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elias49

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25. The imperialist West. You forgot the key word IMO. nt

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US, Ukraine and Russia: What Went Wrong? [View all] eridani Feb 2015 OP

Not hard to figure that out. The neocons were over there instigating riots in order to sabrina 1 Feb 2015 #1

K & R elias49 Feb 2015 #2

I'm thinking that whomever the next president is, they will adopt a different approach dissentient Feb 2015 #3

Getting ready to be called a Putinista in 3...2...1... Xolodno Feb 2015 #4

Just FYI, the 5 billion argument has long been refuted as a bald faced lie. Tommy_Carcetti Feb 2015 #30

the irony is "the putinistas" have earned their monikers pushing his propaganda so diligently. Cha Feb 2015 #33

Is Ukraine's sovereignty more limited because Russia says so? pampango Feb 2015 #5

Sovereignty is taken, not given. bemildred Feb 2015 #6

That has a neocon, 'might makes right' ring to it that republicans would be comfortable with. pampango Feb 2015 #9

I'm saying if you are going to go to war, you better be prepared and know what you are about. bemildred Feb 2015 #11

What if the separatists started the war? I agree with you that Kiev was/is not prepared for war. pampango Feb 2015 #14

We didn't have to be involved at all, and everybody would be better off if we had not. bemildred Feb 2015 #17

I agree that if the US, EU and Russia had not gotten involved, Ukraine would be better off. pampango Feb 2015 #22

I've been saying that for a year and a half now. bemildred Feb 2015 #29

You forgot Vietnam. GP6971 Feb 2015 #26

A Ukrainian in Ukraine is 3/5 of a person. Igel Feb 2015 #7

Well said.... Adrahil Feb 2015 #16

That much spin makes me dizzy FLPanhandle Feb 2015 #8

Vassal state of Russia or vassal state of NATO (ie the West)? elias49 Feb 2015 #10

Why does Ukraine have to be a vassal state? Does Greece? pampango Feb 2015 #12

Too many people, not enough 'stuff' to go around? elias49 Feb 2015 #13

Does that apply to Greece also? How about every other poor country in the world? n/t pampango Feb 2015 #15

Sure it does. nt elias49 Feb 2015 #18

So poor countries are destined to be vassal states? Don't tell that to Cuba and Venezuela. pampango Feb 2015 #23

It's not acceptable. It's the new reality I'm afraid. nt elias49 Feb 2015 #24

If they cannot stand on their own... Adrahil Feb 2015 #19

I don't think it's surprising. elias49 Feb 2015 #20

That may be true, however.... Adrahil Feb 2015 #21

The imperialist West. You forgot the key word IMO. nt elias49 Feb 2015 #25

The destruction of what was 'The country of Ukraine' is ALL Putin the invaders fault. Sunlei Feb 2015 #27

This message was self-deleted by its author CJCRANE Feb 2015 #32

Ah, Putin is DEFENDING Ukraine by selflessly sending in Russian troops. Nye Bevan Feb 2015 #28

What went wrong? A throwback to the Cold War days was allowed back into power. randome Feb 2015 #31

No, don't you get it.. nothing is putin's fault.. "it's all the WEST's!!!!!1111" Cha Feb 2015 #34

It must be that calm, psychopathic gaze of his that allows some DUers to see into his soul. randome Feb 2015 #35

That's got to be it.. Some can see it and others just can't come up with it.. lol Cha Feb 2015 #36

I think you meant to say, Lots of psuedohistory in that opinion piece. Tommy_Carcetti Feb 2015 #37

What does it mean when US State Dept. vocally supports rioters cprise Feb 2015 #38

If you think Yanukovych and Berkut didn't become aggressive towards protestors until late Jan. 2014 Tommy_Carcetti Feb 2015 #40

He and Hillary hired a known neocon named Victoria Nuland to serve in the state department betterdemsonly Feb 2015 #39