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cherokeeprogressive

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207. That's a perfectly sound either/or, black and white, binary way of looking at it.

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Tue Apr 14, 2015, 07:57 PM

Apr 2015

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To the Haters it's going right---to the supporters it's moving forward. [View all] trumad Apr 2015 OP

Sometimes, one merely comments without being a "hater." ScreamingMeemie Apr 2015 #1

Agree.. trumad Apr 2015 #2

Not really. The comment I made in Skinner's thread was sincerely how I felt about it. ScreamingMeemie Apr 2015 #5

I think the OP was referring to the people... one_voice Apr 2015 #126

Respectfully, that isn't what the OP said though. ScreamingMeemie Apr 2015 #133

sad roguevalley Apr 2015 #82

trumad, I'm not judging you for being a hater. You're human and have your feelings. I just hope DesertDiamond Apr 2015 #101

It's the irrational dialog that I hate. trumad Apr 2015 #124

That twin towers stuff is LiberalElite Apr 2015 #182

lump? trumad Apr 2015 #183

it is funny though how you can predict treestar Apr 2015 #113

In all honesty, with the exception of a few very boisterous posters, I've never ScreamingMeemie Apr 2015 #116

...^ that 840high Apr 2015 #134

Nice. peacebird Apr 2015 #3

No shit. joshcryer Apr 2015 #4

Sometimes, all you can do, Trumad, is CONSIDER THE SOURCE. MADem Apr 2015 #6

War Is Peace billhicks76 Apr 2015 #39

Pretty full bed, huh. Thinkingabout Apr 2015 #103

The Creative Speculation forum is that-a-way... MADem Apr 2015 #122

Know what I hate? The term "Hater." WilliamPitt Apr 2015 #7

We are all haters if we refuse to get on the Kelvin Mace Apr 2015 #17

And her husband is good buds with the Bushes Art_from_Ark Apr 2015 #47

Nailed it. nt City Lights Apr 2015 #68

No you're just a skinkin Pat's fan. trumad Apr 2015 #41

he barbecues bare footed? awoke_in_2003 Apr 2015 #53

It's a shortcut treestar Apr 2015 #115

DU is all black-and-white now. Nobody is capable of grey thinking anymore. arcane1 Apr 2015 #136

I don't dislike her LOGO I find it honest, I like honesty Dragonfli Apr 2015 #150

You're culturally restricted. Major Hogwash Apr 2015 #147

I think I said pretty much the exact same thing, in this post: Warren DeMontague Apr 2015 #8

Sorry Walt---didn't see your excellent post. trumad Apr 2015 #42

The arrow is RED Kelvin Mace Apr 2015 #9

Yes, The arrow is Red. And the H is blue. Warren DeMontague Apr 2015 #10

The Democratic Party has been moving to the right Kelvin Mace Apr 2015 #15

The TIA people were fucking with you on purpose, I suspect. Warren DeMontague Apr 2015 #19

this is on the order of the crazy libertarians treestar Apr 2015 #118

Um, no Kelvin Mace Apr 2015 #125

Well it seems equivalent to me treestar Apr 2015 #161

Huh, what? AgingAmerican Apr 2015 #129

here is some of that lunacy treestar Apr 2015 #162

Red arrow pointing right LOL dear god NoJusticeNoPeace Apr 2015 #201

Notice hoe Obamas logo is the most inclusive and the best one there? Autumn Apr 2015 #66

Wanna guess what color the Democrats were in the 1980 race? brooklynite Apr 2015 #13

Red has been the color of GOP extremism since the 2000 election Kelvin Mace Apr 2015 #20

Or, choice #3...nobody cares brooklynite Apr 2015 #22

Yep, the HRC campaign Kelvin Mace Apr 2015 #28

You know that the entire liberal wing is as offended as you are? brooklynite Apr 2015 #37

I define liberal Kelvin Mace Apr 2015 #43

If you are Hillary and YOU are the H, then for you, the arrow points left. Warren DeMontague Apr 2015 #23

