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In reply to the discussion: To the Haters it's going right---to the supporters it's moving forward. [View all]woo me with science
(32,139 posts)200. Fascinating. More insults directed at the base from the "defenders" of corporate Democrats.
From the DCCC "Accept Doom" email campaign of the midterms, to the relentless stream of deliberately baiting and insulting messaging like this, I don't think we have *ever* seen such a transparent and relentless campaign by corporate politicians and their mouthpieces to depress Democratic enthusiasm for the party and suppress Democratic turnout.
Corporate politicians want a Republican in next time. It is becoming increasingly clear that the plan of corporatists in both parties is for Hillary to lose. This is why:
IMO we're being set up for a Republican win by both sides.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=6229978
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Corporatists on both sides are working hard to set the stage to elect a Republican next time, because eight years of corporate Democratic rule have opened too many eyes to the fact that the predatory corporate agenda continues no matter which party is elected. That awareness is dangerous for the PTB.
They NEED to alienate the base and get a Republican in office for awhile so that corporate Democrats can pretend to be against corporate/warmongering/police state policies again. They hope that the country will forget all this silly talk about oligarchy and go back to believing that the only thing wrong in Washington is that a Republican is in office and we need to rally to get the Third Way Democrats back in again.
They are TRYING to demoralize and alienate the base. We saw it in the DCCC "Accept Doom" email campaign. We see it in the gratuitous attacks on traditional Democrats every single day by supposed Hillary supporters. Corporatists in both parties are doing everything possible to enable a Republican win....The truth is that we live in a post-partisan, united oligarchy now, not a democracy...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=6229978
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Corporatists on both sides are working hard to set the stage to elect a Republican next time, because eight years of corporate Democratic rule have opened too many eyes to the fact that the predatory corporate agenda continues no matter which party is elected. That awareness is dangerous for the PTB.
They NEED to alienate the base and get a Republican in office for awhile so that corporate Democrats can pretend to be against corporate/warmongering/police state policies again. They hope that the country will forget all this silly talk about oligarchy and go back to believing that the only thing wrong in Washington is that a Republican is in office and we need to rally to get the Third Way Democrats back in again.
They are TRYING to demoralize and alienate the base. We saw it in the DCCC "Accept Doom" email campaign. We see it in the gratuitous attacks on traditional Democrats every single day by supposed Hillary supporters. Corporatists in both parties are doing everything possible to enable a Republican win....The truth is that we live in a post-partisan, united oligarchy now, not a democracy...
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[font size=3]We misunderstand our corporate politicians in 2015 when we assume that their goal is always to win. That was the old system, democracy. In the new system, oligarchy, the goal is to use the two parties you own in whatever way will best protect and advance the corporate agenda. [/font size]
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Red vs. Blue = Oligarchy Theater for the masses.
Mass spying on Americans? Both parties support it.
Handing the internet to corporations? Both parties support it.
Austerity for the masses? Both parties support it.
Cutting social safety nets? Both parties support it.
Corporatists in the cabinet? Both parties support it.
Tolling our interstate highways? Both parties support it.
Corporate education policy? Both parties support it.
Bank bailouts? Both parties support it.
Ignoring the trillions stashed overseas? Both parties support it.
Trans-Pacific Job/Wage Killing Secret Agreement? Both parties support it.
TISA corporate overlord agreement? Both parties support it.
Drilling and fracking? Both parties support it.
Wars on medical marijuana instead of corrupt banks? Both parties support it.
Deregulation of the food industry? Both parties support it.
GMO's? Both parties support it.
Privatization of the TVA? Both parties support it.
Immunity for telecoms? Both parties support it.
"Looking forward" and letting war criminals off the hook? Both parties support it.
Deciding torturers are patriots? Both parties support it.
Militarized police and assaults on protesters? Both parties support it.
Indefinite detention? Both parties support it.
Drone wars and kill lists? Both parties support it.
Targeting of journalists and whistleblowers? Both parties support it.
Private prisons replacing public prisons? Both parties support it.
Unions? Both parties view them with contempt.
Trillion dollar increase in nuclear weapons. Both parties support it.
New war in Iraq. Both parties support it.
New war in Syria. Both parties support it.
Carpet bombing of captive population in Gaza. Both parties support it.
Selling off swaths of the Gulf of Mexico for drilling? Both parties support it.
Drilling along the Atlantic Coast? Both parties support it.
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To the Haters it's going right---to the supporters it's moving forward. [View all]
trumad
Apr 2015
OP
Not really. The comment I made in Skinner's thread was sincerely how I felt about it.
ScreamingMeemie
Apr 2015
#5
trumad, I'm not judging you for being a hater. You're human and have your feelings. I just hope
DesertDiamond
Apr 2015
#101
In all honesty, with the exception of a few very boisterous posters, I've never
ScreamingMeemie
Apr 2015
#116
If you are Hillary and YOU are the H, then for you, the arrow points left.
Warren DeMontague
Apr 2015
#23
No, it's just been a shorthand used on the map to designate conservative and liberal states.
pnwmom
Apr 2015
#180
Yes, in the direction that most people without an agenda would recognize as "forward."
NuclearDem
Apr 2015
#27
Seriously? Since when is red the color of conservatism? Guess you've forgotten about Red China.
pnwmom
Apr 2015
#179
meh. her logo could be puppies curing childhood cancer and people who dislike her would hate it.
PeaceNikki
Apr 2015
#24
I agree - we should focus on HRC's wall street worship before we get hung up on design.
el_bryanto
Apr 2015
#29
Attention artists & those sensitive to visual symbols and subliminal PR messages!
Pooka Fey
Apr 2015
#34
why did you capitalize "Haters" and not "supporters"? What kind of subliminal message are you
DrDan
Apr 2015
#36
She typed that in invisible ink. You weren't supposed to see that until you rubbed lemon juice
Number23
Apr 2015
#181
Hatin' on Hillary or President Obama is someone who never acknowledges any accomplishments
Cha
Apr 2015
#46
The complaint is that an arrow pointing rightwards = moving to conservativism.
riqster
Apr 2015
#110
when i first saw the damn logo i thought move right-if that makes me a hater guess that is fine with
dembotoz
Apr 2015
#62
It's called "childish name-calling for the sole purpose of stifling different opinions"
arcane1
Apr 2015
#139
I think it looks like a big red penis. Not that I object to that sort of thing, mind you. nt
msanthrope
Apr 2015
#86
trumad, may I invite you to a respectful dialogue, in which we may or may not end up agreeing?
DesertDiamond
Apr 2015
#99
Actually in science when an arrow, or vector points from left to right it usually means a forward
still_one
Apr 2015
#102
This kerfuffle over Hillary's logo is one of the funnier things I've seen here.
Sheldon Cooper
Apr 2015
#121
Those of you in California can print out huge copies of her logo and turn into signs.
Major Hogwash
Apr 2015
#148
Fascinating. More insults directed at the base from the "defenders" of corporate Democrats.
woo me with science
Apr 2015
#200
Who needs to discredit who ? wheres the arrow point on Whistle Blowers ?
orpupilofnature57
Apr 2015
#203
That's a perfectly sound either/or, black and white, binary way of looking at it.
cherokeeprogressive
Apr 2015
#207
Isn't the bigger issue the general lameness of it? I hope not much of a check was written for the
TheKentuckian
Apr 2015
#209