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cui bono

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21. We know you refuse to look at truth.

Mon Feb 23, 2015, 12:00 AM

Feb 2015

You shouldn't get so emotional over politics, particularly over one politician. It's more important to look at the truth than it is to blindly defend another person. That's what really matters in a democracy.

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Glenn Greenwald is holding an Oscar on TV right now. [View all] cui bono Feb 2015 OP

This message was self-deleted by its author MohRokTah Feb 2015 #1

Aw... cui bono Feb 2015 #2

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Aw... cui bono Feb 2015 #5

"Edward Snowden couldn't be here for some (t)reason." uhnope Feb 2015 #184

Comrade Snowden was too busy,, Cryptoad Feb 2015 #202

Hello NSA Lover billhicks76 Feb 2015 #263

You make Papa Paul Proud,,,,,,, Cryptoad Feb 2015 #284

This message was self-deleted by its author BeanMusical Feb 2015 #286

Hahaha. billhicks76 Feb 2015 #289

Treason is Treason ,,,, Cryptoad Feb 2015 #297

Yes And You Support Treason billhicks76 Feb 2015 #303

YOu have no idea what or whom I support or not. Cryptoad Feb 2015 #308

You're The One Making This A Job...Not Me billhicks76 Feb 2015 #312

That was hilarious - TBF Feb 2015 #209

One of the best lines spoken all night :) fadedrose Feb 2015 #211

Loved it amuse bouche Feb 2015 #220

It was a great line, he put a pause between the t and reason. And the audience got it. The very fact sabrina 1 Feb 2015 #276

Stupid joke. Hissyspit Feb 2015 #213

Yup, totally agree. BeanMusical Feb 2015 #285

I guess some feel more comfortable wallowing in the authoritarian bubble of rhett o rick Feb 2015 #219

Same old Beltway Bandits - making off with the taxpayer $s erronis Feb 2015 #233

Only if you ... staggerleem Feb 2015 #237

Unbelievable billhicks76 Feb 2015 #305

Well, it's not the first time in history that a nation has given up its rights in the name of sabrina 1 Feb 2015 #306

Let's See These Jerks Attack Poitras billhicks76 Feb 2015 #307

I think someone's jealous! nt Logical Feb 2015 #12

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? Electric Monk Feb 2015 #137

They've posted that four times in this thread. Along with... one_voice Feb 2015 #144

What??? How would you know that? sabrina 1 Feb 2015 #140

It was just another disruptor who hates Sid. hrmjustin Feb 2015 #162

But the one demanding that a reporter be killed is just on vacation??? BeanMusical Feb 2015 #165

Well skinner and Earlg will review that tomorrow or Tuesday. hrmjustin Feb 2015 #166

Well it was reviewed and that fine poster will be back to make DU a better place. BeanMusical Feb 2015 #287

I am suprised somewhat but it is their call. hrmjustin Feb 2015 #300

Certain trolls have always enjoyed a kind of protected status here. QC Feb 2015 #311

I would have liked an answer from the poster who made the claim. sabrina 1 Feb 2015 #169

The poster was looking to cause disruption. hrmjustin Feb 2015 #170

It smeared Skinner. To claim that he is in any way related to Sid would cause hundreds of people to sabrina 1 Feb 2015 #174

