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Aerows

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138. I'm an engineer not a lawyer.
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 09:50 PM
Mar 2015

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(C) to the extent practicable, estimates of costs to the Federal Government
resulting from the failure of agencies to
implement such recommendations.
(d)
In addition, the Administrator, in carrying out subsection (b), shall have the responsibilit
y to
promote economy and efficiency in the selection and utilization of space, staff, equipment, and
supplies for records management.
The Archivist shall promulgate regulations requiring all
Federal agencies to transfer all digital or electronic records t
o the National Archives of the
United States in digital or electronic form to the greatest exten
t
possible.
§ 2905. Establishment of standards for selective retention of records; security measures
(a) The Archivist shall establish standards for the selective retention of records of continuing
value, and assist Federal agencies in applying the standards to records in their custody.
He
The
Archivist
shall notify the head of a Federal agency of any act
ual, impending, or threatened
unlawful removal, defacing, alteration, or destruction of records in the custody of the agency that
shall come to
his
the Archivist’s
attention, and assist the head of the agency in initiating action
through the Attorney Gener
al for the recovery of records unlawfully removed and for other
redress provided by law. In any case in which the head of the agency does not initiate an action
for such recovery or other redress within a reasonable period of time after being notified of a
ny
such unlawful action, the Archivist shall request the Attorney General to initiate such an action,
and shall notify the Congress when such a request has been made.
(b) The Archivist shall assist the Administrator for the Office of Information and Regula
tory
Affairs in conducting studies and developing standards relating to record retention requirements
imposed on the public and on State and local governments by Federal agencies.
§ 2906. Inspection of agency records
(a)(1) In carrying out
their respective
the
duties and responsibilities under this chapter,
the
Administrator of General Services and
the Archivist (or the designee
of either
) may inspect the
records or the records management practices and programs of any Federal agency
solely
for the
purpose o
f rendering recommendations for the improvement of records management practices
and programs
and for determining whether the records of Federal agencies have sufficient value
to warrant continued preservation or lack sufficient value to justify continued p
reservation
.
Officers and employees of such agencies shall cooperate fully in such inspections, subject to the
provisions of paragraphs
(2) and (3) of this subsection.
(2) Records, the use of which is restricted by law or for reasons of national security o
r the
public interest, shall be inspected, in accordance with regulations promulgated by
the
Administrator and
the Archivist, subject to the approval of the head of the agency concerned or
of the President.

Only for the people foaming at the mouth. William769 Mar 2015 #1
I would not rely on any politicians word that when they destroyed 10,000s documents from their morningfog Mar 2015 #2
No employee of the State Department is required to keep copies of their DonViejo Mar 2015 #7
Any employee should keep the two on separate accounts so we don't hear "Just trust me." morningfog Mar 2015 #14
Well there you go! You have your rationale for not voting for her in DonViejo Mar 2015 #21
Why are the pro-Hillary people so quick with personal attacks? morningfog Mar 2015 #22
It's all they have n/t arcane1 Mar 2015 #35
Way to hurt a fella, LOL/NT DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #46
That's a PA? Cooley Hurd Mar 2015 #54
Sure. Not hide-able or particularly offensive, morningfog Mar 2015 #55
Would you trust a Bush or a Rumsfeld if they said something like that? frylock Mar 2015 #72
So why not have two email accounts. Travis_0004 Mar 2015 #63
It would seem that some liberals here expect other liberals to be naive. Remember: "it's her turn" BP2 Mar 2015 #42
Then find a candidate... DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #51
The only people I ever hear saying that are never going to vote for her anyway. Same with the.... Hekate Mar 2015 #86
William, wouldn't it be nice for the people who hate Hillary not vote for her... DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #3
Gnats. William769 Mar 2015 #5
Sometimes it ruins the whole DU experience ... DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #8
Agreed. William769 Mar 2015 #9
It does get old. n/t GentryDixon Mar 2015 #12
No one is required to open threads. former9thward Mar 2015 #13
I wasn't being literal...Just striking up conversation with an old board friend. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #19
Agreed. William769 Mar 2015 #25
Thank You... DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #28
This is why we go way back. William769 Mar 2015 #33
They have also given you a ignore button. William769 Mar 2015 #48
Yes, but I was not the one complaining, now was I? former9thward Mar 2015 #52
Actually, yes, your #13 was a passive aggressive complaint. nt stevenleser Mar 2015 #93
Passive-aggressive much? DeSwiss Mar 2015 #59
I'm not passive aggressive and I can prove it. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #67
