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Five things white people should know about cultural appropriation [View all] gollygee Dec 2014 OP

Thanks for posting this. Eom elfin Dec 2014 #1

Because America really has no inherent culture, it is made up of immigrants after all, they have to borrow Fred Sanders Dec 2014 #2

America does have an inherent culture, and it mostly comes from England. kwassa Dec 2014 #118

"here first." Tsiyu Dec 2014 #169

You are right, to a degree. kwassa Dec 2014 #170

Criticism of the concept (just to add to the conversation) wyldwolf Dec 2014 #3

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Culture is something that can only be shared, never stolen ("Appropriated") Taitertots Dec 2014 #4

Oh, I've got a few more!!! MADem Dec 2014 #5

I've lived in a very diverse areas my entire adult life... Kalidurga Dec 2014 #6

Damn Skippy! MrScorpio Dec 2014 #7

... napkinz Dec 2014 #46

He shoots, he scores! Major Hogwash Dec 2014 #86

This is a baseball fan in Cleveland oberliner Dec 2014 #99

Yeah? gollygee Dec 2014 #107

Was just providing the context for the photo oberliner Dec 2014 #111

This is not appropriation..... blackspade Dec 2014 #113

~THIS!~ yuiyoshida Dec 2014 #131

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Fine line between 'do whatever you want' and grossly insulting people. ismnotwasm Dec 2014 #9

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What immediately comes to mind ismnotwasm Dec 2014 #11

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Long nail is a silly example. ismnotwasm Dec 2014 #14

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Hmmm ismnotwasm Dec 2014 #17

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Go to hell? ismnotwasm Dec 2014 #20

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I see. ismnotwasm Dec 2014 #22

MIRT has thankfully been busy BumRushDaShow Dec 2014 #23

At least he's kicking the thread ismnotwasm Dec 2014 #24

True BumRushDaShow Dec 2014 #25

Heh! ismnotwasm Dec 2014 #32

Must have been a nervous reaction. Major Hogwash Dec 2014 #88

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Good. ismnotwasm Dec 2014 #27

She won't need to alert. jen63 Dec 2014 #29

Yes, and whathehell Dec 2014 #79

Blackface was a kind of mockery and very offensive. whathehell Dec 2014 #80

Blackface isn't over gollygee Dec 2014 #102

And to illustrate from just last year BumRushDaShow Dec 2014 #106

Where does blackface still appear?..I saw a clip of it in Australian TV a few years ago whathehell Dec 2014 #110

google "black pete netherlands". christmas tradition that is now elehhhhna Dec 2014 #143

In Iran for Now Ruz they have a similar character. MADem Dec 2014 #144

how old is that tradition, just curious elehhhhna Dec 2014 #158

Well, it has a Zoroastrian bent--6th Century, thereabouts. MADem Dec 2014 #164

Okay. nt whathehell Dec 2014 #165

Open-minded cultures and people have a long history of celebrating other cultures bhikkhu Dec 2014 #13

What needs to be read and understood by those who just don't 'get' it...... marble falls Dec 2014 #15

by this defintion, we gals should be offended by drag queens Skittles Dec 2014 #85

Not at all. marble falls Dec 2014 #97

So blues based metal is an insult? blackspade Dec 2014 #114

. helpmetohelpyou Dec 2014 #18

But we white people have to be true to our own cultural ethos, which is ... dawg Dec 2014 #28

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You are claiming "Reverse Racism"?? ismnotwasm Dec 2014 #40

If a white person said they were offended by a black person in a Viking costume ... dawg Dec 2014 #41

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OMG. My precious Nordic culture has been defiled. dawg Dec 2014 #49

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Vikings didn't have horned helmets. blackspade Dec 2014 #115

Indeed, you are correct. dawg Dec 2014 #116

And you definitely didn't want a horn on the side of the helmet that would dirct the strike... blackspade Dec 2014 #120

The ignorant will appropriate any culture item or style hootinholler Dec 2014 #30

I think that's "Tilted" Kilt, Hoot. dawg Dec 2014 #35

You're correct, my memory is faulty hootinholler Dec 2014 #56

I suspect gladium et scutum Dec 2014 #65

Probably so hootinholler Dec 2014 #68

Good point. marble falls Dec 2014 #74

Plus the fact that so many black artists often don't get the credit--or the financial tblue37 Dec 2014 #31

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I thought you were finished here? ismnotwasm Dec 2014 #36

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I can understand why some people in some minority cultures don't like it. aikoaiko Dec 2014 #33

Someone actually stole specific riffs and songs? dawg Dec 2014 #37

Yes that's what I was thinking of. aikoaiko Dec 2014 #39

Nicely done! Tom Ripley Dec 2014 #66

In those cases, though, it's not someone stealing from "a culture", it's someone stealing hughee99 Dec 2014 #43

It's not about 'stealing' as it is disrespect. ismnotwasm Dec 2014 #44

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What's interesting to add BumRushDaShow Dec 2014 #55

That is interesting ismnotwasm Dec 2014 #62

Very true description BumRushDaShow Dec 2014 #63

And even the early Blues was a sort of cultural melding between racial groups. cemaphonic Dec 2014 #93

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I remember when "Holiday" by Madonna came out. It was only played on the black/R&B stations Number23 Dec 2014 #71

Yup and I might even add BumRushDaShow Dec 2014 #98

No matter what you do you'll offend someone, so do whatever you want. ZombieHorde Dec 2014 #45

Your response offends me. Dr. Strange Dec 2014 #64

Nooooooooo! ZombieHorde Dec 2014 #95

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Agree. lumberjack_jeff Dec 2014 #133

