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In reply to the discussion: Bill Maher is really turning into a vile racist [View all]MADem
(135,425 posts)43. Scootaloo is in error. He confuses culture and ethnicity with race.
Hispanic isn't a race, either. Pope Francis, David Ortiz and Alberto Fujimori are all "Hispanic"--but that's because they've been raised in a particular cultural milieu, not because they're the same color or share any particulars of appearance.
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One cannot be 'racist' against Islam (or any other religion) as Islam is not a race. Bigoted,
kelly1mm
Apr 2015
#9
Perhaps if the poster would have used the correct term so many of the posters in this thread
kelly1mm
Apr 2015
#31
Only in America, and even then the overwhelming majority stick with their inherited religion
Hekate
Apr 2015
#32
Yes but Muslim is not a race, it is a religion chosen by people of all races, Muslims are not all
Bluenorthwest
Apr 2015
#181
I am prettty sure he has bad feelings about any muslims, or at least extreamist muslims of
kelly1mm
Apr 2015
#157
What makes you pretty sure of that? Have you heard him discuss any group but Muslims who are Arabs
merrily
Apr 2015
#162
Yes. Specifically Indian muslims in terroist attacks in Mumbai and Nigerian muslims that took
kelly1mm
Apr 2015
#166
Mexican is not a race. Mexican refers to a person from Mexico and/or with Mexican
kelly1mm
Apr 2015
#169
It's called a nationality. Just like there is no Canadian or Jamaican race. This "didn’t just
Guy Whitey Corngood
Apr 2015
#194
It's not on the Internet. I grew up in Puerto Rico and we were taught about nationalities and races.
Guy Whitey Corngood
Apr 2015
#210
Arabs often refer to themselves as a race. I'm not inclined to tell them they're wrong
Scootaloo
Apr 2015
#40
What? You should think about deleting THAT post--that's a nasty call out, and there's nothing in
MADem
Apr 2015
#48
You don't challenge her in the context of the comments. You ignore her remarks about the
MADem
Apr 2015
#63
DNA will tell you very clearly where you're from, and the percentages of your heritage.
MADem
Apr 2015
#75
You didn't tear a hole in anything except your own sad insistence, despite Arabs telling you
MADem
Apr 2015
#95
Yeah, sure they have. Arab is not a race--go read that link by Arabs telling you so. nt
MADem
Apr 2015
#131
A ten year old article about billboards that showed racist pictures of Arabs doesn't really
MADem
Apr 2015
#108
I see. So you've decided to annul the entire point of your argument starting from Post #26
Scootaloo
Apr 2015
#123
Arabs have also told me otherwise, and you are not worth anything as a tie-breaker
Scootaloo
Apr 2015
#133
So why, if people get to decide what they are, doesn't everybody put "African American" on their
MADem
Apr 2015
#134
Keep digging that hole--now we're on to "brainless?" What other insults can you come up with?
MADem
Apr 2015
#170
Why did you, in #26, leap on the use in #3 of 'racist' to refer to Islam, then?
muriel_volestrangler
Apr 2015
#151
Yes, your views are *inconsistent* - I read them, and am now pointing out to you
muriel_volestrangler
Apr 2015
#186
Ignore is your friend--use it.Since this is not your thread, your nannying is inappropriate at best.
MADem
Apr 2015
#190
It's not your thread, either. So your nannying in #26 was inappropriate at best
muriel_volestrangler
Apr 2015
#199
People who are "America-centric" can't believe that there are other places in the world that are
MADem
Apr 2015
#361
If you aren't taking the rather basic point, I'm sorry that I can't help you further. nt
MADem
Apr 2015
#209
Yes, those whites can now ask for minority diversity consideration on their college applications
MADem
Apr 2015
#313
No, it was intended as a reply to your post, averring a "cultural" imperative to the matter under
MADem
Apr 2015
#320
Why should anyone drag old shit over here, instead of confronting it in the thread?
MADem
Apr 2015
#124
Well, this thread is about what a "racist" Bill Maher is because he had a spirited conversation
MADem
Apr 2015
#142
Sometimes when it's obvious bigotry, I don't bother asking what they mean...
Violet_Crumble
Apr 2015
#156
Because you don't hire people you hate, and you don't work w/them on projects, certainly.
MADem
Apr 2015
#289
No, I'm telling you that you don't get to tell other people what they are and are not
Scootaloo
Apr 2015
#53
What's a struggle is encountering someone with such antiquated views on race and ethnicity in the
MADem
Apr 2015
#62
Like you dictate to Arabs--even after they tell you "Arab is not a race" -- that Arab is a race?
