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gollygee

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Thu Dec 25, 2014, 09:13 AM Dec 2014

Five things white people should know about cultural appropriation [View all]

http://www.dailydot.com/opinion/5-things-white-people-cultural-appropriation/

If you’re Katy Perry, for example, you believe it’s A-OK to don corn rows and gel down your baby hair, put on some long fingernails and so-called sassy mannerisms with a “blaccent” and slang to portray how you believe certain black women behave and speak. But when you do it, as a white artist, you perpetuate a long legacy of white cultural theft—in addition to bypassing all the racist and misogynist insults those black women must contend with on a daily basis. That includes being called “ghetto” by white (and other) people, typecast as a welfare queen or otherwise told that your natural hairstyles and expressions are inferior and unwelcome. These are symptomatic of slavery and segregation in America and, yes, this really still happens every day. And it’s cultural appropriation.

As writer Tamara Winfrey Harris expertly notes over at Racialicious, it’s the oppression that causes the intense offense that many people—mainly white people—seek to explain away rather than critically question.

A Japanese teen wearing a t-shirt emblazoned with the logo of a big American company is not the same as Madonna sporting a bindi as part of her latest reinvention. The difference is history and power. Colonization has made Western Anglo culture supreme–powerful and coveted. It is understood in its diversity and nuance as other cultures can only hope to be. Ignorance of culture that is a burden to Asians, African, and indigenous peoples, is unknown to most European descendants or at least lacks the same negative impact.