Funny! nt ZombieHorde Dec 2014 #162

Go around the world.... RandySF Dec 2014 #51

Culture doesn't "belong" to anyone. True Blue Door Dec 2014 #52

I guess that IMITATION IS THE SINCEREST FORM OF FLATTERY is out the window, then. JEFF9K Dec 2014 #53

Try reading the article. ismnotwasm Dec 2014 #54

I DID read the article ... JEFF9K Dec 2014 #57

Oh dear ismnotwasm Dec 2014 #60

My grandson in mostly Native America and white but there is a black ancestor. He saw my genealogy jwirr Dec 2014 #58

Okay. So, what's the upshot? Iggy Azalea should only sing "Tie Me Kangaroo Down, Sport"? Comrade Grumpy Dec 2014 #59

Yes. She is only allowed to rap the classics of Rolf Harris. kwassa Dec 2014 #69

Kwassa, you know that Rolf Harris is in some MAJOR deep caca, don't you?? Number23 Dec 2014 #73

I do indeed. kwassa Dec 2014 #75

Apparently he played with his didgeridoo in A minor (nt) Nye Bevan Dec 2014 #125

Here are the results of the alert on your post: CaliforniaPeggy Dec 2014 #148

I was juror #2 and voted to hide the post: played with it in "A minor." John1956PA Dec 2014 #149

OK, and that is your right. CaliforniaPeggy Dec 2014 #150

OMG STOP IT Skittles Dec 2014 #83

I like Valerie June. Comrade Grumpy Dec 2014 #61

sarah palin made a point of wearing a Star of David during several Cerridwen Dec 2014 #67

Palin is a Zionist Boreal Dec 2014 #155

What about it movies and on TV madville Dec 2014 #70

I've got a malibu's most wanted tale... rppper Dec 2014 #141

K&R There are a slew of interesting articles in the side nav of this piece that are great reads too Number23 Dec 2014 #72

I am amazed by how many in this thread don't understand culture or how it works. kwassa Dec 2014 #119

I concur (nt) Nye Bevan Dec 2014 #126

I don't really find corn rows attractive... NaturalHigh Dec 2014 #76

Only if you entirely ignore history and context gollygee Dec 2014 #77

Yes, corn rows are so historically significant. NaturalHigh Dec 2014 #87

There is history and relevance to how African American women wear their hair and why gollygee Dec 2014 #89

This whole thread has been absolutely revolting. And I don't mean you for starting it Number23 Dec 2014 #90

I'm not sure why this pushes buttons like it does gollygee Dec 2014 #92

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It has to do with our whole society gollygee Dec 2014 #104

I find it's not the corn rows I find offensive - hedgehog Dec 2014 #140

The writer is very vague when it comes to defining cultural theft Vattel Dec 2014 #78

I'm calling BS on it too Skittles Dec 2014 #81

of course Skittles Dec 2014 #84

I'm split on this. chrisa Dec 2014 #82

If you're not white, you shouldn't ever play a guitar I guess... cherokeeprogressive Dec 2014 #91

Except that the earliest forms came from the mother continent BumRushDaShow Dec 2014 #134

The banjo came here from Africa too. arcane1 Dec 2014 #142

And believe it or not BumRushDaShow Dec 2014 #151

... Zorra Dec 2014 #94

Then there are those who "appropriate" the Jews. Behind the Aegis Dec 2014 #96

Sorry, no oberliner Dec 2014 #100

Such a revealing thread rbrnmw Dec 2014 #108

I was first made aware of "cultural appropriation" about 25 years ago Orrex Dec 2014 #109

Excellent analysis, Orrex, right on point. kwassa Dec 2014 #117

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As an anthropologist I have an issue with the concept of 'cultural appropriation' blackspade Dec 2014 #112

Good question. LWolf Dec 2014 #121

As an aside on the cornrows... BumRushDaShow Dec 2014 #122

Cultural appropriation doesn't work both ways; that is in the definition. kwassa Dec 2014 #152

Not to belabor the point but.... blackspade Dec 2014 #163

Hurray for common sense underahedgerow Dec 2014 #166

Does this concept only apply only to manners of dress and speech, or is food and architecture and Marr Dec 2014 #123

"Elvis wasn't the first to steal black music" Nye Bevan Dec 2014 #124

Elvis himself admitted that wyldwolf Dec 2014 #130

Elvis didn't steal first, but he still stole it. kwassa Dec 2014 #135

There is only one thing we need to know about this silly concept LittleBlue Dec 2014 #129

Actually, you're wrong. This is not a new concept, has been around for decades. kwassa Dec 2014 #137

The conecpt may have been around for decades... Ace Rothstein Dec 2014 #138

+1. LittleBlue Dec 2014 #139

No, it is a real and true phenomenon, and you don't wish to acknowledge it. kwassa Dec 2014 #146

I'm aware of what its proponents think it is LittleBlue Dec 2014 #153

So, being deeply in debt makes you smart? kwassa Dec 2014 #154

I give a fuck, and so do many others. kwassa Dec 2014 #145

+2 d_b Dec 2014 #147

Sorry d_b Dec 2014 #132

"cultural appropriation" shanti Dec 2014 #136

So if one culture does something LincolnsLeftHand Dec 2014 #156

Try reading the article or the thread or something. n/t gollygee Dec 2014 #157

The thread (at least some posts) LincolnsLeftHand Dec 2014 #159

Yes, Ayn Rand, it is your legal right to do a great number of irresponsible things. n/t gollygee Dec 2014 #160

Now I get that other post malaise Dec 2014 #161

African Americans have been more successful than any oppressed minority in history ... redgreenandblue Dec 2014 #167

All races must keep to their specifically designated racial activities! Kurska Dec 2014 #168