Is she talking to herself Kelvin Mace Apr 2015 #33

No, it's just been a shorthand used on the map to designate conservative and liberal states. pnwmom Apr 2015 #180

The logo is red, white and blue. NuclearDem Apr 2015 #18

The RED arrow Kelvin Mace Apr 2015 #26

Yes, in the direction that most people without an agenda would recognize as "forward." NuclearDem Apr 2015 #27

Yeah, HRC Kelvin Mace Apr 2015 #30

Whatever her policies, you're dead wrong about the meaning of the logo. NuclearDem Apr 2015 #35

You cannot be wrong about your own perceptions. zeemike Apr 2015 #63

The logo looks like a jet going through the twin towers. NuclearDem Apr 2015 #71

Is that your perception of it? zeemike Apr 2015 #75

Right is the new forward? AgingAmerican Apr 2015 #95

Yes. We read left to right. In Israel it may be different I guess. whatthehey Apr 2015 #106

Boustrophedonic rights for all! muriel_volestrangler Apr 2015 #123

I see no correlation whatsoever between reading AgingAmerican Apr 2015 #128

Look at the top of your web browser. <-- back forward --> emulatorloo Apr 2015 #153

Well then Hillary better go on TV quick and explain it AgingAmerican Apr 2015 #188

may be tough for you to play the video clip emulatorloo Apr 2015 #190

So she is using the logic of a VCR? AgingAmerican Apr 2015 #191

Have you not seen a video clip on the web yet? emulatorloo Apr 2015 #193

So now she is channeling youtube? AgingAmerican Apr 2015 #194

I'm responding to your "VCR" snark emulatorloo Apr 2015 #195

My and many others first thought upon seeing it AgingAmerican Apr 2015 #199

This is what's called a timeline: NuclearDem Apr 2015 #141

And this is an arrow pointing forward AgingAmerican Apr 2015 #142

Three dimensionally, yes. NuclearDem Apr 2015 #144

It's pointing up. n/t pnwmom Apr 2015 #187

The Communist Red arrow points straight at Hillary. pnwmom Apr 2015 #186

Red is the color of Communism! JaneyVee Apr 2015 #55

Since the stolen election of 2000 Kelvin Mace Apr 2015 #65

I freakin' hate the whole color tribalism Blue_Adept Apr 2015 #81

Well, here's the thing... Kelvin Mace Apr 2015 #130

You want us to believe the logo alone is swaying your vote? Seriously- bettyellen Apr 2015 #164

Certainly not Kelvin Mace Apr 2015 #170

Ah, so it's really really significant to people who already hate her, lol. bettyellen Apr 2015 #171

Refusing to vote for someone Kelvin Mace Apr 2015 #172

Offended at a stupid red white and blue logo as if it's truly significant- bettyellen Apr 2015 #173

Again, she has been paid millions by Wall Street Kelvin Mace Apr 2015 #174

Yes. tavernier Apr 2015 #108

Red is also the color of communism treestar Apr 2015 #117

Seriously? Since when is red the color of conservatism? Guess you've forgotten about Red China. pnwmom Apr 2015 #179

everyone knows what the stakes are asiliveandbreathe Apr 2015 #11

People who are opposed to a politician, LWolf Apr 2015 #12

+1 Obviously. tridim Apr 2015 #25

Your rationality has no place here! This is Hyperbole Underground! arcane1 Apr 2015 #138

lol LWolf Apr 2015 #175

Then wikileaks is "going right", too Cha Apr 2015 #14

its where many of the Griefers come from! VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #16

The right hates Hillary. The fringe left hates Hillary... SidDithers Apr 2015 #21

And those that love Hillary hate anyone who does not. zeemike Apr 2015 #67

... SidDithers Apr 2015 #72

... zeemike Apr 2015 #79

meh. her logo could be puppies curing childhood cancer and people who dislike her would hate it. PeaceNikki Apr 2015 #24

