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Blue_Tires

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Thu Apr 16, 2015, 01:31 AM Apr 2015

OK...It’s now officially ‘Put up or Shut up’ -time [View all]

Last edited Fri Apr 17, 2015, 05:42 PM - Edit history (2)

Taking the sage advice of DUer riderinthestorm, I’ve decided to put some of my favorite unanswered questions about Edward Snowden in one thread, and give everybody a chance to whack them like a pinata (if you can)...Logically there are only three possible outcomes from this thread: Either I’ll be proven right, I’ll be proven wrong, or my thesis will be inconclusive...

Ready for the challenge?? Want to shut me up once and for all? Want me to convert to a true believer? Want me to flee DU in humiliation? Well now is your chance...IF anybody can definitively prove me wrong, or find some magical way to make perfect sense of all the inconsistencies, my very next thread will be to ask Skinner to nuke this account I've been on since '03, and I won't return...My exit from DU is your trophy -- Now, who wants to get it??

Each question will be a separate post in this thread, and it will branch out from there...I’ll check this thread daily and respond as needed...But first, the ground rules:

1. WE WILL ALL DISCUSS THIS LIKE ADULTS -- This one time I swear to the gods I’ll be on my best Sunday behavior and I ask the same from my rivals...I want to remove the emotion from the debate and discuss this dispassionately, so no personal attacks, namecalling, and no “NSA shill”-this, or “emoprog”-that...

2. FULL, REASONED RESPONSES ONLY -- No dismissive responses, no one-line responses, no emoticon responses...If your argument isn’t properly backed with links or other cited sources, I will disregard it...

Your participation in this thread is considered an acceptance of these ground rules...If the level of discourse deteriorates, I’ll ask the mods for the lock...


EDIT 20 APR 2015, 1753 HRS: Seems like I'm getting way too much confusion, snark and negativity for trying to hold an adult conversation on the subject...Perhaps I failed to properly explain myself. I'm doing this because 1. A DUer challenged me on repeated occasions to do so, 2. For research purposes, I want to have all my Snowald discussions in one place instead of jumping from thread to thread and searching the archives all the time for my old posts, and 3. Instead of the usual flames, insults and shit-flinging both sides have endured, I thought DU could benefit from a proper, civil discussion like we used to have in the old days...Even now, I've been calm, controlled, polite the entire time and will remain so as long as this thread is active...This thread has become a place of peace for me, so why can't it be for the rest of you??

