammywammy May 2015 #28

Btw, Garland isn't a small town. n/t tammywammy May 2015 #34

Garland is not really a small town TexasProgresive May 2015 #42

This. ScreamingMeemie May 2015 #43

That was the headline I heard, the very first thing fadedrose May 2015 #70

Islamists killed - 2 in a car shot fadedrose May 2015 #20

No one is reporting "Islamist" locally here. ScreamingMeemie May 2015 #27

Lots of people make fun of others Whiskey Jim May 2015 #29

No local news has identified the dead suspects. tammywammy May 2015 #30

That's a good point. Everyone has their breaking point on what they consider acceptable and what's liberal_at_heart May 2015 #31

I would point out that religious groups and persons regularly denigrate LGBT people and the fact Bluenorthwest May 2015 #91

Why were there armed SWAT teams guarding this event ? n/t jaysunb May 2015 #24

There may have been a report of a threat of violence directed at this event. eom. GGJohn May 2015 #26

See post #33. TexasTowelie May 2015 #36

When it comes to drawing the prophet Whiskey Jim May 2015 #37

The event center forced event organizers to put $10k towards security metalbot May 2015 #38

because repukes love taxpayer-paid protection for their bullshit Skittles May 2015 #85

scenario enid602 May 2015 #41

Although it's being "reported" here differently, none of the actual facts of the case ScreamingMeemie May 2015 #48

CNN was reporting this as a *Free Speech* event. Horse shit… It was a HATE EVENT. LINK: Raine1967 May 2015 #49

No - the hate is what Jihadists did killing Theo Van Gogh and threatening Molly Norris Algernon Moncrieff May 2015 #60

My feeling is this: Raine1967 May 2015 #66

Let me get this straight: Act_of_Reparation May 2015 #72

I KNEW that was coming. beam me up scottie May 2015 #76

It's about vicious, vile haters on BOTH sides. stranger81 May 2015 #79

yup Skittles May 2015 #86

Simple, accurate observation. Yet it is getting turned around to accuse blm May 2015 #95

Just would like to highlight.... AlbertCat May 2015 #99

EXACTLY!!! blm May 2015 #104

Listening to the news. TexasTowelie May 2015 #51

This is all very suspicious jaysunb May 2015 #57

The event has to provide extra security. tammywammy May 2015 #61

SWAT teams are now providing security at private events ? jaysunb May 2015 #65

I'm not sure. tammywammy May 2015 #67

The CNN reports show a picture of the organizer w/ a SWAT jaysunb May 2015 #69

Tax payer dollars weren't paying for these SWAT officers, GGJohn May 2015 #75

People who have attempted to exercise their free speech and free press rights sometimes end up dead Algernon Moncrieff May 2015 #62

And sometimes they get murdered just for existing Scootaloo May 2015 #74

Horrible, to be sure, but were either of them drawing pictures of a prophet? Algernon Moncrieff May 2015 #87

No, they were murdered by people offended by the fact that these men existed. Scootaloo May 2015 #88

Mutual hatred and sense of offense. blm May 2015 #90

No kidding. blm May 2015 #73

So your theory is that minority groups that are subjected to denigrating speech should respond with Bluenorthwest May 2015 #92

Not at all. blm May 2015 #93

Why is religion in scare quotes? Act_of_Reparation May 2015 #100

I think most don't. I think many people USE 'religion' to excuse their blm May 2015 #101

Why do you think that? Act_of_Reparation May 2015 #102

Their words and actions are usually demonstrable evidence to the contrary. blm May 2015 #103

I'd start pumping my breaks right about here: Act_of_Reparation May 2015 #106

No kidding, and here I thought I was using one example…you know, as an EXAMPLE. blm May 2015 #107

I read what you wrote. Act_of_Reparation May 2015 #110

I clearly said these people USE their warped view of religion to excuse their evilness. blm May 2015 #111

I am able to read. Act_of_Reparation May 2015 #115

I propose that we need more Mohammed Art Contests in the U.S. Quantess May 2015 #109