I don't believe there is a comparison. bvar22 Feb 2015 #254

That's for sure! n/t sabrina 1 Feb 2015 #256

I am interested in this also. Mojorabbit Feb 2015 #217

He didn't. It was an attempt at disruption. hrmjustin Feb 2015 #224

He disrupts through time, ad nauseam ... MrMickeysMom Feb 2015 #277

The person just banned? i would agree. hrmjustin Feb 2015 #278

I'm not sure who was banned... MrMickeysMom Feb 2015 #279

I am not going to get into the peronal stuff. hrmjustin Feb 2015 #280

Wouldn't expect that... MrMickeysMom Feb 2015 #281

Agreed. hrmjustin Feb 2015 #282

Delirious would be a more accurate word. BeanMusical Feb 2015 #139

Wow! What are the charges against Greenwald again? grasswire Feb 2015 #13

This message was self-deleted by its author MohRokTah Feb 2015 #14

no, the REAL CHARGES grasswire Feb 2015 #23

Did you indict him yourself? Comrade Grumpy Feb 2015 #25

Apparently. cui bono Feb 2015 #37

Of course malaise Feb 2015 #194

He was invited onstage by the film maker. ScreamingMeemie Feb 2015 #18

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One of the filmmakers explicitly said they shared their Oscar with him. cui bono Feb 2015 #26

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"Hang the fucker."? NYC_SKP Feb 2015 #64

Harsh is kind of mellow to describe a call for lynching a reporter. Rex Feb 2015 #97

+1 BeanMusical Feb 2015 #155

+ another Scuba Feb 2015 #189

Even I wouldn't go so far as to say that... Blue_Tires Feb 2015 #320

I was happy to see that right wing troll take two hides Ramses Feb 2015 #115

+1,000 Scuba Feb 2015 #190

... SidDithers Feb 2015 #198

Will you be equally as excited if MohRokTah gets the same treatment? rhett o rick Feb 2015 #248

That poster got away with it and will be back after some time off. BeanMusical Feb 2015 #288

I find that strange, but you are probably correct. nm rhett o rick Feb 2015 #296

Um... cyberswede Feb 2015 #204

and how did that work out for you? snooper2 Feb 2015 #232

. Egnever Feb 2015 #271

Harsh is putting it mildly. n/t sabrina 1 Feb 2015 #143

Glad to see him take a vacation. L0oniX Feb 2015 #161

me too! Nt Logical Feb 2015 #251

What is sad is that two jurors agreed with the lynching of Greenwald. rhett o rick Feb 2015 #225

Curious. NYC_SKP Feb 2015 #227

Very likely. nm rhett o rick Feb 2015 #230

Dup. nm rhett o rick Feb 2015 #246

I don't care for Greenwald, but your posts in this thread are over the top tammywammy Feb 2015 #74

Not all that proud, apparently. He or she reigns with self deletes. merrily Feb 2015 #176

Have to wonder marym625 Feb 2015 #103

Probably did it to avoid a forced DU vacation Iggo Feb 2015 #108

Link to cached page: BeanMusical Feb 2015 #152

Thanks! marym625 Feb 2015 #154

You google the URL of the OP and if the page is cached you click on the little arrow BeanMusical Feb 2015 #157

Cool! Thanks! n/t marym625 Feb 2015 #158

OK but he was not chosen as a winner for one by the Academy treestar Feb 2015 #146

That film would not exist without Glenn Greenwald and one of the filmmakers cui bono Feb 2015 #171

+1 BeanMusical Feb 2015 #179

pretty scary talk there... grasswire Feb 2015 #29

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Calm down... you're having some trouble typing. cui bono Feb 2015 #36

This message was self-deleted by its author MohRokTah Feb 2015 #38

Come on... lay it out... cui bono Feb 2015 #41

This message was self-deleted by its author MohRokTah Feb 2015 #43

So no evidence. cui bono Feb 2015 #44

This message was self-deleted by its author MohRokTah Feb 2015 #45

Again, no evidence. And now we see you don't like the first amendment either. cui bono Feb 2015 #47

This message was self-deleted by its author MohRokTah Feb 2015 #48

No, what's "telling" is that you have yet to provide any evidence. cui bono Feb 2015 #52

And back that one goes into timeout land. Rex Feb 2015 #58

I wonder how that one is still here LittleBlue Feb 2015 #69

Friends in the right places. Rex Feb 2015 #73

@ whoever got all those last minute alerts in before deletion LittleBlue Feb 2015 #87

Totally. Rex Feb 2015 #92

. NYC_SKP Feb 2015 #117

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This message was self-deleted by its author Aerows Feb 2015 #153

