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18. Policeman are HUMAN and humans are flawed. They can act unconsciously,

Fri Dec 19, 2014, 04:38 PM

Dec 2014

including on unconscious biases. And some of them, like all humans, are capable of conscious evil.

What Obama said, if you would actually read it, is that we need to expose the biases so we can get rid of them -- not that they're okay.

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PBO press conference:"everyone has a bias" [View all] darkangel218 Dec 2014 OP

extrapolated, this is an affront to the whole civil rights movement in America. grasswire Dec 2014 #1

He said it right in the end. darkangel218 Dec 2014 #3

Are you assuming that he's condoning cops' biases by that statement? WorseBeforeBetter Dec 2014 #10

Well if that is what he said, he is wrong. Unless he means 'against inequality'. sabrina 1 Dec 2014 #16

Listen from 1:14 darkangel218 Dec 2014 #9

I did not hear the speech, but the statement that everyone is biased is the truth Bjorn Against Dec 2014 #2

Cops should not be allowed to be biased. darkangel218 Dec 2014 #4

Again I did not hear the remarks, but the cops that killed Garner were indeed biased Bjorn Against Dec 2014 #5

Then he shouldve said that. not end it that "we all carry biases" darkangel218 Dec 2014 #38

But we do all carry biases Bjorn Against Dec 2014 #40

Its the third post in which you keep saying the same thing. darkangel218 Dec 2014 #44

I never alerted on you, but you are putting words in his mouth Bjorn Against Dec 2014 #46

Don't you see? It's a discussion board, and by discussing the OP you 'silence' it arcane1 Dec 2014 #47

Accusing me of putting words in someone else's mouth is not civilized discussion. darkangel218 Dec 2014 #50

So were you uncivilized when you accused me of putting words in your mouth in post 41? Bjorn Against Dec 2014 #51

You started it, you said i put words in Obama's mouth, when i was quotting pwmom. darkangel218 Dec 2014 #54

I'm gonna tell mommy you started it!!!! Bjorn Against Dec 2014 #61

You accused me of being uncivil, when isYOU who STARTED THIS NONSENSE. darkangel218 Dec 2014 #62

I never accused you of being uncivil, but your all caps subject line may not look civil to others Bjorn Against Dec 2014 #67

it's a simple psychological truth about every human on the planet. WE ALL HOLD BIASES. KittyWampus Dec 2014 #76

Exactly SickOfTheOnePct Dec 2014 #82

It's in line with what organizations like the holocaust museum say. Everyone has biases. stevenleser Dec 2014 #6

Im sorry, but i dont get this. Understand what, that some people are racist?? darkangel218 Dec 2014 #7

Bias does not necessarily mean racial bias Bjorn Against Dec 2014 #11

And even if President Obama were speaking specifically of racial bias ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2014 #59

You're distorting what he said and taking it out of context. Please comment pnwmom Dec 2014 #13

He was talking about POLICE VIOLENCE, THAN SAID WE ALL CARRY BIASSES. darkangel218 Dec 2014 #17

He was talking about how to END police violence, and he said pnwmom Dec 2014 #21

Its an excuse for police discrimination. darkangel218 Dec 2014 #29

Its not "human nature" to kill people because of a bias. darkangel218 Dec 2014 #30

Fortunately, nobody is claiming that it is. arcane1 Dec 2014 #32

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. darkangel218 Dec 2014 #34

Fortunately, I'm not telling you anything of the sort n/t arcane1 Dec 2014 #35

But not everyone is entitled to their own facts Bjorn Against Dec 2014 #37

Copy and paste where did i say that. darkangel218 Dec 2014 #39

Here are the words you used to describe Obama's comment Bjorn Against Dec 2014 #42

Bingo!! lamp_shade Dec 2014 #79

Did Obama say it was human nature to kill because of bias? Bjorn Against Dec 2014 #33

