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NavyDem

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13. I think it's very possible that when it goes to CM Manning will not be facing all 22 charges.

Fri Dec 23, 2011, 04:42 AM

Dec 2011

I'd have to look up the charge sheet, and then compare it to the evidence that has been reported to see what charges of the 22 will likely see the CM. I do keep in mind that the Article 32 does not prove the validity of the evidence, only that there is evidence that the Government will present.

The Government has said that they will not persue the death penalty, and I thought originally he would be looking at 52 years (earlier reports, not recent). Over the last couple of days, it's been reported 30 years to life depending on what charges stick. The aiding the enemy charge would obviously be the most devastating in terms of incarceration, but all of the lesser charges could also add up.

My theory on the whistleblower defense, is that it will not be employed because there are procedures in place that were not followed and it would not be prudent to try.

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Help Bradley Manning by offering words of support in the Washington Post comments section. [View all] go west young man Dec 2011 OP

In what way does this action help him? jberryhill Dec 2011 #1

It's called support. Moral as well as visual for the rest of the world to see. go west young man Dec 2011 #5

Not mocking at all jberryhill Dec 2011 #20

Public support always helps, and informing others of the facts rather than allowing only the Gov.'s sabrina 1 Dec 2011 #6

While I support him because I think the government needs to be more honest, Lunabelle Dec 2011 #2

You mean like Ellsberg? Smarmie Doofus Dec 2011 #3

I don't know who that is but I'll google it to see what I come up with Lunabelle Dec 2011 #4

That's probably true. I wish that like Ellsberg he was being tried in a civilian court. I sabrina 1 Dec 2011 #7

I've been following the Article 32 hearing NavyDem Dec 2011 #8

I know. At first I thought that might be a mistake, not to say he was not very stressed, as he said sabrina 1 Dec 2011 #12

I think it's very possible that when it goes to CM Manning will not be facing all 22 charges. NavyDem Dec 2011 #13

Good point, regarding the whistle blower charge. sabrina 1 Dec 2011 #16

The article 32 hearing is the pre-trial, so that portion is over. NavyDem Dec 2011 #18

Thanks, so we'll probably know by January. sabrina 1 Dec 2011 #19

Hunh? Don't you mean he "allegedly chose to break the law"? - n/t coalition_unwilling Dec 2011 #9

No, I'm not the government so I dont have to say allegedly.n/t Lunabelle Dec 2011 #14

The thing is, it's not really law and order if the rule of law only applies EFerrari Dec 2011 #10

Hello! Have you read Greenwald's new book? Luminous Animal Dec 2011 #11

I haven't read it but his FAIR speech was outstanding. EFerrari Dec 2011 #24

Just because Bush/Cheney and other rich fucks get away with crap because they have power we don't Lunabelle Dec 2011 #15

Bush was a CIC, so not just another rich person in this case. sabrina 1 Dec 2011 #17

Maybe so but the double standard and obvious injustice exists. go west young man Dec 2011 #22

No one is arguing that no one should ever be prosecuted for crimes. EFerrari Dec 2011 #23

K&R (nt) T S Justly Dec 2011 #21

Remember Nuremburg? dougolat Dec 2011 #25