I dedicate this song to them: Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2015 #119

There's ones that are on MIRT with the full knowledge and acceptance of admins Ramses Feb 2015 #118

Really? Please tell liberalhistorian Feb 2015 #135

Sad isn't it? And good Democrats are not here anymore! sabrina 1 Feb 2015 #148

Sad.. Chimeradog Feb 2015 #261

Sad to see someone on DU post that journalists should be hung. Autumn Feb 2015 #78

Reminds me of the gamergate assholes. Rex Feb 2015 #85

That was a satisfying Triple Decker lock. Those posts were the ugliest I have seen in a long Autumn Feb 2015 #91

True I don't remember the last time someone started calling for the lynching of a reporter. Rex Feb 2015 #95

He/she is a strong Hillary supporter. Enough said. JDPriestly Feb 2015 #128

+1 BeanMusical Feb 2015 #163

I wonder... cyberswede Feb 2015 #205

If the goal is to make Hillary supporters look bad LondonReign2 Feb 2015 #239

This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Feb 2015 #82

Calling for a lynching is so uncharacteristic of progressives. Wanting to kill a reporter, my my. Rex Feb 2015 #89

That entire string of posts Aerows Feb 2015 #99

Time for Pretzel Warrior aka functioning_cog aka (?) to pull another sock out of their drawer Electric Monk Feb 2015 #110

If only they would put them in the laundry... cui bono Feb 2015 #116

Lol! BeanMusical Feb 2015 #164

I thought that person seemed familiar. /nt Marr Feb 2015 #245

Well, you have Progressives, Fuddnik Feb 2015 #101

As I've said before, the Big Tent is diverse. Rex Feb 2015 #107

+100 truth 840high Feb 2015 #67

I don't even know what MohTahMouth said, but I admire your handling of it! Dark n Stormy Knight Feb 2015 #191

He's no Judith Miller that's for fucking sure. Autumn Feb 2015 #40

=) cui bono Feb 2015 #42

Now come the self deletes Autumn Feb 2015 #59

Yeah, that's hilarious! cui bono Feb 2015 #62

+1 Jack Rabbit Feb 2015 #121

I've noticed you've deleted many of your own posts in your time at DU. pa28 Feb 2015 #51

Interesting. cui bono Feb 2015 #54

Now he's on vacation again. QC Feb 2015 #55

Guess he didn't self-delete fast enough. cui bono Feb 2015 #57

It seems he compiled a couple of hides before he could self delete all the death threats. pa28 Feb 2015 #81

OMG... too funny!!! cui bono Feb 2015 #94

Thank you. JDPriestly Feb 2015 #142

Hate-induced rage spiral accompanied by fits of self-deletion. DisgustipatedinCA Feb 2015 #105

Come on, tell us what you really think.. Fumesucker Feb 2015 #4

Haha haha!! riderinthestorm Feb 2015 #6

Seriously. As if GG had nothing to do with the film. cui bono Feb 2015 #15

I felt nausea actually. FarPoint Feb 2015 #7

No, he is not. He was born in Queens, NY. ScreamingMeemie Feb 2015 #17

Yes, his writing for the Guardian was the British connection. FarPoint Feb 2015 #20

He's as American as I am. :) ScreamingMeemie Feb 2015 #24

Awwww, somebody's grumpy. Naptime! Lol nt Logical Feb 2015 #8

Was a really good documentary. Saw it when it was... JaneyVee Feb 2015 #9

This message was self-deleted by its author MohRokTah Feb 2015 #11

We know you refuse to look at truth. cui bono Feb 2015 #21

Give it a shot, it's on HBO tomorrow. JaneyVee Feb 2015 #33

Nope MohRokTah Feb 2015 #34

Part of me thinks you're just fucking with us, no one can be that close minded! Nt Logical Feb 2015 #49