And what makes cultural appropriation all the more infuriating for people of color rests on the fact that other people—white or not—can take off their costume and return to everyday life without the discrimination or stigma commonly associated with those cultural expressions. Just because you may find any elements of another culture or subculture to be awe-inspiring, or even have an odd fetish or fascination with it, using those expressions dispensibly is an insult that comes with a long history and trend of racial and ethnic discrimination and prejudice. It’s insulting to say the least.
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Thanks for posting this. Eom elfin Dec 2014 #1
Because America really has no inherent culture, it is made up of immigrants after all, they have to borrow Fred Sanders Dec 2014 #2
America does have an inherent culture, and it mostly comes from England. kwassa Dec 2014 #118
"here first." Tsiyu Dec 2014 #169
You are right, to a degree. kwassa Dec 2014 #170
Criticism of the concept (just to add to the conversation) wyldwolf Dec 2014 #3
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Culture is something that can only be shared, never stolen ("Appropriated") Taitertots Dec 2014 #4
Oh, I've got a few more!!! MADem Dec 2014 #5
I've lived in a very diverse areas my entire adult life... Kalidurga Dec 2014 #6
Damn Skippy! MrScorpio Dec 2014 #7
... napkinz Dec 2014 #46
He shoots, he scores! Major Hogwash Dec 2014 #86
This is a baseball fan in Cleveland oberliner Dec 2014 #99
Yeah? gollygee Dec 2014 #107
Was just providing the context for the photo oberliner Dec 2014 #111
This is not appropriation..... blackspade Dec 2014 #113
~THIS!~ yuiyoshida Dec 2014 #131
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Fine line between 'do whatever you want' and grossly insulting people. ismnotwasm Dec 2014 #9
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What immediately comes to mind ismnotwasm Dec 2014 #11
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Long nail is a silly example. ismnotwasm Dec 2014 #14
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Hmmm ismnotwasm Dec 2014 #17
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Go to hell? ismnotwasm Dec 2014 #20
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I see. ismnotwasm Dec 2014 #22
MIRT has thankfully been busy BumRushDaShow Dec 2014 #23
At least he's kicking the thread ismnotwasm Dec 2014 #24
True BumRushDaShow Dec 2014 #25
Heh! ismnotwasm Dec 2014 #32
Must have been a nervous reaction. Major Hogwash Dec 2014 #88
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Good. ismnotwasm Dec 2014 #27
She won't need to alert. jen63 Dec 2014 #29
Yes, and whathehell Dec 2014 #79
Blackface was a kind of mockery and very offensive. whathehell Dec 2014 #80
Blackface isn't over gollygee Dec 2014 #102
And to illustrate from just last year BumRushDaShow Dec 2014 #106
Where does blackface still appear?..I saw a clip of it in Australian TV a few years ago whathehell Dec 2014 #110
google "black pete netherlands". christmas tradition that is now elehhhhna Dec 2014 #143
In Iran for Now Ruz they have a similar character. MADem Dec 2014 #144
how old is that tradition, just curious elehhhhna Dec 2014 #158
Well, it has a Zoroastrian bent--6th Century, thereabouts. MADem Dec 2014 #164
Okay. nt whathehell Dec 2014 #165
Open-minded cultures and people have a long history of celebrating other cultures bhikkhu Dec 2014 #13
What needs to be read and understood by those who just don't 'get' it...... marble falls Dec 2014 #15
by this defintion, we gals should be offended by drag queens Skittles Dec 2014 #85
Not at all. marble falls Dec 2014 #97
So blues based metal is an insult? blackspade Dec 2014 #114
. helpmetohelpyou Dec 2014 #18
But we white people have to be true to our own cultural ethos, which is ... dawg Dec 2014 #28
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You are claiming "Reverse Racism"?? ismnotwasm Dec 2014 #40
If a white person said they were offended by a black person in a Viking costume ... dawg Dec 2014 #41
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OMG. My precious Nordic culture has been defiled. dawg Dec 2014 #49
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Vikings didn't have horned helmets. blackspade Dec 2014 #115
Indeed, you are correct. dawg Dec 2014 #116
And you definitely didn't want a horn on the side of the helmet that would dirct the strike... blackspade Dec 2014 #120
The ignorant will appropriate any culture item or style hootinholler Dec 2014 #30
I think that's "Tilted" Kilt, Hoot. dawg Dec 2014 #35
You're correct, my memory is faulty hootinholler Dec 2014 #56
I suspect gladium et scutum Dec 2014 #65
Probably so hootinholler Dec 2014 #68
Good point. marble falls Dec 2014 #74
Plus the fact that so many black artists often don't get the credit--or the financial tblue37 Dec 2014 #31
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I thought you were finished here? ismnotwasm Dec 2014 #36
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I can understand why some people in some minority cultures don't like it. aikoaiko Dec 2014 #33
Someone actually stole specific riffs and songs? dawg Dec 2014 #37
Yes that's what I was thinking of. aikoaiko Dec 2014 #39
Nicely done! Tom Ripley Dec 2014 #66
In those cases, though, it's not someone stealing from "a culture", it's someone stealing hughee99 Dec 2014 #43
It's not about 'stealing' as it is disrespect. ismnotwasm Dec 2014 #44
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What's interesting to add BumRushDaShow Dec 2014 #55
That is interesting ismnotwasm Dec 2014 #62
Very true description BumRushDaShow Dec 2014 #63
And even the early Blues was a sort of cultural melding between racial groups. cemaphonic Dec 2014 #93