MADem
Apr 2015
#100
People DO get to choose their gender identity. They don't get to choose their race.
MADem
Apr 2015
#132
I don't know th an american organization founded by an American politician gets to determine what an
merrily
Apr 2015
#160
Plenty of references to "Semitic race" existed anyway, and were intended to encompass
merrily
Apr 2015
#177
That was a misuse of the term; I believe it originated in (not Jew-friendly) Germany.
MADem
Apr 2015
#188
The idea that MADem does not get to determine someone's identity for them is not false
Scootaloo
Apr 2015
#129
In my experience he would identify himself as an "arab", not "black" or African".
CJCRANE
Apr 2015
#293
Yes, I do get to tell people that. Because they are not a race, any more than Hispanics or
MADem
Apr 2015
#60
The American Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee has a problem with your assertion.
MADem
Apr 2015
#82
"Arab is NOT a race." Good grief, even when Arabs concerned with the way people discriminate
MADem
Apr 2015
#89
Because "Scootaloo" is going to dictate to Arabs all about their culture and heritage.
MADem
Apr 2015
#96
Yeah, it IS up to the American Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee. They've tried to tell you
MADem
Apr 2015
#103
According to fundamentalists, yes--because his father would not be viewed as an atheist.
MADem
Apr 2015
#282
I love Chris Rock, who like Maher is a comic. Chris, who is not a bigot, does in fact use the word
Bluenorthwest
Apr 2015
#196
Excuse me, I did not sugest you were trying to censor anyone, that's uncalled for bullshit.
Bluenorthwest
Apr 2015
#238
You introduced Sterling into this conversation--a man who doesn't have a talk show and, near as any
MADem
Apr 2015
#325
He said nothing racist--"Islam" is not a race. It's a religion practiced by people of all races.
MADem
Apr 2015
#332
This isn't about me, and no, I don't "work for Maher." What a foolish assumption.
MADem
Apr 2015
#345
I have no idea why you "should" do anything--and you disproved nothing! Buh-bye! nt
MADem
Apr 2015
#374
I used to think he hated all religion equally but he is definitely an Islamaphobe.
hrmjustin
Apr 2015
#18
Bill Maher's shtick is getting old. As for Fareed Z, he is an intelligent and thoughtful man....
Hekate
Apr 2015
#33
Joel, YOU WON THIS THREAD! It was funny for a bit, then it revealed a saddening reality. nt
TheBlackAdder
Apr 2015
#200
A bigot is someone who hates a person because of something intrinsic to that person
kcr
Apr 2015
#212
Bingo. It's amazing how people will twist and turn to make this something sinister.
arcane1
Apr 2015
#253
Bill Maher used to be an entertainer. He's no longer entertaining. The end. (nt)
Paladin
Apr 2015
#165
You better tell that to the swiftly sold out concert hall full of people coming to see him this week
Bluenorthwest
Apr 2015
#198
Of course I respect your personal taste and nothing I said suggested otherwise. You did not
Bluenorthwest
Apr 2015
#226
Where is the judgement? I'm asking you what comics you find funny. You have no respect for me
Bluenorthwest
Apr 2015
#234
Wow. There was no discussion to end, just you pontificating and making personal attacks at me.
Bluenorthwest
Apr 2015
#240
Bills audience will certainly let you know whose side they're on by the applause.
Stellar
Apr 2015
#174
My gawd, what a stupid thread. Who gives a shit, anyway? Wasting all this time and energy
ChisolmTrailDem
Apr 2015
#237
Zakaria is a conservative. It's unusal to see a Union avatar endorsing his Union busting ass.
Bluenorthwest
Apr 2015
#242
Hey, Straight Person, the 'semantics' of that which is a choice and that which is an inborn
Bluenorthwest
Apr 2015
#308
No, he's not. Fareed Zakaria was saying it's Bill's job to change the minds of people about Muslims
beaglelover
Apr 2015
#307
Ha ha ha --Cap "If they nail me, I'm taking ALL OF YOU BASTARDS DOWN WITH ME" Weinberger!!!!
MADem
Apr 2015
#339
Why are you so afraid of Bill Maher that you have to make up crap about him? Is
B Calm
Apr 2015
#353
So what else is new? BM has been showin his true racist colors for a while now.
InAbLuEsTaTe
Apr 2015
#376