Has she cured childhood cancer? Katashi_itto Apr 2015 #77

The logo is mystifying Cosmocat Apr 2015 #85

Keep telling yourself that AgingAmerican Apr 2015 #97

*snort* PeaceNikki Apr 2015 #100

I agree - we should focus on HRC's wall street worship before we get hung up on design. el_bryanto Apr 2015 #29

Your post says only one thing: you hate leveymg Apr 2015 #31

I think you are projecting what I think,,, trumad Apr 2015 #52

This isn't a game of ping-pong leveymg Apr 2015 #73

it is Eurocentric to see right as moving forward Enrique Apr 2015 #32

oh really - are number-lines and time-lines Eurocentric exclusively? DrDan Apr 2015 #38

Attention artists & those sensitive to visual symbols and subliminal PR messages! Pooka Fey Apr 2015 #34

why did you capitalize "Haters" and not "supporters"? What kind of subliminal message are you DrDan Apr 2015 #36

I don't know... trumad Apr 2015 #50

you meant the mindless adorers, right? Hey, gonna call people haters? cali Apr 2015 #40

Come on Cali.... trumad Apr 2015 #49

I don't recall ever calling people "haters". EVER. cali Apr 2015 #54

You literally just called them mindless adorers. JaneyVee Apr 2015 #56

She typed that in invisible ink. You weren't supposed to see that until you rubbed lemon juice Number23 Apr 2015 #181

Cali---Cali---Cali--- trumad Apr 2015 #60

Yawn Capt. Obvious Apr 2015 #44

Hey that's my word! trumad Apr 2015 #45

Hatin' on Hillary or President Obama is someone who never acknowledges any accomplishments Cha Apr 2015 #46

I swear, when it comes to the Clintons... NYC Liberal Apr 2015 #48

Sickening isn't it? workinclasszero Apr 2015 #58

In western culture, a right-facing arrow means moving forward. riqster Apr 2015 #51

Good one, riqster.. Cha Apr 2015 #57

Correct... trumad Apr 2015 #61

Well it does now that you constructed it. zeemike Apr 2015 #70

It also can be found elsewhere in our history. riqster Apr 2015 #87

It is not an outlier in our culture. zeemike Apr 2015 #90

The complaint is that an arrow pointing rightwards = moving to conservativism. riqster Apr 2015 #110

Can you put a meaning to these graphics? muriel_volestrangler Apr 2015 #96

Apparently semiotics only refers to political direction whatthehey Apr 2015 #109

Dammit. All those decades in recording studios pushing those two buttons. riqster Apr 2015 #114

fast forward is doubleplus fascist, I guess (nt) muriel_volestrangler Apr 2015 #119

Fast Forward, Forward and Reverse. riqster Apr 2015 #111

What is your source for this AgingAmerican Apr 2015 #131

Not too hard to answer: riqster Apr 2015 #140

I don't agree with Hillary on a number of issues. Adrahil Apr 2015 #59

when i first saw the damn logo i thought move right-if that makes me a hater guess that is fine with dembotoz Apr 2015 #62

With all the serious issues facing America why worry about a brand? gordianot Apr 2015 #64

Are you trying to start something? Caretha Apr 2015 #69

Start? (nt) jeff47 Apr 2015 #78

It's called "childish name-calling for the sole purpose of stifling different opinions" arcane1 Apr 2015 #139

my my, accusations that are "Fox-worthy" stupidicus Apr 2015 #74

So when I point out Hillary's support for GMO's... SHRED Apr 2015 #76

Correct! peace13 Apr 2015 #89

DU rec for pissing off all the right people... SidDithers Apr 2015 #80

just because one pisses on another stupidicus Apr 2015 #105

I find the logo to be quite representative of the campaign. Jester Messiah Apr 2015 #83

This is going to be a long season.... onecaliberal Apr 2015 #84

I think it looks like a big red penis. Not that I object to that sort of thing, mind you. nt msanthrope Apr 2015 #86

Sounds like Junior High lunch room to me. Ford_Prefect Apr 2015 #88

Well put Trumad. Thank you. (nt) Paladin Apr 2015 #91

It does point to the right AgingAmerican Apr 2015 #92

You don't gotta hate to be a movie critic.. ProudProg2u Apr 2015 #93

DU is definitely having a moment. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #94