This message was self-deleted by its author MohRokTah Feb 2015 #50

Well you have quite a way with words, you have impressed with your knowledge! LOL Logical Feb 2015 #53

That strange pretzel logic at work again! Rex Feb 2015 #60

So you've noticed and I noticed. When will the people in charge? nt Guy Whitey Corngood Feb 2015 #72

It's been years since they cared what happens here. nt QC Feb 2015 #76

Yep. And now they opened their new playground where anything goes. cui bono Feb 2015 #83

Yep. Absentee landlords. Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2015 #132

Have you ever lived in a neighborhood with lots QC Feb 2015 #196

They don't run the ship anymore. Rex Feb 2015 #79

Yes, a little vacation. Did you mean pretzel logic or pretzel warrior? :-) Logical Feb 2015 #265

NSA Considered Traitors By Most Democrats billhicks76 Feb 2015 #290

Exactly shenmue Feb 2015 #10

Woo Hoo! bigwillq Feb 2015 #16

And heads all over DU start exploding... truebrit71 Feb 2015 #22

That's right! I saw it and def recommend it. JaneyVee Feb 2015 #28

Someones did all over this thread. Rex Feb 2015 #98

Is Oscar Rage related to Carlos Danger? n/t xocet Feb 2015 #151

That is complete and utter . . . Jack Rabbit Feb 2015 #124

It's free on the Internets. Cryptome should have it. nt msanthrope Feb 2015 #199

DU Rec. SixString Feb 2015 #27

Someone should tell the academy about the awful things I've read of "GG" here on DU. pa28 Feb 2015 #31

I'm more afraid of those threatening violence against him. grasswire Feb 2015 #35

And those who have already accused, indicted, tried and sentenced him. cui bono Feb 2015 #46

+100 nt 99th_Monkey Feb 2015 #70

Me too Aerows Feb 2015 #129

Snort. progressoid Feb 2015 #39

Karma... WillyT Feb 2015 #56

This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Feb 2015 #61

And yet still extremely amusing. cui bono Feb 2015 #65

This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Feb 2015 #66

+1 merrily Feb 2015 #178

Greenwald is a self absorbed... one_voice Feb 2015 #63

My personal feelings... SoapBox Feb 2015 #68

lol, so talk about heads exploding! Some kind of explosion happend in this thread, looks like dissentient Feb 2015 #71

LOL !!! - Yep... "Clean-Up... Meltdown On Aisle Four..." WillyT Feb 2015 #88

Kaboom! :) dissentient Feb 2015 #96

K&R n/t zentrum Feb 2015 #75

Snowden's girlfriend was on stage too. DesMoinesDem Feb 2015 #77

Was that the young woman in the shoft tulle skirt? hedda_foil Feb 2015 #93

Yes DesMoinesDem Feb 2015 #113

The ballerina whose heart he so cruelly shattered? QC Feb 2015 #102

I seem to remember Snowden's cruel and caddish ways told us about his character. pa28 Feb 2015 #106

He probably threatened her! QC Feb 2015 #109

He menaced her Aerows Feb 2015 #122

I heard he threatened to take away her dancin' pole! QC Feb 2015 #123

She doesn't talk to her neighbors Aerows Feb 2015 #131

Of course she doesn't talk to the neighbors-- QC Feb 2015 #197

Thank for a most satisfying thread! And congratulations to the filmmakers. Luminous Animal Feb 2015 #80

My pleasure! cui bono Feb 2015 #84

And the record for most posts hidden for an individual in a GD thread is.... HERVEPA Feb 2015 #86

And also for best special effect. pa28 Feb 2015 #90

That was insane Aerows Feb 2015 #104

And very well "deserved." (That was... epic.) deurbano Feb 2015 #112

Also nominated: posts #125, #130, #134 muriel_volestrangler Feb 2015 #193

And they've won the coveted Wharrgarbl. Guy Whitey Corngood Feb 2015 #100

That was a thing of beauty Oilwellian Feb 2015 #111

I can't believe what I saw skimming thru this thread. stone space Feb 2015 #114

No fan of Greenwald, didn't want to see him, but will see the film. mountain grammy Feb 2015 #120

