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Response to J_J_ (Original post)

Why do you ignorant people want jobs in America?!?! PeteSelman Jan 2015 #1
when he disappoints, its massive. roguevalley Jan 2015 #33
Kick.... daleanime Jan 2015 #2
"Don't fight the last war. You already have." What war was that? NAFTA? Autumn Jan 2015 #3
Insulting, isn't it. And this "trade" deal has a LOT more to it than imagined worker and job djean111 Jan 2015 #8
+100 NewDeal_Dem Jan 2015 #18
He should educate us instead of calling us ignorant. Let us see what's in it Autumn Jan 2015 #54
I thought the same thing. Curmudgeoness Jan 2015 #63
The Constitution gives our Congress, that is all future Congreses, the authority JDPriestly Jan 2015 #76
We NEED HILLARY! ONLY SHE CAN IMPOVERISH OUR GREAT NATION PROPERLY! Katashi_itto Jan 2015 #4
. Autumn Jan 2015 #5
+100 NewDeal_Dem Jan 2015 #15
Yeah, And ALL HER Ties To Wall Street... ChiciB1 Jan 2015 #81
+10000 JDPriestly Jan 2015 #105
Here's a Washington Post article on Obama's comments... PoliticAverse Jan 2015 #6
Well, he's made that statement before, about being willing to defy Democrats. sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #9
+ The Whole Thing Octafish Jan 2015 #22
He'll be defying republicans (a majority oppose TPP) more than Democrats (60% support it). pampango Jan 2015 #40
If 60% of Democrats support the TPP, Maedhros Jan 2015 #56
I suspect even if both had not been signed that it would only have slowed the decline a bit but it cstanleytech Jan 2015 #68
The majority of "Democrats are woefully ignorant" because they do not agree with you. Ouch! pampango Jan 2015 #75
Just because a large percentage of Dems support it, don't make it right. lark Jan 2015 #86
Your statement about Europe is not correct. JDPriestly Jan 2015 #108
Posters such as Papango care nothing for any of what you've posted. Maedhros Jan 2015 #112
If not "woefully" ignorant, then willfully so. Maedhros Jan 2015 #111
60% is a meaningless number without context Cosmic Kitten Jan 2015 #121
That seems in line with how the system now works, doesn't it? sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #78
The Republicans don't support it because THEY DON'T SUPPORT ANYTHING THE PRESIDENT DOES. nm rhett o rick Jan 2015 #131
... treestar Jan 2015 #19
Thanks for the details, treestar. freshwest Jan 2015 #26
Happy New Year freshwest! treestar Jan 2015 #114
Same to you, treestar. Many changes this year. freshwest Jan 2015 #130
He needs to explain how it's different than NAFTA. When NAFTA was rammed thru rhett o rick Jan 2015 #45
1 through 10 all need proof and if Obama really thought any of them true treestar Jan 2015 #113
You're arguing in vain, treestar YoungDemCA Jan 2015 #126
So do you support the TPP? Or will you even commit? At least treestar will debate while rhett o rick Jan 2015 #128
A lot of people have looked at parts of the TPP and written about the damage that will be done. rhett o rick Jan 2015 #127
By the way I respect you for at least trying to debate this issue. No one else who supports the TPP rhett o rick Jan 2015 #129
He's either drinking the kool-aid lark Jan 2015 #79
What Obama said quoted from WaPo Article: KoKo Jan 2015 #35
Words Fail Me Demeter Jan 2015 #38
I think 'traitor' is the word you're looking for FiveGoodMen Jan 2015 #71
Is this Free Republic? YoungDemCA Jan 2015 #124
He is Lucy with the football. Go ahead Charlie Brown, this time we are telling the truth. nm rhett o rick Jan 2015 #49
Benefits for whom? Guess I will stay "ignorant" mmonk Jan 2015 #7
The American workers ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2015 #65
Yeah, now we compete with anyone in the world... kentuck Jan 2015 #107
