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hughee99

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59. I'll admit I find an odd irony in people suggesting that respect must be earned...

Fri Jan 9, 2015, 03:29 PM

Jan 2015

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referring to police officers, given that there have been a bunch of threads talking about how "disrespectful" the NYPD cops were of the mayor.

Please don't read this as an endorsement of the cops actions, I just find it interesting to see the general trend jump from "the office deserves respect" to "respect must be earned" based essentially on how one wants to argue the politics of a situation.

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A uniform is just an outfit. It does NOT “deserve respect”. [View all] riqster Jan 2015 OP

word RedCappedBandit Jan 2015 #1

Thank you. riqster Jan 2015 #12

spot on! napkinz Jan 2015 #2

You find the best cartoons. riqster Jan 2015 #4

No respect for authority TNNurse Jan 2015 #13

I said once to my old boss you have to earn respect, not demand it. B Calm Jan 2015 #3

Amazing how pissed off people can get when you say that, innit? riqster Jan 2015 #10

My Favorite is... H. Cromwell Jan 2015 #36

Stealing. riqster Jan 2015 #52

Excellent OP, riqster - as always. BlueCaliDem Jan 2015 #5

Thanks. riqster Jan 2015 #6

A uniform does not 'deserve' respect. SamKnause Jan 2015 #7

Indeed, those who "expect" it rarely seem worthy of it. riqster Jan 2015 #9

Nailed it. Pacifist Patriot Jan 2015 #8

Thank you. riqster Jan 2015 #11

Agreed. But then one must also not demand certain behavior just because someone is wearing one joeglow3 Jan 2015 #14

On or off the clock means little. When you suit up, you are representing your organization. riqster Jan 2015 #22

Just like teachers disrespecting their governor? joeglow3 Jan 2015 #24

Again, respect is an individually-earned quality. riqster Jan 2015 #26

I agree. And free speech lets each party make that determination. joeglow3 Jan 2015 #28

That is a valid point, but not germane to the OP. riqster Jan 2015 #30

K&R.... daleanime Jan 2015 #15

I would say the uniform conveys a default of implied respect. JayhawkSD Jan 2015 #16

Fair enough. riqster Jan 2015 #18

Theoretically, others in that uniform who have earned respect jeff47 Jan 2015 #35

Uniforms are deserving of respect Amimnoch Jan 2015 #17

Still comes down to the person wearing it. riqster Jan 2015 #19

The people Augiedog Jan 2015 #20

Perfectly put! riqster Jan 2015 #21

Right on, Augie! SnowCritter Jan 2015 #23

Well said, sir. Thank you n/t sarge43 Jan 2015 #25

bravo! well said. SummerSnow Jan 2015 #27

"A uniform is just an outfit. It does NOT “deserve respect”." George II Jan 2015 #29

Completely agree. riqster Jan 2015 #31

It's a metaphor, or metonymy treestar Jan 2015 #32

What they mean by "respect the uniform" is "respect everyone who wears the uniform". riqster Jan 2015 #33

I don't think they mean that treestar Jan 2015 #34

On the contrary. When I was an enlisted man in the Army, the adage was Jack Rabbit Jan 2015 #37

Ceremonial gestures do not always indicate one's attitudes. riqster Jan 2015 #38

J. Rabbit is right vis-a-vis the military sarge43 Jan 2015 #50

Interesting. Thanks. riqster Jan 2015 #53

That is the reason for the disconnect on both sides 4Q2u2 Jan 2015 #39

Thought-provoking post. riqster Jan 2015 #41

That is what is needed 4Q2u2 Jan 2015 #49

k and r for this simple truth. niyad Jan 2015 #40

Thanks. riqster Jan 2015 #42

Don't forget.... AlbertCat Jan 2015 #43

Indeed. Same goes for suits, lab coats, etc. riqster Jan 2015 #47

I am one of those very weird people who don't give a damn about uniforms, or titles, or niyad Jan 2015 #44

Nor I. riqster Jan 2015 #51

On average many uniforms represent volunteering for more risk than ordinary people. One_Life_To_Give Jan 2015 #45

The uniform is a symbol that the wearer must live up to. riqster Jan 2015 #48

Fuck yes. blackspade Jan 2015 #46

A flag is just a piece of cloth... FBaggins Jan 2015 #54

I respect your point of view. riqster Jan 2015 #56

"you don't get to wait until the cop has individually earned your respect before granting it. " RedCappedBandit Jan 2015 #57

RESPECT is EARNED NEVER GIVEN it does not matter if they wear a uniform or hold an elected office ChosenUnWisely Jan 2015 #55

S'truth. riqster Jan 2015 #58

I'll admit I find an odd irony in people suggesting that respect must be earned... hughee99 Jan 2015 #59