Stop putting words in my mouth. darkangel218 Dec 2014 #41

Don't put words into Obama's mouth Bjorn Against Dec 2014 #45

I posted the video for everyone to see what potus said and pwnmom posted the exact words downthread. darkangel218 Dec 2014 #48

Oh really? Where exactly did I twist Obama's words? Bjorn Against Dec 2014 #49

You twisted my words, not Obama's. darkangel218 Dec 2014 #52

So you are putting words into pnwmom's mouth then Bjorn Against Dec 2014 #55

I didnt say she did, i quotted what she said. darkangel218 Dec 2014 #60

I can deal with it, but apparently you can't Bjorn Against Dec 2014 #63

Doing what youre doing is not "expressing your opinion". darkangel218 Dec 2014 #65

Yes, it is expressing my opinion Bjorn Against Dec 2014 #69

This message was self-deleted by its author darkangel218 Dec 2014 #68

Yes, you don't get it... SidDithers Dec 2014 #14

No, have biases. Not racist. stevenleser Dec 2014 #20

I'm not sure you understand how the word bias is being used el_bryanto Dec 2014 #23

+1 ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2014 #57

Cops should not be allowed to ACT out of bias. pnwmom Dec 2014 #24

Well said. nt el_bryanto Dec 2014 #56

Exactly! SickOfTheOnePct Dec 2014 #85

It's one thing to have a bias loyalsister Dec 2014 #88

It depends on what he meant and he certainly cannot speak for 'everyone'. There sabrina 1 Dec 2014 #19

He surely doesnt speak for me there either. darkangel218 Dec 2014 #31

Absolutely! elleng Dec 2014 #84

He wasn't excusing them for having a bias. But he did acknowledge that we all have them. pnwmom Dec 2014 #8

I dont feel comfortable with that. darkangel218 Dec 2014 #12

Policeman are HUMAN and humans are flawed. They can act unconsciously, pnwmom Dec 2014 #18

Thats a lame excuse, what he did there. darkangel218 Dec 2014 #15

... SidDithers Dec 2014 #22

So typical of you. darkangel218 Dec 2014 #25

Could say the same about you and this entire thread... SidDithers Dec 2014 #26

Bingo!! lamp_shade Dec 2014 #83

disagree Kali Dec 2014 #86

Sounds like you have a bias toward Sid BeyondGeography Dec 2014 #27

Bias towards disruption... WorseBeforeBetter Dec 2014 #28

Our local police chief talked about it that way, too loyalsister Dec 2014 #89

Everyone is biased. The question is not whether we are biased, pnwmom Dec 2014 #36

anyone who tells you they have no biases are lying to themselves and to you. we however can train La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2014 #43

Everyone has biases, the key is recognizing and not acting on those biases. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2014 #53

Perheps, but if someone has racial biases, they shouldnt be cops. darkangel218 Dec 2014 #58

There is a difference between having a racial bias and being a racist ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2014 #64

I would prefer that no one in law enforcement had an ounce of racism in them. darkangel218 Dec 2014 #70

Okay ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2014 #74

How about mpnitoring their ( the officer's) behaviour. language, choices they make, etc darkangel218 Dec 2014 #75

Sure they should not be allowed to be biased malaise Dec 2014 #66

Cops, judges, health providers, churches--all should not be allowed to be biased. panader0 Dec 2014 #71

He said we all carry biases. darkangel218 Dec 2014 #72

He's talking about this too. by Nicholas Kristof applegrove Dec 2014 #73

That's pretty common knowledge if you read anything in the way of anti-racism info gollygee Dec 2014 #77

Im not disputing that, its the context he said it in. darkangel218 Dec 2014 #78

Well the message is that it's natural for people to carry biases gollygee Dec 2014 #80

I see. Thank you for your reply. darkangel218 Dec 2014 #90

Again, everyone has biases to some extent or another gollygee Dec 2014 #91

Strictly speaking, President Obama is correct. Brigid Dec 2014 #81

"...really saddened me" lamp_shade Dec 2014 #87