By the way, some anonymous idiot believes you're a right wing troll. DisgustipatedinCA Mar 2015 #96
I administrated an email system Aerows Mar 2015 #118
No one has yet to show what law she violated. And if she did why isn't she being charged? William769 Mar 2015 #152
This message was self-deleted by its author Aerows Mar 2015 #154
I stood up to the plate and Aerows Mar 2015 #155
Is this the one you are speaking of? William769 Mar 2015 #159
It is Aerows Mar 2015 #160
You might want to check when that law went into effect. William769 Mar 2015 #162
Everyone that wants to go to jail for me Aerows Mar 2015 #164
So now you are changing your story and can't cite a law. William769 Mar 2015 #165
You are welcome Aerows Mar 2015 #167
I am not going to jail neither is Hillary. William769 Mar 2015 #168
Never thought she would Aerows Mar 2015 #169
The risk is if even '1' work email turns up that wasn't part of the doc dump??? 4139 Mar 2015 #4
You mean mercuryblues Mar 2015 #6
Disqualified, IMO. NYC_SKP Mar 2015 #10
Icing on the cake? I think it's the tip of the iceberg. morningfog Mar 2015 #17
This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Mar 2015 #11
so predictable. I was talking to a friend.. OKNancy Mar 2015 #15
Mind you, if she had two email addresses, they'd still chime in. joshcryer Mar 2015 #20
Except they aren't. That is why you delineate. morningfog Mar 2015 #27
"Everything sent to .gov addresses." joshcryer Mar 2015 #39
Even in the presser she admitted that only the majority morningfog Mar 2015 #41
Then what's the big deal? joshcryer Mar 2015 #44
The big deal is that it cannot be left to trust. morningfog Mar 2015 #47
This is Filegate all over again. joshcryer Mar 2015 #50
It's my main issue with her - she's not a good campaigner. CanadaexPat Mar 2015 #60
I thought it peculiar she said she would need two devices to accommodate two accounts. AtomicKitten Mar 2015 #16
A DUer who worked in government explained several days ago that he would have pnwmom Mar 2015 #29
Stupid question: wouldn't the personal email address predate her job as SoS? arcane1 Mar 2015 #53
I heard it was set up about the same time. But even if she had a second cell pnwmom Mar 2015 #56
Drug dealers carry several phones mybuddy Mar 2015 #70
So now she's in the same league with drug dealers? Hekate Mar 2015 #83
Correct... and at least at my agency..... Adrahil Mar 2015 #57
This was also said on CNN by one of the reporters right after her press conference today. Metric System Mar 2015 #77
I'm glad they pointed that out. n/t pnwmom Mar 2015 #92
Bullshit. She could've configured her phone anyway she wanted to. NOVA_Dem Mar 2015 #43
She did not say she deleted them from the server. joshcryer Mar 2015 #18
You are right. I will edit my parenthetical. morningfog Mar 2015 #23
Unless you are going to prohibit govt officials from having private e-mails ... DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #24
Indeed. joshcryer Mar 2015 #31
If a person was inclined to do something nefarious he or she would use his... DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #37
She deleted them from the server. morningfog Mar 2015 #173
Good. pnwmom Mar 2015 #26
I criticized them when they were in office and would have had they run a campaign. morningfog Mar 2015 #30
But you just have to "trust her" that the personal emails actually were personal. morningfog Mar 2015 #32
I do. And I also saw remember Kenneth Starr's investigation. pnwmom Mar 2015 #38
You think that the emails of the 47 traitors are on private.. misterhighwasted Mar 2015 #34
Thank you for this Right Wing talking point! leftofcool Mar 2015 #36
"...will likely fan controversy"... JHB Mar 2015 #40
Who gives q shit, except the republicans. boston bean Mar 2015 #45
Would you trust a republican who did the same thing? morningfog Mar 2015 #49
you be honest. You think Hillary has deleted official emails? boston bean Mar 2015 #58
I have no idea and neither do you. morningfog Mar 2015 #98
let it continue to distract you. It doesn't distract me. boston bean Mar 2015 #105
It is going to continue to distract Hillary and her campaign. morningfog Mar 2015 #110
ok. whatever you say... boston bean Mar 2015 #111
It's already forced her first presser in years. morningfog Mar 2015 #114
I know following every single rule there was and breaking no law boston bean Mar 2015 #116
To be clear, I don't think there is something nefarious. morningfog Mar 2015 #119
In your opinion. You don't find her to be trustworthy. boston bean Mar 2015 #121
I don't trust any politician, why would you? morningfog Mar 2015 #123
I don't give full trust in any politician. But I trust she broke no law or rules, not based on her boston bean Mar 2015 #126
I've never claimed a law or rule was broken. morningfog Mar 2015 #132
Where you see poor judgment, I see a political attack based in falsities and a bunch of boston bean Mar 2015 #133
You failed to answer the question put to you. That's ok...your answer is now assumed. DisgustipatedinCA Mar 2015 #100
assume away. boston bean Mar 2015 #108
Stinks for the Gowdy crew. That's about it. NCTraveler Mar 2015 #61
You're not thinking about this logically. randome Mar 2015 #62
The issue is nobody can verify if she is releasing all the emails Travis_0004 Mar 2015 #64
But you could NEVER verify that she has released everything. randome Mar 2015 #66
Anybody with a government e-mail address and a private e-mail address could do just what you suggest DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #73
