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In reply to the discussion: What If A Collapse Happened And Nobody Noticed? [View all]GliderGuider
(21,088 posts)80. No question this is far bigger than the past problems we've created.
And there is no question (for me at least) that when this cycle of civilization bottoms out, what can be rebuilt in the next will be much, much, much smaller because of the permanently destructive effects of our overshoot this time around.
The question for me is how do I, as a single human being, respond to that awareness?
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In all fairness.. Russian history gives Russians little incentive for cheerfulness..
Fumesucker
May 2012
#12
The birth rate in the US at least should be reflecting the aging of the baby boomers. They did not
jwirr
May 2012
#39
We are doing that - hoping when they see what we are doing they will follow. So far they think it
jwirr
May 2012
#54
It's falling as women get empowered--I think it's the opposite of collapse--it's the emergence of
diane in sf
May 2012
#56
Efficiency is but a secondary effect, the primary cause is greed and profit..
Fumesucker
May 2012
#14
Yes, in some ways, it's a privilege to be able to witness this period in human history.
bemildred
May 2012
#73
In looking for the underlying cause of greed do not underestimate fear. But I do not see greed as
jwirr
May 2012
#41
Yeah, when the infrastructure like sewage treatment and electrical grids start going.....
marmar
May 2012
#20
Is EU doing anything to preserve their health care situation that would be of importance to this
jwirr
May 2012
#42
That is what I was afraid of. I think one big problem with a collapse and government programs is
jwirr
May 2012
#55
Totally agree but I grew up in the early 40s and did not have a lot of the modern things we have
jwirr
May 2012
#43
True that. I visited an operating "pioneer village" museum a couple of years ago
GliderGuider
May 2012
#85
You are right - I actually began to realize that when I was in college and when I went home I
jwirr
May 2012
#88
And it was a time of fun and plunder. The Crusades and intrigues w/ Second Rome at Constantinople
leveymg
May 2012
#31
One of the themes of the 70s: we can chose between the castle or the tribe. Unfortunately I
jwirr
May 2012
#45
That would truly be Shock and Awe - sure to send any enemy running, screaming, pleading for mercy
leveymg
May 2012
#52
I agree. When you see it all listed out like that it really drives the point home.
GliderGuider
May 2012
#61
I heartily concur. That honesty about facing our situation head on is
coalition_unwilling
May 2012
#76