Hillary aint no Progressive Cryptoad Apr 2015 #98

trumad, may I invite you to a respectful dialogue, in which we may or may not end up agreeing? DesertDiamond Apr 2015 #99

Actually in science when an arrow, or vector points from left to right it usually means a forward still_one Apr 2015 #102

Ever onward, I don't care for R which also means reverse. Thinkingabout Apr 2015 #104

The arrow is pointing to the figure's left rock Apr 2015 #107

agreed treestar Apr 2015 #112

and to some its simply another reason madokie Apr 2015 #120

This kerfuffle over Hillary's logo is one of the funnier things I've seen here. Sheldon Cooper Apr 2015 #121

I just hate poor graphic design. Throd Apr 2015 #127

Glad to know I'm not the only Poli. Comm. nerd. Chan790 Apr 2015 #159

Chuckling. I wonder where those of us who could not give a rip nadinbrzezinski Apr 2015 #132

Those of you in California can print out huge copies of her logo and turn into signs. Major Hogwash Apr 2015 #148

Trust me, we will nadinbrzezinski Apr 2015 #149

I'm serious about the drought in California. Major Hogwash Apr 2015 #151

I know about the drought nadinbrzezinski Apr 2015 #155

I miss E.Ferrari, too. Major Hogwash Apr 2015 #158

We will try nadinbrzezinski Apr 2015 #160

My opposition to HRC is reasoned. mmonk Apr 2015 #135

What if I merely think it's uninspired graphic design? Chan790 Apr 2015 #137

Kick & recommended. William769 Apr 2015 #143

I second the nuff. Scurrilous Apr 2015 #145

The depth of my not giving a shit is endless. AtomicKitten Apr 2015 #146

It's no big deal. Major Hogwash Apr 2015 #154

*snort* AtomicKitten Apr 2015 #157

Actually, if the H represents Hillary randr Apr 2015 #152

I don't dislike her LOGO I find it honest, I like honesty Dragonfli Apr 2015 #156

I agree with your point ... NanceGreggs Apr 2015 #163

well someone posted an Op yesterday.. trumad Apr 2015 #165

Well, I was prepared for the usual "silly season" here ... NanceGreggs Apr 2015 #167

and I actually learned from one DUer... trumad Apr 2015 #168

... NanceGreggs Apr 2015 #189

It's a blue H with a red arrow, on top, pointing to the right!!! Rex Apr 2015 #198

How about those of us that are basicaly indifferent to this nonsense? 99Forever Apr 2015 #166

LOL! Rex Apr 2015 #169

On a numbrer line it is postive change. Agnosticsherbet Apr 2015 #176

Still looks backward to me daredtowork Apr 2015 #177

yes! Liberal_in_LA Apr 2015 #178

Big minds talk issues. Little minds talk personality eridani Apr 2015 #184

Yep---and irrational D-Word who spout right wing bullshit. trumad Apr 2015 #196

Rightwingers hate TPP, Keystone XL and the Iraq war? Since when? n/t eridani Apr 2015 #197

Really? realFedUp Apr 2015 #185

So if the arrow points to the right AgingAmerican Apr 2015 #192

Fascinating. More insults directed at the base from the "defenders" of corporate Democrats. woo me with science Apr 2015 #200

+1000 MissDeeds Apr 2015 #202

Yawn.. trumad Apr 2015 #204

Lack of oxygen ? orpupilofnature57 Apr 2015 #206

+ 1000 !!! orpupilofnature57 Apr 2015 #205

Oh good, more of your "secret plots" and conspiracy theories. emulatorloo Apr 2015 #208

Who needs to discredit who ? wheres the arrow point on Whistle Blowers ? orpupilofnature57 Apr 2015 #203

That's a perfectly sound either/or, black and white, binary way of looking at it. cherokeeprogressive Apr 2015 #207

Isn't the bigger issue the general lameness of it? I hope not much of a check was written for the TheKentuckian Apr 2015 #209