You can't use private email where I work. DisgustipatedinCA Mar 2015 #101
I thought of that but many employees aren't confined to an office. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #102
Not arguing with you this time around, just clarifying. DisgustipatedinCA Mar 2015 #103
We don't disagree... DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #109
Thanks. DisgustipatedinCA Mar 2015 #112
Still early and nice out. I need to wrest myself away from the computer. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #115
Any email sent to any employee of the govt is on that person's hard drive. What is so difficult... Hekate Mar 2015 #65
and any emails sent to TransCanada? frylock Mar 2015 #74
Nobody said she couldn't have a private email system and a private life. TwilightGardener Mar 2015 #79
So everyone at State did business on .gov EXCEPT Hillary? morningfog Mar 2015 #99
Some folks are too stupid to understand that an email once sent, is no longer ... JoePhilly Mar 2015 #166
This stinks. She is more a threat to us than the Republicans LittleBlue Mar 2015 #68
Maybe it will turn out she is a witch and consequently not a naturalized American. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #71
Somewhere someone has started building a pyre. Again. Hekate Mar 2015 #85
Good god. BainsBane Mar 2015 #69
That's why she did it--mixed her personal and professional together. TwilightGardener Mar 2015 #75
You were never going to, were you? Hekate Mar 2015 #78
I can always be won over. Especially since I won't vote for a Repub TwilightGardener Mar 2015 #81
Even if she had a private e-mail address and a governmental e-mail address... DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #84
Seems like you could avoid of lot of mistrust and suspicion by just using the TwilightGardener Mar 2015 #87
If she was that clever, then why send out hypothetical secret emails in the first place? randome Mar 2015 #88
The whole point of setting up your own server and avoiding the federal government's TwilightGardener Mar 2015 #89
Right. Hundreds of thousands of emails and she chose to purge only the 'special' emails. randome Mar 2015 #90
LOL. OK. Just the President's policy and her own policy at State, to use TwilightGardener Mar 2015 #91
This won't stick and here is why. Rex Mar 2015 #76
Yes, Rex, this. nt AverageJoe90 Mar 2015 #144
The PTB didn't even give a shit about the S&L Scandals. Rex Mar 2015 #145
Well now the media can put this aside and concentrate on the 47 Senators. Autumn Mar 2015 #80
republicans are attempting a coup and you're stirring up shit about emails? bigtree Mar 2015 #82
+1 Couldn't agree more! B Calm Mar 2015 #94
" . . . will likely fan the controversy." Major Hogwash Mar 2015 #95
Too bad fadedrose Mar 2015 #97
Pride goeth before a fall... NYC_SKP Mar 2015 #104
she never was required to keep all emails CreekDog Mar 2015 #106
Right, but by not segregating the accounts, morningfog Mar 2015 #107
I'm sure she can tell the difference. You think she deleted official emails? boston bean Mar 2015 #113
Why would ever take a politician on their word on morningfog Mar 2015 #117
Did Hillary break the law? Did she break some rule? Did she not follow some process she needed to? boston bean Mar 2015 #120
Hillary is the one helping the republicans. morningfog Mar 2015 #122
Well, here is the problem. Aerows Mar 2015 #124
yeah, right. No recent secretary of state before her used .gov email. boston bean Mar 2015 #125
Doesn't make any of it right. And if they start campaigning morningfog Mar 2015 #129
She followed the rules and the law. You got nothing. boston bean Mar 2015 #130
She did not, and neither did Bush and Cheney in 2006. n/t Aerows Mar 2015 #135
Not the same thing. They deleted official emails. Are you saying Hillary did that? boston bean Mar 2015 #136
She did something incredibly stupid. morningfog Mar 2015 #137
No law broken, no rule broken. You can dream about all types of things you may find nefarious. boston bean Mar 2015 #139
Lol, don't you get it? Since the Hillary email system is based morningfog Mar 2015 #141
Like I say, when you got something other than a gut feeling boston bean Mar 2015 #142
Had Hillary segregated her emails, the Repubs wouldn't believe that, either. kwassa Mar 2015 #170
Bingo. Aerows Mar 2015 #153
Yes. P.L. 113-187 (Records law) Aerows Mar 2015 #127
I'm not opening a pdf linked from DU. Post the pertinent info.. boston bean Mar 2015 #128
It's 24 pages, but if you insist, I will Aerows Mar 2015 #131
The part where it will clearly state she broke the law, as you claimed. boston bean Mar 2015 #134
I'm an engineer not a lawyer. Aerows Mar 2015 #138
She didn't break the law. boston bean Mar 2015 #140
Please state the article Aerows Mar 2015 #146
She didn't violate any article. boston bean Mar 2015 #147
She did, indeed, and I was as angry Aerows Mar 2015 #149
You are wrong. I don't know what else to tell you. boston bean Mar 2015 #150
Repeatedly telling someone that they are wrong Aerows Mar 2015 #151
But you are. boston bean Mar 2015 #156
Sadly Aerows Mar 2015 #158
I've told you twice why you are incorrect. boston bean Mar 2015 #161
Tell me again Aerows Mar 2015 #163
Honestly, this is just stupid. Dubya Bush did the same thing, and worse. AverageJoe90 Mar 2015 #143
You and I agree upon about 2 things Aerows Mar 2015 #148
No Hillary did not do what bush and Cheney did. boston bean Mar 2015 #157
I had no intention of attacking you, though, btw. AverageJoe90 Mar 2015 #171
Thank you Aerows Mar 2015 #172
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