Actually ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2015 #135
maybe it benefits the foreign slave labor? fbc Jan 2015 #73
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Do you have a more favorable Aerows Jan 2015 #80
kick 840high Jan 2015 #132
Now you did it Autumn Jan 2015 #134
This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Jan 2015 #140
Given that this thing has been enlightenment Jan 2015 #11
Exactly. Let us see the proposal. progressoid Jan 2015 #28
exactl;y if we are ignorant of the proposal it is only because you have shrouded it hollysmom Jan 2015 #36
AAAaaaarrrrgggghhhh! Populist_Prole Jan 2015 #12
+100 NewDeal_Dem Jan 2015 #14
'what else can they say at this point? "Fuck you, you're getting this"?' FiveGoodMen Jan 2015 #74
so tell us what's in the trade deal obama, maybe we wouldn't be so ignorant if we knew what was NewDeal_Dem Jan 2015 #13
Point! a palpable hit, to go all Wm. Shakespeare Demeter Jan 2015 #39
Liar for the 1%ers. SamKnause Jan 2015 #16
Do you think he's purposely doing that? treestar Jan 2015 #17
Are you putting words in someone's mouth? mmonk Jan 2015 #20
The OP did that regarding Obama. treestar Jan 2015 #21
I would agree he is worried. mmonk Jan 2015 #30
I see him as believing the American economy is just about the 1%, Wall Street, Dow Jones, djean111 Jan 2015 #25
I respectfully disagree treestar Jan 2015 #115
With Obama aspirant Jan 2015 #117
Here's what he's doing. He's calling those who oppose it 'ignorant'. Here's how he can sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #27
I thought aspirant Jan 2015 #118
If it's so great, he could release the proposed agreement for all to see. progressoid Jan 2015 #32
It is not just suspicion. Secrecy is inherently undemocratic. salib Jan 2015 #64
You are right, though it can't be secret in the end treestar Jan 2015 #116
Insulting AND condescending. A twofer. SammyWinstonJack Jan 2015 #23
Ignorant of the benefits? How about ignorant of the specifics! hughee99 Jan 2015 #24
Sorry, no can do. You see, we're ignorant and wouldn't understand Buns_of_Fire Jan 2015 #41
Exactly. Teach us ignorant peons just how beneficial this agreement will be. rhett o rick Jan 2015 #62
Please explain to me again. ... 99Forever Jan 2015 #29
Why does it have to be in secret? Lifelong Protester Jan 2015 #31
Probably for the same reason the climate agreement with China, the diplomatic agreement with Cuba, pampango Jan 2015 #46
"Submitted for ratification" aspirant Jan 2015 #122
People who have seen their jobs moved to China are not ignorant of anything. Vinca Jan 2015 #34
what jobs moved to china in the past 8-10 years? Sunlei Jan 2015 #43
If they said India, would it have made any difference to you? n/t hughee99 Jan 2015 #55
IT management jobs you mean or businesses that offer customer service(by phone)? Sunlei Jan 2015 #66
The post you replied to (not mine) mentioned jobs offshored to China, hughee99 Jan 2015 #72
No, I agree with what President O said about 'offshoring' in that article. Sunlei Jan 2015 #83
Yes, and while the president is right that "that horse is out of the barn" on low wage labor, hughee99 Jan 2015 #102
Is that Aerows Jan 2015 #82
discussion. I read the article and noted Pres. Os audience for the 'meeting'. Sunlei Jan 2015 #87
He's going to need folks Aerows Jan 2015 #91
It still may suck as the Corps have owned the USA forever & plenty of Politicians lie to Pres. O. Sunlei Jan 2015 #95
Either President Obama is the most brilliant Aerows Jan 2015 #99
The correct question is . . . what jobs haven't? Vinca Jan 2015 #119
The "All or Nothing" people *are* ignorant of the benefits of trade. But it does make good anti-O Sunlei Jan 2015 #37