The film wouldn't have existed without him. Hissyspit Feb 2015 #212

I get that and I'll see the film. mountain grammy Feb 2015 #218

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What exactly got self deleted? ybbor Feb 2015 #126

You can see the hides up above earlier in the thread if you click on them. They were pretty ugly dissentient Feb 2015 #141

Almost every post was a profanity filled, name-calling call for lynching a journalist. n/t cui bono Feb 2015 #145

So just the same as the hides? ybbor Feb 2015 #147

And as someone who respects both GG and ES... ybbor Feb 2015 #150

put a lot of folks on ignore when the line was drawn in the sand here a few years ago..happy to say, xiamiam Feb 2015 #177

Weird. With the U.S. being a police state and all, it's remarkable he's free to walk around... Drunken Irishman Feb 2015 #127

Post removed Post removed Feb 2015 #130

How many times you gonna post this? one_voice Feb 2015 #136

It was a night for meltdowns. herding cats Feb 2015 #167

Kick lild Feb 2015 #138

Good on Laura Poitras et al! xocet Feb 2015 #149

"Leakers should be shot in the balls." –Edward Snowden NYC Liberal Feb 2015 #156

Both Snowden and Greenwald are operating under false flags. Ikonoklast Feb 2015 #207

K&R'd! snot Feb 2015 #159

K & R! deurbano Feb 2015 #160

This thread is all kinds of awesome... SidDithers Feb 2015 #168

frwrfpos? Electric Monk Feb 2015 #175

No one should get away with calling for the lynching of anyone. Don't you agree? nm rhett o rick Feb 2015 #226

Yep. This is one of *those* threads. Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2015 #235

I think we need your long form please. stonecutter357 Feb 2015 #242

this should go with a picture reorg Feb 2015 #172

Congratulations Glenn Greenwald. nt Cali_Democrat Feb 2015 #173

And unlike a couple of Peace Prizes..... DeSwiss Feb 2015 #180

Bravo! Thank you again Glenn Greenwald and Edward Snowden. Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2015 #181

+1,000 malaise Feb 2015 #186

K & R for the exploding heads and pissing off the right people neverforget Feb 2015 #182

Amazing thread and well deserved oscar Ichingcarpenter Feb 2015 #183

Wow, this thread. Jamastiene Feb 2015 #185

First link worked for me Go Vols Feb 2015 #236

I thought he was afraid leftynyc Feb 2015 #187

good for him! NuttyFluffers Feb 2015 #188

I never would have predicted that a thread bout the Academy Awards would be my all-time favorite. Scuba Feb 2015 #192

I know! Right? All this stoopid in one place. SaveOurDemocracy Feb 2015 #244

Haha... I didn't see that thread. n/t cui bono Feb 2015 #255

When I saw your OP title I knew it wold be a hoot. SaveOurDemocracy Feb 2015 #257

The Reality Based Community has Spoken Once Again carolinayellowdog Feb 2015 #195

The hides were all because of profanity laced calls to lynch a journalist and cui bono Feb 2015 #258

Polite and justified replies are invisible if the anti-Greenwald nut to whom they reply is on ignore carolinayellowdog Feb 2015 #301

Ah... I see. When I read your post I was thinking "invisible" was the self-deletes. cui bono Feb 2015 #319

Morning Kick !!! WillyT Feb 2015 #200

Good place for him Cryptoad Feb 2015 #201

Cool, is he invited to any of the fun parties with the wealthy? jberryhill Feb 2015 #203

Only in Ecuador. randome Feb 2015 #210

This message was self-deleted by its author Hissyspit Feb 2015 #215

I saw that and felt the seismic activity from DU Jakes Progress Feb 2015 #206

Got it on TIVO elias49 Feb 2015 #208

I was so surprised and Duval Feb 2015 #214

Damn... freebrew Feb 2015 #216

Hats off to all that fight for our freedoms and liberties. They are the heroes. rhett o rick Feb 2015 #221

