General Discussion
In reply to the discussion: "I won't vote for Hillary" *cough* *cough* .... bullshit [View all]TheKentuckian
(25,029 posts)How? Give you no other alternative after enough trying to attract TeaPubliKlans and failing there will be but one avenue to seek relief. "Pragmatism" will be strongly prevailed upon and tested, I suspect for many that pitch that line use it for weak ass cover to paper over they are getting what they want and are in little risk of having to actually support liberal pols or policies or defend why they didn't.
I would see them brought to the test, as the OP "gets" that what is brashly stated when shit is speculation can often act entirely different in the heat of the moment.
I think there are some evolved Reaganites who aren't a bunch of crazed bigots, even some "upwardly mobile" people of color that are pretty protective of the class privileges they had to work perhaps a lot harder than others to obtain and aren't too keen on any socialism. Another variation of the "we built that Democrats". The system is good because they have been rewarded.
The Turd Way makes no secret of being on an assimilation agenda, it is an ideology and people adhere to it. Their solidarity is without substance and some, particularly among those who aren't considered vermin on sight will slink across the aisle if any actual threat to the status quo was on that general ballot just as they have before.
I'd see them drawn out.
Folks want the Democratic party for SOMETHING(S) the TeaPubliKlans won't provide but something corporate owned, anti Bill of Rights, warmongering can still provide or are otherwise here to assimilate, I'd see them denied come hell and high water until the fakes give up and the real ones a narrower path forward or none at all.
Power only surrenders even an inch when it has no other choice, I do not intend to continue to make the choice easy or allowing others who claim to share ambitions to do so either. I figure three cycles will break those who prove over and over that they are easily dictated to by threats and crisis, maybe four.
It is unfortunate but otherwise folks will keep up the preemptive surrender shit until Kingdom Come and probably go too because no matter what the other guy is going to be worse no matter how clownish and absurd they have to be to maintain separation.
We will never ever be able to demand what we need with a solid majority of the party that is had at hello and a general population programmed to believe the range of ideas and viable policy to be the minuscule and ever shrinking spectrum we see now.
No fantasies of taking down Mount Olympus and no pretending punching down will make right the world but rather taking away the hedge/cop-out that dictates this bizarre rolling and apparently eternal surrender and to do that the only way is to take the medicine right with the patients, even some of the brunt.
Otherwise the general direction of change is bad to worse.