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Jackpine Radical

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47. There was clear, easily demonstrable intent to injure, if not to kill.
Fri May 1, 2015, 01:23 PM
May 2015
Gray is not the first person to come out of a Baltimore police wagon with serious injuries. Relatives of Dondi Johnson Sr., who was left a paraplegic after a 2005 police van ride, won a $7.4 million verdict against police officers. A year earlier, Jeffrey Alston was awarded $39 million by a jury after he became paralyzed from the neck down as the result of a van ride. Others have also received payouts after filing lawsuits.

For some, such injuries have been inflicted by what is known as a "rough ride" — an "unsanctioned technique" in which police vans are driven to cause "injury or pain" to unbuckled, handcuffed detainees, former city police officer Charles J. Key testified as an expert five years ago in a lawsuit over Johnson's subsequent death.

As daily protests continue in the streets of Baltimore, authorities are trying to determine how Gray was injured, and their focus is on the 30-minute van ride that followed his arrest. "It's clear what happened, happened inside the van," Mayor Stephanie Rawlings-Blake said Monday at a news conference.

Christine Abbott, a 27-year-old assistant librarian at the Johns Hopkins University, is suing city officers in federal court, alleging that she got such a ride in 2012. According to the suit, officers cuffed Abbott's hands behind her back, threw her into a police van, left her unbuckled and "maniacally drove" her to the Northern District police station, "tossing [her] around the interior of the police van."

My faith in the justice system just got a shot of hope in the arm! MoonRiver May 2015 #1
What is the world coming to CNN with the correct story but just wait they will screw it up. gordianot May 2015 #2
Greatest Page for this important story! n/t CaliforniaPeggy May 2015 #3
Excellent news! Dr Hobbitstein May 2015 #4
I have been saying that Mayor Rawlings-Blake and Commissioner Batts want justice here. Vattel May 2015 #8
Yeah, after everything had gone down Dr Hobbitstein May 2015 #11
I love Baltimore, and Batts is definitely on the side of Baltimore. Vattel May 2015 #13
So is anyone going to investigate the bullshit WaPo "leak"? Warren Stupidity May 2015 #5
Manslaughter vs murder is probably a legal definition vs common definition issue. jeff47 May 2015 #14
Can someone please explain what "second degree depraved-heart" murder is? hamsterjill May 2015 #6
Callous indifference to human life. Tommy_Carcetti May 2015 #7
Thank you. hamsterjill May 2015 #9
Was the real crime when they put him into the paddy wagon without securing him with a seat belt? I'm KingCharlemagne May 2015 #15
The "rough ride" is what gave cause for the 2nd Degree murder charge. Tommy_Carcetti May 2015 #18
Thanks! I missed the opening few minutes of Ms. Mosby's press conference and so did not KingCharlemagne May 2015 #21
Thanks. (nt) Jackpine Radical May 2015 #42
i love the term. the officers were depraved indeed. Ed Suspicious May 2015 #31
Wikipedia has an entry on "Depraved-Heart Murder" bananas May 2015 #33
I wonder if this would have come down this way had the rioting not happened corkhead May 2015 #10
That is a very good question dumbcat May 2015 #22
"Depraved-heart culture." Jackpine Radical May 2015 #44
apt description heaven05 May 2015 #45
Great news! Jim__ May 2015 #12
finally. BlancheSplanchnik May 2015 #16
Good! Scurrilous May 2015 #17
WOW SunSeeker May 2015 #19
This is AWESOME news! cherokeeprogressive May 2015 #20
Something close to that is likely to happen brush May 2015 #30
Anyone know why the thread on this in Latest Threads was locked? It said it was off topic? Have jwirr May 2015 #23
Always look in the last post: this was a duplicate thread brooklynite May 2015 #25
Thank you. This old lady is not alway computer savvy. jwirr May 2015 #27
it was a duplicate OP magical thyme May 2015 #34
I hope the tide is turning MaggieD May 2015 #24
In this case, perhaps AgingAmerican May 2015 #26
I'm not overly optimistic MaggieD May 2015 #28
The time for establishing true professional standards for law enforcement RiverNoord May 2015 #29
have they actually been arrested? fbc May 2015 #32
Good question! grahamhgreen May 2015 #35
gawd--can we stop hearing how he hurt himself now? librechik May 2015 #36
does this have to go to a grand jury? Takket May 2015 #37
no it doesn't Vattel May 2015 #46
good! and I am also glad to see that the level of the charges seems appropriate Amishman May 2015 #38
I'm just quessing gwheezie May 2015 #39
i agree, thats why murder 2 against the driver is appropriate. Amishman May 2015 #43
There was clear, easily demonstrable intent to injure, if not to kill. Jackpine Radical May 2015 #47
kick samsingh May 2015 #40
higher ups should also be held accountable! G_j May 2015 #41
Any superior who participated in a coverup was an accessory after the fact, Jackpine Radical May 2015 #48
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