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I remember when "Holiday" by Madonna came out. It was only played on the black/R&B stations Number23 Dec 2014 #71
Yup and I might even add BumRushDaShow Dec 2014 #98
No matter what you do you'll offend someone, so do whatever you want. ZombieHorde Dec 2014 #45
Your response offends me. Dr. Strange Dec 2014 #64
Nooooooooo! ZombieHorde Dec 2014 #95
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Agree. lumberjack_jeff Dec 2014 #133
Funny! nt ZombieHorde Dec 2014 #162
Go around the world.... RandySF Dec 2014 #51
Culture doesn't "belong" to anyone. True Blue Door Dec 2014 #52
I guess that IMITATION IS THE SINCEREST FORM OF FLATTERY is out the window, then. JEFF9K Dec 2014 #53
Try reading the article. ismnotwasm Dec 2014 #54
I DID read the article ... JEFF9K Dec 2014 #57
Oh dear ismnotwasm Dec 2014 #60
My grandson in mostly Native America and white but there is a black ancestor. He saw my genealogy jwirr Dec 2014 #58
Okay. So, what's the upshot? Iggy Azalea should only sing "Tie Me Kangaroo Down, Sport"? Comrade Grumpy Dec 2014 #59
Yes. She is only allowed to rap the classics of Rolf Harris. kwassa Dec 2014 #69
Kwassa, you know that Rolf Harris is in some MAJOR deep caca, don't you?? Number23 Dec 2014 #73
I do indeed. kwassa Dec 2014 #75
Apparently he played with his didgeridoo in A minor (nt) Nye Bevan Dec 2014 #125
Here are the results of the alert on your post: CaliforniaPeggy Dec 2014 #148
I was juror #2 and voted to hide the post: played with it in "A minor." John1956PA Dec 2014 #149
OK, and that is your right. CaliforniaPeggy Dec 2014 #150
OMG STOP IT Skittles Dec 2014 #83
I like Valerie June. Comrade Grumpy Dec 2014 #61
sarah palin made a point of wearing a Star of David during several Cerridwen Dec 2014 #67
Palin is a Zionist Boreal Dec 2014 #155
What about it movies and on TV madville Dec 2014 #70
I've got a malibu's most wanted tale... rppper Dec 2014 #141
K&R There are a slew of interesting articles in the side nav of this piece that are great reads too Number23 Dec 2014 #72
I am amazed by how many in this thread don't understand culture or how it works. kwassa Dec 2014 #119
I concur (nt) Nye Bevan Dec 2014 #126
I don't really find corn rows attractive... NaturalHigh Dec 2014 #76
Only if you entirely ignore history and context gollygee Dec 2014 #77
Yes, corn rows are so historically significant. NaturalHigh Dec 2014 #87
There is history and relevance to how African American women wear their hair and why gollygee Dec 2014 #89
This whole thread has been absolutely revolting. And I don't mean you for starting it Number23 Dec 2014 #90
I'm not sure why this pushes buttons like it does gollygee Dec 2014 #92
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It has to do with our whole society gollygee Dec 2014 #104
I find it's not the corn rows I find offensive - hedgehog Dec 2014 #140
The writer is very vague when it comes to defining cultural theft Vattel Dec 2014 #78
I'm calling BS on it too Skittles Dec 2014 #81
of course Skittles Dec 2014 #84
I'm split on this. chrisa Dec 2014 #82
If you're not white, you shouldn't ever play a guitar I guess... cherokeeprogressive Dec 2014 #91
Except that the earliest forms came from the mother continent BumRushDaShow Dec 2014 #134
The banjo came here from Africa too. arcane1 Dec 2014 #142
And believe it or not BumRushDaShow Dec 2014 #151
... Zorra Dec 2014 #94
Then there are those who "appropriate" the Jews. Behind the Aegis Dec 2014 #96
Sorry, no oberliner Dec 2014 #100
Such a revealing thread rbrnmw Dec 2014 #108
I was first made aware of "cultural appropriation" about 25 years ago Orrex Dec 2014 #109
Excellent analysis, Orrex, right on point. kwassa Dec 2014 #117
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As an anthropologist I have an issue with the concept of 'cultural appropriation' blackspade Dec 2014 #112
Good question. LWolf Dec 2014 #121
As an aside on the cornrows... BumRushDaShow Dec 2014 #122
Cultural appropriation doesn't work both ways; that is in the definition. kwassa Dec 2014 #152
Not to belabor the point but.... blackspade Dec 2014 #163
Hurray for common sense underahedgerow Dec 2014 #166
Does this concept only apply only to manners of dress and speech, or is food and architecture and Marr Dec 2014 #123
"Elvis wasn't the first to steal black music" Nye Bevan Dec 2014 #124
Elvis himself admitted that wyldwolf Dec 2014 #130
Elvis didn't steal first, but he still stole it. kwassa Dec 2014 #135
There is only one thing we need to know about this silly concept LittleBlue Dec 2014 #129
Actually, you're wrong. This is not a new concept, has been around for decades. kwassa Dec 2014 #137
The conecpt may have been around for decades... Ace Rothstein Dec 2014 #138
+1. LittleBlue Dec 2014 #139
No, it is a real and true phenomenon, and you don't wish to acknowledge it. kwassa Dec 2014 #146
I'm aware of what its proponents think it is LittleBlue Dec 2014 #153
So, being deeply in debt makes you smart? kwassa Dec 2014 #154
I give a fuck, and so do many others. kwassa Dec 2014 #145
+2 d_b Dec 2014 #147
Sorry d_b Dec 2014 #132
"cultural appropriation" shanti Dec 2014 #136
So if one culture does something LincolnsLeftHand Dec 2014 #156
Try reading the article or the thread or something. n/t gollygee Dec 2014 #157
The thread (at least some posts) LincolnsLeftHand Dec 2014 #159
Yes, Ayn Rand, it is your legal right to do a great number of irresponsible things. n/t gollygee Dec 2014 #160
Now I get that other post malaise Dec 2014 #161
African Americans have been more successful than any oppressed minority in history ... redgreenandblue Dec 2014 #167
All races must keep to their specifically designated racial activities! Kurska Dec 2014 #168
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