This message was self-deleted by its author Capt. Obvious Feb 2015 #222

Why? He didn't make the fuckin' movie.... Blue_Tires Feb 2015 #223

The film wouldn't have happened without him. Hissyspit Feb 2015 #229

He's IN the 'fucking movie' which wouldn't have happened without him. And if the directors and sabrina 1 Feb 2015 #241

Glenn Greenwald is holding an Oscar on TV right now Ichingcarpenter Feb 2015 #243

... Marr Feb 2015 #249

ROFLMAO! BeanMusical Feb 2015 #293

Phew, talk about "kill the messenger" ...I wish we could discuss what the docu is about randys1 Feb 2015 #228

I'll be watching it. Fuddnik Feb 2015 #231

Yes, it was excellent. bigmonkey Feb 2015 #234

Yes...it is well worth a view... KoKo Feb 2015 #252

! City Lights Feb 2015 #238

And I was told the US is a fascist police state. NCTraveler Feb 2015 #240

Leakers be warned: Blue_Tires Feb 2015 #247

seems a lot rtracey Feb 2015 #250

Those that value freedom see whistle-blowers and investigative journalists as heroes, while the rhett o rick Feb 2015 #253

WOW!!! bvar22 Feb 2015 #259

rec for causing all the right heads to explode and earn a vacay. KG Feb 2015 #260

K&R woo me with science Feb 2015 #262

Dear cui bono... Thank You For Starting One Of The Top Ten Threads In DU History !!! WillyT Feb 2015 #264

Haha... I was noticed and thanked by WillyT!!! Wow! cui bono Feb 2015 #267

You've Always Been There My Friend... WillyT Feb 2015 #268

Aw shucks... cui bono Feb 2015 #270

Authoritarian concern trolls will be the first ones to tattoo a barcode on their forehead whereisjustice Feb 2015 #266

For all the abuse that so-called "Snowden-haters" get, his and Greenwald's supporters.... George II Feb 2015 #269

"the abuse that so-called "Snowden-haters" get" WillyT Feb 2015 #272

.... dissentient Feb 2015 #273

Yes, they do an awful lot of projecting. betsuni Feb 2015 #274

So Glenn has an award for entertainment. Progressive dog Feb 2015 #275

As Michael Moore showed us with 9/11, a good documentary makes the truth engaging even when it is whereisjustice Feb 2015 #283

That's the best you could come up with? DeSwiss Feb 2015 #292

Yes, that's pathetic. BeanMusical Feb 2015 #294

Yes it was, simply because it is true. Progressive dog Feb 2015 #310

You are wrong. Documentaries are not all made for entertainment. cui bono Feb 2015 #317

DU Sock Puppets? billhicks76 Feb 2015 #291

so let us get this right,,, Cryptoad Feb 2015 #298

Nope billhicks76 Feb 2015 #304

Facts,,,, that's funny Cryptoad Feb 2015 #309

You're So Diligent billhicks76 Feb 2015 #313

I bet not as proud as Papa Paul is of you. Cryptoad Feb 2015 #314

Wow That Was Quick billhicks76 Feb 2015 #315

knr Douglas Carpenter Feb 2015 #295

This thread is still delightful. Autumn Feb 2015 #299

Yes It Is... WillyT Feb 2015 #302

Tee-Hee... cui bono Feb 2015 #318

NSA Trolls Taking Over This Thread billhicks76 Feb 2015 #316

There haven't been mods for years now.. Fumesucker Feb 2015 #322

Yeah I Know billhicks76 Feb 2015 #324

Not bad for a failed attorney and one-time producer of low-grade gay porn Blue_Tires Feb 2015 #321

Wow, you came back days later just to say that? cui bono Feb 2015 #323