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In reply to the discussion: The manufactured outrage that purports to be legitimate criticism of Hillary is pathetic [View all]TheKentuckian
(25,026 posts)with extraordinary name recognition with "generic Democrats" almost unerringly being that particular person's definition of Democrat be it in fact or almost wholly fiction.
Roughly 40% each way are flat out voting their party regardless of the actual individual is a communist or a feudalist.
Even in an absolute wipe out, a near or actual electoral sweep that lower is going to be around 40%.
Most people cannot name their own delegation much less senators and other officials around the country and while Democrats might do better than Republicans and unaffiliated voters it still largely applies.
People know who Hillary Clinton is, she is associated with Bill Clinton closely (call it sexist if you want but it is still true) who is popular, and know she is a Democrat and in the majority of cases I would contend it goes little deeper than that.
Take away people that have already been President and Hillary and I wonder which Democratic politician is over 25% name recognition nationally. Maybe Biden and he is the sitting VP. That goes even if you give the name and ask who they are.
We are talking a country where more than 25% think the Sun orbits the Earth.
In any event and whatever the rationale, I don't care about how popular a choice is but if they are at least an acceptable one and at this point in history it is dangerously wrong in my estimation in a long run of wrong that absolutely must be halted if we are to stop digging this giant hole.
The first rule of getting out of a deep hole is to stop digging not digging less than the most vigorous digging one can imagine.
I'm happy to discuss the options on climbing out. Happy to talk options on filling in the hole. We can look at different approaches for avoiding future holes but I am not here to negotiate the rate of excavation at all and consider all the pro digging folks to be deadly opposition.
Call me a radical (though absurd on an absolute political scale), call me uncompromising (though that is false, rather that I've compromised past my limits of what is tolerable for the habitat, for workers, for our civil liberties, for education, and for open, clandestine, and yes economic warmongering), call me what you will but I can't ignore the direction we are going and the orientation of our institutions on the grand scale.
No, people don't have to be Turd Way ardent to get taken in by it, snookered by it, ignorant of it or what it is about, and certainly doesn't stop folks from getting caught in triangulation and dirty hostage taking (accept "free trade" or your daughter is going to be in alley with a wire hanger up her vagina! or get behind some cuts to your Social Security or lose your vote, sucker!).