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You drunk? joshcryer Apr 2015 #1
No sir, I do not partake in alcohol. Blue_Tires Apr 2015 #3
Well good luck. joshcryer Apr 2015 #5
Thank you and good-bye... Blue_Tires Apr 2015 #20
Oh well, no one's perfect. FSogol Apr 2015 #21
.. AuntPatsy Apr 2015 #4
Question #1 Blue_Tires Apr 2015 #2
. ? Can you be a bit more specific, AuntPatsy Apr 2015 #6
I can't take your challenge seriously if you are going to use.. grasswire Apr 2015 #7
The SCMP was one of the first papers Snowden went to Blue_Tires Apr 2015 #16
Hundreds Of US Security Clearance Records Are Falsified, Federal Cases Show Agnosticsherbet Apr 2015 #8
Thank you for a proper and serious response Blue_Tires Apr 2015 #23
I prefer to think people want informed comments rather than snark. Agnosticsherbet Apr 2015 #27
My son's military clearance was done by the FBI 4-5 years ago Marrah_G Apr 2015 #28
Your son was in the military, not working for one of sevearl thousand corporations that work in Agnosticsherbet Apr 2015 #32
Contract house just wants warm bodies - they aren't going to be too picky about accuracy of resume. goldent Apr 2015 #9
From what I understand... cwydro Apr 2015 #12
This one seems easy enough. Orsino Apr 2015 #15
Agnosticsherbet pretty much answered my question Blue_Tires Apr 2015 #24
Don't know the answer to that treestar Apr 2015 #52
Outcome 4: trash thread. n/t winter is coming Apr 2015 #10
Indeed! eom Purveyor Apr 2015 #11
Thank you for participating, good-bye... Blue_Tires Apr 2015 #19
Thank you for participating, good-bye... Blue_Tires Apr 2015 #18
Why do we park in the driveway, but drive on the parkway? Warren DeMontague Apr 2015 #13
Why do we cook bacon and bake cookies? FSogol Apr 2015 #22
Why does my nose run while my feet smell? MineralMan Apr 2015 #26
And there, I left all those pumpkins out Warren DeMontague Apr 2015 #35
You're assuming we care what you think. bemildred Apr 2015 #14
I was simply responding to a challenge from another DUer: Blue_Tires Apr 2015 #17
Still trying to force people to follow your will? MineralMan Apr 2015 #25
As a grown up, I am not here to bend people to my will, keep notes or force people to flee. ScreamingMeemie Apr 2015 #29
Just trying to keep the level of dialogue above board Blue_Tires Apr 2015 #38
Maybe indicating "shut the fuck up" in the subject line is an example of things not being DisgustipatedinCA Apr 2015 #41
Very well, I've since edited the thread title Blue_Tires Apr 2015 #46
Thank you. nt DisgustipatedinCA Apr 2015 #49
What a bizarre OP. Marrah_G Apr 2015 #30
I'll go with the STFU option. demmiblue Apr 2015 #31
Thank you for participating, good-bye... Blue_Tires Apr 2015 #37
hmmm Trajan Apr 2015 #33
Bad news...nobody cares what you do, if you stay or go...so what? Rex Apr 2015 #34
Thank you for participating, good-bye... Blue_Tires Apr 2015 #36
At least you didn't start this OP in hopes of dividing up DUers! Rex Apr 2015 #43
Did you see this post from last week? I think it explains a lot. neverforget Apr 2015 #60
QUESTION #2: Blue_Tires Apr 2015 #39
He does not want us to know treestar Apr 2015 #53
QUESTION #3: Blue_Tires Apr 2015 #40
Supposing I don't have an answer, what does this indicate to you? DisgustipatedinCA Apr 2015 #45
My reason for re-asking is because Blue_Tires Apr 2015 #47
Again, thanks. DisgustipatedinCA Apr 2015 #50
Maybe he is working for FSB. treestar Apr 2015 #54
LOL!! I thought this was going to be a HRC or else thread! LOL! 2banon Apr 2015 #42
LOL! Rex Apr 2015 #44
What is your name? edhopper Apr 2015 #48
Scott...Pleased to meet you, Ed... Blue_Tires Apr 2015 #51
What is your quest? edhopper Apr 2015 #55
<snort> truebluegreen Apr 2015 #56
Can't wait to ask my third question. edhopper Apr 2015 #57
What is your favorite color? truebluegreen Apr 2015 #61
No edhopper Apr 2015 #63
I don't have any links to explain why I admire nilesobek Apr 2015 #58
But in reality, you've already won, and it's clear you're aware of this. DisgustipatedinCA Apr 2015 #59
My intention was never to "win", I just want to separate the wheat from the chaff Blue_Tires Apr 2015 #65
I don't think you're wrong. nilesobek Apr 2015 #67
IMO, Snowden is Oswald 2.0 just another asshole who will end up shot in a parking garage CK_John Apr 2015 #62
QUESTION #4 Blue_Tires Apr 2015 #64
No takers for Question #4?? Blue_Tires Apr 2015 #66
Question #5 Blue_Tires Apr 2015 #68
QUESTION #6 (multi-part) Blue_Tires Apr 2015 #69
Question #7 Blue_Tires Apr 2015 #70
Question #8 Blue_Tires May 2015 #71
Question #9 Blue_Tires May 2015 #72
Why is Snowden the issue? BainsBane May 2015 #73
Everyone has been telling me I'm wrong all this time Blue_Tires May 2015 #74
Typical, isn't it? BainsBane May 2015 #75
All your questions are answered by I don't care, I don't know and don't know why I would, and TheKentuckian May 2015 #76
So you're 100% fine with all the leaks that have nothing to do with civil liberties? Blue_Tires May 2015 #77
Yup and sometimes. TheKentuckian May 2015 #78
Thank you for being straight and upfront Blue_Tires May 2015 #79
Your favorite unanswered questions? Why do you feel that anyone Autumn May 2015 #80
Once again, Blue_Tires May 2015 #81
Once again. You know the answers to your questions. If you want all of Autumn May 2015 #82
I've been pulling more than my own weight in this discussion Blue_Tires May 2015 #84
Question #10 Blue_Tires May 2015 #83
Question #11 Blue_Tires May 2015 #85
Guess I'll declare myself winner by default, then... Blue_Tires Jun 2015 #86
Even after all this time, nobody wants a piece of this Blue_Tires Oct 2015 #87
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