Weren't you one of the Aerows Jan 2015 #85
sorry, I don't understand what you meant Sunlei Jan 2015 #88
Yes, I get that. Aerows Jan 2015 #93
You're to kind, :P Sunlei Jan 2015 #96
Horseshit. Odin2005 Jan 2015 #143
Please proceed Mister president bahrbearian Jan 2015 #42
to long to answer, with a line or two "benefits of global trade" Sunlei Jan 2015 #50
My husband's grandfather had a cattle business that was destroyed by NAFTA. liberal_at_heart Jan 2015 #136
Um, I'll trust the AFL-CIO before him on trade policy. closeupready Jan 2015 #44
AFL CIO are not against this new trade agreement, they're working with the group. Heres a link Sunlei Jan 2015 #90
On the TPP: "the publicly available information is concerning for workers" PoliticAverse Jan 2015 #120
yes, it is "concerning for workers" that's why I think its a good thing both Unions are active stake Sunlei Jan 2015 #133
Okay. Fine then release the document so all of us can read it. And IF there are any benefits for jwirr Jan 2015 #47
To make it even more special he said it while sitting next to Jim McNerney pa28 Jan 2015 #48
I think by the last war he means NAFTA. former9thward Jan 2015 #51
Anything can be stopped Demeter Jan 2015 #97
Move on from the last war aspirant Jan 2015 #123
Sorry Mr. President, you are tragically wrong about TPP. Dont call me Shirley Jan 2015 #52
Yes he is and it's a damn shame. AtomicKitten Jan 2015 #57
the blue dogs are leaving big red turds behind... TPP is the biggest fuck you to workers whereisjustice Jan 2015 #53
Return to tariffs? Trillo Jan 2015 #58
Mr. President, we're not stupid. We ARE aware of the benefits of the TPP. Maedhros Jan 2015 #59
Absolutely. This monstronsity of corporate welfare is not about trade, & will not benefit Americans, Faryn Balyncd Jan 2015 #103
"Globalization won't be a bloodless process" and the corporations will need more of your's now TheKentuckian Jan 2015 #60
This message was self-deleted by its author Corruption Inc Jan 2015 #61
Would like to see Obama actually address Sen. Sanders 10 points against the TPP! EndElectoral Jan 2015 #67
The whole thing is secret, so if it is so beneficial why not explain that by showing the deal? Bluenorthwest Jan 2015 #69
And pensions were stolen as companies were bought, gutted out and e-mailed to China JDPriestly Jan 2015 #70
He did not call 'you' ignorant Sunlei Jan 2015 #77
If you think that calling anyone with Aerows Jan 2015 #89
It doesn't matter if Obama said that or not Jack Rabbit Jan 2015 #84
Sorry, Mr. President, but no sale. Brigid Jan 2015 #92
I defended Bill Clinton to the bitter end on NATA because I KNEW a democrat would defend us Autumn Jan 2015 #101
Me too, Autumn. To my everlasting shame, me too. hedda_foil Jan 2015 #138
That was pretty much the end Puglover Jan 2015 #144
Goldman Sachs' pet president gregcrawford Jan 2015 #94
Obama is just plain WRONG about America's readiness to enter into these trade agreements. JDPriestly Jan 2015 #98
You said Munificence Jan 2015 #139
So, Mr. President, we would be far sadoldgirl Jan 2015 #100
Well he's gone FULL 1%ER!!! DeSwiss Jan 2015 #104
They ALWAYS play the false choice game.... Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2015 #106
Let's remember, he's politically free now. Broward Jan 2015 #109
Don't think of it as "free to screw over the people who got him his current job" but rather hughee99 Jan 2015 #110
Well, the Democrats, when they come up one short for SomethingFishy Jan 2015 #125
For starters, what IS the exact quote? That would help. Hekate Jan 2015 #137
We gambled on him d_b Jan 2015 #141
Fuck you, too, Mr. President. Odin2005 Jan 2015 #142
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